TNA New Blood vs. Millionaires

[brm9893]

First off, I was huge fan of WCW's angle with this (and really wish there'd me more footage of this on YouTube). It gives an entire show structure, clearly draws the lines in the sand for faces/heels, allows for guys to be "put over," easily, and more.

Bear in mind that WCW's angle had the New Blood as the heels and the Millionaires Club as the faces (and a much smaller group). I once read that the angle was supposed to be the other way around, but I really doubt this. Russo was said to have wanted to do this angle a long time before he and Bischoff launched it - I'd imagine he's still a fan of it (and no, this is not a Russo trashing thread).

From what I'm gathering, here are the current battle lines if this rumored storyline is legit:

Millionaires (Old Guard)
Sting
Nash
Booker T
Sharmell
Angle
Team 3D

New Blood (Young Guns)
Jarrett
Styles
Karen Angle
Samoa Joe

Neutral
Rhino


One of the interesting elements of this angle will be how some of the stars choose sides if this becomes an angle that involves the entire roster. I'm thinking of guys like Abyss who have had moderate success. Also wonder if the Knockouts will take sides in this (they already have a credible face/heel division there).

 

[BigJeff]

I like this angle to except it should be old againest new and not based on pay. I would add BG to the old guard and the machine guns to the new. If it included the whole roster then you could have some of the younger guys as part of the old Guard.

Old Guard would include those that have "respect" for the old ways and have paid their dues.

New would be all the younger guys who think the old guys should go away.

I don't know if the angle should include the women. I can see an old vs new division there.

 

[Sparky]

First of all Big Jeff, that would be completly like like the old breed vs the new breed on ECW. at least this way it will have a different name. and it wouldnt work seeing TNA hasnt been around for long enough.

Basically what i think this is supposed to sound like is the ME'rs against the Mid Carders. this story line if true sound shit, Money doesnt determine how well you wrestle it is skill and that is how it will most likly end.

It will be a waste of time if they go through with this. having that many people in the one fued with such a small roster, will get boring straight away, there is no way people would care for it after three weeks max. they should make a few mini fueds out of it and focus on what would be more entertaining rather then what sounds like the worst storyline in excistance. especially if they make the faces win yet again just like every other time this storyline has been done.

Here is to this not happening.

 

[Worlds_Greatest_Booker]

this can be a fanstatic fued if it is done right and doesn't get ruined by the older wrestlers (i have a really big feeling that christian cage is starting to get way to big head as he is garanted a main event spot has very good pay and both cage and team 3D didn't have to go on the tour of the uk). but i've got a problem with TNA at the moment as they are re-using old storyline or are nicking ideas from WWE

 

[wwefan49]

I don't understand how Jeff Jarrett is considered New Blood. Yes he's been helping them but why?? He is an old school veteran. Also I think the new guys are acting like stubborn brats and the vets are kinda just commanding respect. The Guns totally dissed BG and Creed recently. AJ is going postal on Angle, and Booker keeps getting screwed by that dam Samoa Joe. Joe can't keep his temper in check. I think the stables will go like this.

Millionaire's Club

Kevin Nash- face Wants to teach Joe a lesson.
Sting- face Same as Nash but with AJ
Booker T- heel these 3 don't wanna lose their spots.
Kurt Angle- heel
Team 3D- heel
BG James- face Wants to teach the Guns respect.

New Blood

Samoa Joe- heel These 5 wanna prove thier the future.
AJ Styles- face
Chris Sabin- heel
Alex Shelley- heel
Matt Morgan- face
Jeff Jarrett- heel Wants to protect his investment.

Noone has to switch between face or heel. They have a common interest. Sting and Nash and BG wanna teach smartass punks like the new blood some respect. Booker, Angle, and Team 3D don't wanna lose their spots to young guys. Jarrett plays the owner role and wants his future stars to succeed and his older guys out. New Blood wanna prove why they are the future and the old timers are the past.

 

[schaeffershawn]

The only problem is were does a guy like Christian land, or Rhino, or for that matter Christopher Danniels if he ever stops this insulting run as curry man?

I can see abyss being with the new blood

 

[wwefan49]

The only problem is were does a guy like Christian land, or Rhino, or for that matter Christopher Danniels if he ever stops this insulting run as curry man?

I can see abyss being with the new blood

I heard plans of Cage,Rhino,and Abyss all being in the new blood. Although Rhino stated on Thursday he's neutral. I think Daniels should be Curry Man and Daniels. He excels with both. Curry Man isn't insulting its just not the preferred gimmick.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

What's sad is that TNA has no new ideas left. You would think for a new promotion they'd at least have one.

This angle would have worked in WCW were the people behind the show not so incompetent. They had millionaires, and more importantly they had stars. Lex Luger never lived up to his potential, but he was a star and a millionaire, same with Sting, Nash, Hall, Savage, Hogan etc.

TNA has wrestlers who were stars at some point (Sting & Nash) and wrestlers who never quite made it as superstars (Booker & Jarrett). They may well be millionaires. But this will really only highlight that they don't have much depth on their roster, and that most of the roster are former indy wrestlers.

On the flip side you then almost have TNA saying that they underpay talent. They have very few millionaires. And their current world champion Samoa Joe & former world champion A.J. Styles aren't millionaires.

This could work, but not in TNA.

 

[klunderbunker]

This angle could work, but I'm not sold on it. Like everyone has said, its been done. There's already a balance between these two groups. Do we really need a storyline about it? Very rarely do these company wide angles work. However, in this case it might help things a bit. TNA's biggest issue to me is that they feel everything has to tie in together somehow with little to no explanation. THis could be that explanation. Sting and Jarrett have been mystery enigmas lately. This could be the answer to what they've done. Still though, I can't really see this working long term, but its possibl I guess. Would be better than what's going on right now. As long as the term millionaires isn't used, it should be ok.

 

[Shocky]

As said, very rarely do these work out in the long run, and it does nothing but bury the veteran's that busted their asses to pave the way to spoiled uncaring new guys that haven't paid their dues yet.

Plus, as said also, the veterans are all coming off as faces right now anyway, just trying to pass their wisdom onto the next, ungrateful generation. As a fan, I'm rooting for the old guys immediately based upon that. The New Blood in this situation are rude, cocky assholes and I want to see them go down, but I'm sure teh smarky Impact Zone crowd sees it the other way. (As I said in the TNA fans thread, the Impact Zone fans are enough to make you forget about TNA).

It's a storyline that has been done, what, 3 times now in the last 8 years. WCW did, ECW did it last year at WM23, and now we're going to go through it again. Not exactly thrilled about this myself.

 

[Upgrayedd]

I really like this idea since I'm a huge fan of stables in wrestling especially when there are two big stables feuding with each other. I really liked the idea of the MC/NB in WCW and I think from April-June it worked out very well when everyone was on the same page. Hopefully, in TNA they can get everyone to work together and it can be entertaining and work out this time.

I think the groups will be seperated more like this:

MC (as the heels this time):
Sting
Booker T
Kevin Nash
Team 3D
Kurt Angle
Scott Steiner (hopefully)


NB:
Jeff Jarrett (even though he's not a real member of the New Blood, I think he'd work out awesome as a face this time)
Samoa Joe
AJ Styles
Matt Morgan
MCMG
Petey Williams

Neutral:
Christian Cage
Rhino
Beer Money
Eric Young
Shark Boy
Curry Man
Abyss
LAX

Feuds:

Sting vs. Samoa Joe
Kurt Angle vs. Jeff Jarrett
Booker T vs. AJ Styles
Kevin Nash vs. Matt Morgan
Team 3D vs. MCMG
Scott Steiner vs. Petey Williams

 

[FromTheSouth]

See, I love the idea, but I would tweak it a bit. I would have JJ be a bit of a tweener. He could involve himself on each side, doing whatever it takes to position himself as champ. He would be like Stone Cold during the alliance angle. Then in the end, when it's time to pay off the feud, have him go with the old guys because JJ is a heel through and through.

I agree that you don't have to turn people for the angle to work. Heels can still be heels, but the context is different. They would be putting their differences aside to keep their spot, because there is one common bond, money.

The angle just needs one big turn. Having JJ turn on the youngsters would be cool. Having angle join the youngsters would be just as cool.

Either way, something needs to shake it up, or else you get the WCW angle, or even worse the ECW originals angle.

 

[AngryGrandpa]

I didn't care for it in WCW and I don't care for it in TNA....I just wish the younger talent would feud and the older guys would just leave....I have so much respect but man..It's getting old watching the "weathered" wrestlers bury the ones with the bright futures...

Booker T..leave.... Dudleyz (PLEASE LEAVE)...Karen...(TAKE CARE OF YOUR KIDS)

I just don't want so many former talents in TNA...Why can't they just push what they had?

 

[T2KFreeker]

I only have two points to make on this whole situation;

One, this will work out well as long as they stay as far away from the WCW road for this. WCW had a great idea, and as usual, because of mismanagement and the loss of time and petty squabbles over who would and woouldn't do what, the whole thing fell apart. The best thing that happened to WCW out of that storyline is that Hulk Hogan got fired and put in his place where WCW was concerned.

Two, if it even comes close to resembling the magic of the WWE Invasion storyline, this will so suck and TNA may lose what fanbase they have over it. If you use it to really push the younger guys and really show off what they can do, then groovy. Please for the Love of God do not turn this into another reason to put Kurt Angle or Booker T over. Mind you, I really like those guys, but it really is past time for TNA's younger talent to shine. It's been beyond time for it. TNA promised those guys that the WWE talent coming in wouldn't eclipse the current talent that they had and I really think they lied on that one because I have seen Booker T and Kurt Angle get more television time than any other wrestler there on the roster in a long time.

 

[SpiralHands]

Im not sure about this angle, I mean it could be a great great angle, and while the angle similar to this in WCW I felt wasnt that great, doesnt mean that this onre will be bad. I think if it can be pulled off right a big angle like these could elevate TNA more, having said that having an angle that takes up so much wrestluing time and TV time could hurt the company. All in all I think if this angle is going to go ahead then it shoukld be interesting to say the least. Let hope it works and gives TNA that much needed boost right now.

 

[MisterRob]

I think so far, in my mind, this angle has begun to flop. I had interest in the idea at the very start, but last week's show in itself has made me not care for it at all. The Kevin Nash interview, the overdone garbage like Styles/Angle, the lights flickering out over and over, Jarrett's music playing for no reason. Feels like some little kids writing this show, not an experienced writer. I have a feeling this angle's going to be forgettable, just as bad as the Invasion Angle in WWE.

 

[brm9893]

I think so far, in my mind, this angle has begun to flop. I had interest in the idea at the very start, but last week's show in itself has made me not care for it at all. The Kevin Nash interview, the overdone garbage like Styles/Angle, the lights flickering out over and over, Jarrett's music playing for no reason. Feels like some little kids writing this show, not an experienced writer. I have a feeling this angle's going to be forgettable, just as bad as the Invasion Angle in WWE.

You're going to bury an angle before its even fully explained? Where's Gilberti when you need him?

This is a rare feud - a slow build. Instead of dropping all the pieces to the puzzle, it seems that everyone knows something that someone else doesn't - Nash eludes to things getting interesting. Sting already seems to know that Jarrett is against him. Joe came out ready with a weapon in hand. Its as if this is a shoot backstage brought forward (which it may be to a small extent).

Sting's second speech seemed to be taking shots at the IMPACT Zone smarks who will cheer the heels, only want spotfests, etc. So he's a face to a percentage of fans and a heel to others (wow - a pure tweener!)

Jarrett is defending Styles & Company to protect the future of TNA - they've acknowledged with vignettes that JJ started the company. Maybe they'll even show his power on screen now. If so, where does Cornette fit in all this?

Could this be a great feud to introduce Foley? Who's side does he choose?

Christian Cage has been left out of this so far. He could easily fit in either group. Could he be the classic "which side is he on" angle? He agrees with Sting but doesn't want to betray AJ?


Let's give this thing a chance and play along. I think we sometimes judge an angle so much we forget that these are STORIES to enjoy. Smile, kill your pessimism, and embrace the creativity. You can't tell me that WWE doesn't recycle their storylines. Gosh - how many times do we get to have a triple threat match headline a PPV because of a screwy #1 contendor angle? Smile and play along. Be a FAN.

 

[daltyV]

Let's give this thing a chance and play along. I think we sometimes judge an angle so much we forget that these are STORIES to enjoy. Smile, kill your pessimism, and embrace the creativity. You can't tell me that WWE doesn't recycle their storylines. Gosh - how many times do we get to have a triple threat match headline a PPV because of a screwy #1 contender angle? Smile and play along. Be a FAN.

Well said. I'm personally surprised the smarks aren't blowing a load all over this angle, being that the Young Blood's argument is that they are what started TNA and the WWE/WCW/ECW rejects are coming in and taking the top spots. Isn't that what they've been saying for 2 years now? Everyone complains about the stupid shit TNA does...well...maybe this is a feud that has potential. JJ's back, Foley's just been introduced, Angle looks like hes got that intensity back...let it play out, and in the meantime, enjoy the fact that people like MCMG and Styles are getting to the main event. It's been long missed.