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Last night when I saw that on Smackdown, I really began to wonder if in fact, Cena was on Steroids. He is huge, quite a bit larger than I remember him being when he was on Smackdown espeically in his feud with Carlito. And as the Forum God, Jake, said, he did come back awfully quick after that injury. But hey, they can't have Batista doing anti-Steroid Commercials, can they?
My guess is that the muscle tear wasn't as bad as either a) reported or b) expected. My guess is they just kept that a secret to keep fans oblivious to his return. I mean, he was able to return in early January, and they kept him off for a few weeks.
My guess is that it wasn't a serious muscle tear.
My guess is that it wasn't a serious muscle tear.
Deexter Jorgan
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hes on roids, the only person in the wwe who hasnt been on the juice is either cm punk or jercho, and also JBL the huge nasty piece of crap that he is
I find it very hard to believe, that at this point and time, the WWE would allow their top guy to make a hypocrite of himself, especially with the steroid scandal 07, and him being the guy to defend the WWE on all the shows.
If it wasn't a serious tear, he would be able to work out for a month or so before he came back. A month's work of working out, and doing nothing but, for a former bodybuilder and a health nut, could easily get Cena looking like he does. It's much easier to gain back muscle mass than it is to create it. Cena already had created it, he just had to get it back. It's really not that hard to gain back.
If it wasn't a serious tear, he would be able to work out for a month or so before he came back. A month's work of working out, and doing nothing but, for a former bodybuilder and a health nut, could easily get Cena looking like he does. It's much easier to gain back muscle mass than it is to create it. Cena already had created it, he just had to get it back. It's really not that hard to gain back.
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SARGON7
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i thin every wwe active superstar are taking steriods for sure . i mean cena told everybody about a year till he comeback but it was like only 5 months. its all fake including the injures!
I do look at him. I don't see breast tissue development. I don't see acne on his very fair skinned body. What I see is a guy who takes care of himself, and is a workout fiend.
"He's not on roid's"
Just look at him. Enough said.
Slim Pickns
Has Been Drafted To RAW
I have been a personal trainer for over a year now. I would bet almost anything Cena is not on roids. If he has taken them its never been for an extended period of time. Even someone who has no experience with nutrition, training, or supplements could tell the difference between Cena and Batista.
Mighty NorCal
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the injury never happened. it was a work. I explain this in the Cena thread. The pnly possible way he comes back from that injury in that amount of time with that physique. period.
Mighty NorCal
SHALL WE BEGIN?
I dont see how u can say Tista is and Cena isnt....they are both former body bulders, and cena is the one with the Ginormous jaw bone, not Batista. Batista actually takes the required amount of time to come back from catastrophic injuries as well.
Honestly, It wouldnt suprise me if ALL of them motherfuckers were on them. or at least the ones with amazing physiques. People just dont understand what goes into being built like that. How much u have to eat, what kind of stuff you HAVE to eat, how many hours a day you would have to be in the gym. to be able to balance that with preforming in the ring, and not getting hurt from overwork, to making production meetings ect, and traveling from location to location...U cant fucking be serious...its just not realistic by any stretch of the imagination...
Honestly, It wouldnt suprise me if ALL of them motherfuckers were on them. or at least the ones with amazing physiques. People just dont understand what goes into being built like that. How much u have to eat, what kind of stuff you HAVE to eat, how many hours a day you would have to be in the gym. to be able to balance that with preforming in the ring, and not getting hurt from overwork, to making production meetings ect, and traveling from location to location...U cant fucking be serious...its just not realistic by any stretch of the imagination...
Cena also was lifting when he was in junior high school, for several hours a day.
You just said Cena's injury was a work, so what does this have to do with anything?
Why? Why is it impossible to assume some people just work really hard on their body. Have you seen his pictures from his bodybuilding days? He's no where near as big as he used to be.
I presume you know it's not realistic because you've worked his schedule before? I mean, you MUST have experience working a schedule like his and know exactly what he does every hour of every day in order to make a statement like that.
Do you have ANY proof or evidence that he is? Has he EVER done or said anything that would indicate he has?
The only reason people want to claim he's on steroids is because they don't like him or his character. There is absolutely NOTHING else to suggest that he does.
Maybe he does do steroids. Only he really knows. But, he's offiically gone on record to say he hasn't, he's being tested by the WWE, he's never been caught with any steroids, he shows no signs of steroid abuse, and the WWE has worked hard to promote him as someone who has done them. Until you have some tangible evidence...ANY evidence...then to say he is definitely on them is ridiculous.
Mighty NorCal
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sly, must we do this??? LOL.
YOU make assumptions, and put words in my mouth. calm down buddy.
um yea??? so what? so was I....
so OBVIOUSLY im speaking hypothetically, as I am 100% sure the injury was a work, and have told YOU PERSONALLY before in an LD that I dont think Cena takes/took steroids. I just like to try and see everyones perspective, and dont find it necessary to condescendingly tear their opinons to shreds. Im merely visiting the possibility that he takes steroids. How dare me.
"just work really hard on their bodies"....you sound naive as a child right now. I would bet money that at least 90% of the guys who have very incredible physiques are on something. and probably a lot of guys who dont have incredible bodies are on them too. Rey mysterio and Edge both got busted, so how can people that have bodies that are far superior to their builds realistically keep that up???
funny you say that, becuase I DO work a schedule comparable to that and that IS how I know its not realistic. In the offseason, I work 10 hours a day, 5 days a week, and go to the gym 3 hours a day. Thats my day, without errands, living, and various other activities. I dont have to work matches. I dont have to do promotional work. I dont have production meetings to go to. I am not traveling EVERY NIGHT. My job DOES require me to go out traveling quite often, and its very hard to fit three hours of gym work a day inbetween traveling 7 to 14 hours a day. not to mention jet lag affecting your energy/motivation levels, and the lack of the availability of the nutrion that you NEED to maintain peak fitness levels. THATS IN THE OFFSEASON. I play semi pro football in the fall, and all athletes workout regiments are greatly scaled back IN season, becuase if your muscles are extremely overworked from the gym, you WILL tear something, and at the very least, be less effective durings games, becuase of muscle fatigue. Now take into account that the WWE wrestlers are basically ALWAYS in season, and EVERY night is "game night". you really think the difference between physiques of Batista and Cena are THAT much better than guys like Edge and Orton, just becuase they "work really hard"?
all the stuff I just sited above. THAT is evidence. when you have no drug tests to prove anything, you go off of indicators. People say Barry Bonds took steroids becuase he was putting up unusually good numbers and preformance. maintaining a physique such as that under his circumstances is unusual preformance. Coming back 4 months early from a "pec tear" BIGGER than he was when he left, would indicate that he has.
this is true. Totally. His character, and the person he is in general (or is potrayed to be) is the reason I belive he ISNT, and why I would be somewhat heart broken if it was revealed that he was.
yea becuase you know, Cena, the ultimate clean scrubbed face baby face is gonna come out on the record and say "fuck yea I take steroids, I eat that shit for breakfast lunch and dinner"....are you crazy??? LOL
He is being "tested" by WWE...sure. right. by that super amazing air tight fail proof "substance abuse policy" that WWE has. That thing is about as real as the fights and feuds you see on TV, sorry to break it to ya.
Yes, the WWE PROMOTES HIM to be someone who has never done them. Exactly.
I just presented evidence, and all evidence that is generally used to indicate if an athlete in any sport is on steroids.
please direct me to the spot in my post were I said he is "definately on steroids". I belive it doesnt exist. Personally I dont think he is. I am simply visiting the possibility, which I feel is a very strong possibility, and I would be the least bit suprised if it turned out he and 90% of the roster was.
YOU make assumptions, and put words in my mouth. calm down buddy.
um yea??? so what? so was I....
so OBVIOUSLY im speaking hypothetically, as I am 100% sure the injury was a work, and have told YOU PERSONALLY before in an LD that I dont think Cena takes/took steroids. I just like to try and see everyones perspective, and dont find it necessary to condescendingly tear their opinons to shreds. Im merely visiting the possibility that he takes steroids. How dare me.
"just work really hard on their bodies"....you sound naive as a child right now. I would bet money that at least 90% of the guys who have very incredible physiques are on something. and probably a lot of guys who dont have incredible bodies are on them too. Rey mysterio and Edge both got busted, so how can people that have bodies that are far superior to their builds realistically keep that up???
funny you say that, becuase I DO work a schedule comparable to that and that IS how I know its not realistic. In the offseason, I work 10 hours a day, 5 days a week, and go to the gym 3 hours a day. Thats my day, without errands, living, and various other activities. I dont have to work matches. I dont have to do promotional work. I dont have production meetings to go to. I am not traveling EVERY NIGHT. My job DOES require me to go out traveling quite often, and its very hard to fit three hours of gym work a day inbetween traveling 7 to 14 hours a day. not to mention jet lag affecting your energy/motivation levels, and the lack of the availability of the nutrion that you NEED to maintain peak fitness levels. THATS IN THE OFFSEASON. I play semi pro football in the fall, and all athletes workout regiments are greatly scaled back IN season, becuase if your muscles are extremely overworked from the gym, you WILL tear something, and at the very least, be less effective durings games, becuase of muscle fatigue. Now take into account that the WWE wrestlers are basically ALWAYS in season, and EVERY night is "game night". you really think the difference between physiques of Batista and Cena are THAT much better than guys like Edge and Orton, just becuase they "work really hard"?
all the stuff I just sited above. THAT is evidence. when you have no drug tests to prove anything, you go off of indicators. People say Barry Bonds took steroids becuase he was putting up unusually good numbers and preformance. maintaining a physique such as that under his circumstances is unusual preformance. Coming back 4 months early from a "pec tear" BIGGER than he was when he left, would indicate that he has.
this is true. Totally. His character, and the person he is in general (or is potrayed to be) is the reason I belive he ISNT, and why I would be somewhat heart broken if it was revealed that he was.
yea becuase you know, Cena, the ultimate clean scrubbed face baby face is gonna come out on the record and say "fuck yea I take steroids, I eat that shit for breakfast lunch and dinner"....are you crazy??? LOL
He is being "tested" by WWE...sure. right. by that super amazing air tight fail proof "substance abuse policy" that WWE has. That thing is about as real as the fights and feuds you see on TV, sorry to break it to ya.
Yes, the WWE PROMOTES HIM to be someone who has never done them. Exactly.
I just presented evidence, and all evidence that is generally used to indicate if an athlete in any sport is on steroids.
please direct me to the spot in my post were I said he is "definately on steroids". I belive it doesnt exist. Personally I dont think he is. I am simply visiting the possibility, which I feel is a very strong possibility, and I would be the least bit suprised if it turned out he and 90% of the roster was.
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Doshan
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Justify that, if you wouldn't mind.
He was being sarcastic
To say all wrestlers are on 'roids is a lil unfair. Saying they're all on dietary supplements, protein shakes/powders and performance boosters is probably closer to the truth, oh and there's dozens of different kinds of 'roids/medications people use to workout, in fact pregnancy medication and things like that have been known to be used by bodybuilders (like water retention drugs). Also, the WWE drug testing policy is a joke..but at least they have one.
blackhart07
Occasional Pre-Show
I love how everyone says the Vince Mcmahon wouldnt let his top guy take steroids. Are you kidding me this is Vince Mcmahon were talking about the same guy that took steroids, the same guy that had crook doctors in the 1980s handing out perscriptions left and right, the same guy that told Bruno Sammartino there is no steroid and drug use in the WWE at all. The WWE isnt clean and they will never be dont fool yourselves, infact wrestling as a whole will never be clean. I hate how the WWE has that commercial and look at Batista and some other guys. The WWE drug testing policy is a joke look whos running it the WWE. Do you really think the WWE would suspend John Cena if they found he had steroids in him? They would suspend the biggest draw they have for however many months. Thats BS the WWE will do anything to make money, and wouldnt even make a big deal about it, and it would be hush hush.
Evan Snow-Wolf
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I don't think Cena is on steroids. I think he's a nut for being the gym and was probably very obsessive about it. I see this a lot on female bodybuilding boards and comments about them on YouTube and the like. First its "eww, gross!", then its "She's a man", then comes the steroid comments.
Honestly, its not impossible to have those shapes. My wife is an amateur bodybuilder and without anything behind a few workouts a week and some basic milkshakes she's already put 2 inches on her arms and gained 10 lbs. Good genetics help a lot, too. I think steroids is a kneejerk reaction, honestly. Big does not always mean juiced.
Are some WWE workers on it? I'd put money on it. But not all of them.
Honestly, its not impossible to have those shapes. My wife is an amateur bodybuilder and without anything behind a few workouts a week and some basic milkshakes she's already put 2 inches on her arms and gained 10 lbs. Good genetics help a lot, too. I think steroids is a kneejerk reaction, honestly. Big does not always mean juiced.
Are some WWE workers on it? I'd put money on it. But not all of them.
You know I jst realized something the other day... now correct me if im wrong but I dont think Cena appeared on the Raw 15th Anniversary show. I would have thought that he would have been on it since he is the top dog on Raw and has been for over 2 years.
Soo I was wondering if maybe Vince knew the injury wasnt as bad but purposely told us Cena was out for over 6 months so that we could be surprised at the Royal Rumble.. I also think that if the injury was bad.. Cena would HAVE been on the Raw 15th anni special because we wouldnt have seen him until 'after may' lyk we were told so... and the WWE would have wanted Cena on the show to 'refresh out memories.
Anyone else agree with me?
Soo I was wondering if maybe Vince knew the injury wasnt as bad but purposely told us Cena was out for over 6 months so that we could be surprised at the Royal Rumble.. I also think that if the injury was bad.. Cena would HAVE been on the Raw 15th anni special because we wouldnt have seen him until 'after may' lyk we were told so... and the WWE would have wanted Cena on the show to 'refresh out memories.
Anyone else agree with me?