I started a thread in the Cigar Lounge of this forum several days ago where I was asking about whether or not people can change.I recieved sevral responses in which are sincerly appreciated but above that I was struck but something else;the depth of knowledge those responding had.It was awesome to read some of the posts because ,not only were they relevant to what I was asking, but because it proved wrong to me something in which people had been saying to me for years :wrestling fans are stupid. Well sir, I beg to differ.
I'm sure that at one point or another everyone on this site has come across the idea that wrestling fans are stupid. If not, go read a Mark Madden editorial. He makes the claim on a regular basis. I've been a member of this forum for about a year now (and regularly visited before that), and I've seen numerous examples of wrestling fans showing that they are as capable as anyone a providing both rational thought and delivering thought provoking subject matter.This isn't to say that there isn't those who are less intelligent, but to stereotype everyone who is an avid fan of wrestling as being stupid or "a moron" is insulting to me.
I just want to say that I hate the perception that wrestling fans are stupid. I'm no genius, but I'm sure as fuck not "the morons" in which people seem to percieve me as being, and neither are the bulk of this website, and neither are all the other people who enjoy wrestling.So I'd just like to take this moment to say to all those who look down upon wrestling fans : FUCK YOU.Pull your heads out of your collective ass' and look a little deeper before you label the wrestling community.We are as intelligent as any fan base out there and perhaps even more so.
Ironnically , most who judge won't ever read this, but I felt that many of the members of the wrestling community deserved to at the very least be stood up for.They don't deserved to be shit on.
ARTICLE FROM BLEACHER REPORT ON HOW THE "ALMIGHTY IWC" seems to find more faults then good reasons about WWE and TNA there are some good reasons why you assholes are complaining!
BY HamsterFan to Chameleon on 11/14/2010
The IWC,also known as the Internet Wrestling Community,is a community of fans who watch all kinds of wrestling organizations, particulary the mainstream WWE and TNA.
The IWC watches these shows weekly or whenever they can and tries to find the faults and errors that these shows contain. They manage to do a good job of finding what is wrong with the product, but pay little attention to what these organizations are doing right. Some good examples of the criticisms of people hating on these organizations are WWE's PG rating and TNA's lack of focus on the young guys.
Now while I agree with some of the reasons for all the hate that the IWC seems to find with these products, I also disagree on their choice to only view the faults and errors of these companies.
These companies may have a few errors here and there, but the faults of the companies are no reason to overlook the good things these companise provide. The IWC seems to have made a longer list of these companies faults rather than their strenghts.
Here is a compilation of the "faults" that the IWC sees in these companies:
WWE
- They have no "real" Tag Team Division
-They have a lack of real "wrestlers" in their Divas Division
-They don't give a damn about the Tag Team or the Divas Division
-They need to give faces such as Rey Mysterio and John Cena an overdue heel turn
-They need to build up more stars
-They need to push some wrestlers more than others
-The PPV cards seem to be lacking in entertainment and wrestling
-There is no real buildup
-There needs to be a long-lasting champion and fewer short-term champions
-The title shouldn't rotate as much
-Storylines are lacking
-More wrestling is needed
-Stand Up for WWE
-Uneven shows (RAW has too many faces while Smackdown has too many heels)
-NXT
-Champions need to be treated as champions
-Blood should be allowed to add "realism"
-PG has to go away, bring back TV-14
TNA
-Overusing blood
-Need to focus more on young stars then older stars
-Please use originality and no more recycled storylines
-Give the deserving guys a push
-Give the TNA championship to someone who is most likely not going to go to jail(LOL)
-Focus more on what put TNA on the map, the X-Division
-Get a bigger financial budget
-Stop hiring worthless people and hire someone useful for once
-Move out of the Impact zone
-Advertise more
-Remove the new ramp, it's too close to the ring
-(dumb IWC Ideology) Misspelled "THEY'RE HERE" and instead put "THERRRE HERE"
-Need less of "indy" feel
-Don't conclude the show without warning
-Don't conclude the show on TNA Reaction but on TNA IMPACT!
-Use better entrance themes and entrance videos
-Stop it with the swerves
-Use the people who know how to work
It seems to me as if the IWC really knows a company's faults when they see them.
Now on to the things these organizations do right, as stated by the sheep known as the IWC.
WWE
-Improvisation
Giving some deserving people a push
-Good angles and above-average storylines (NEXUS)
-Good wrestling (only on SMACKDOWN! and SUPERSTARS)
-Good feuds
-Good entrances/themes/videos
-Tour
-Charity
-Tribute to the troops
-Royal Rumble
-WrestleMania
-The Undertaker's Streak
-Good farewells/sendoffs most of the time (HBK,Ric Flair)
TNA
-Decent Tag Team Division
-Decent Knockout Division
-TNA Reaction
-Good wrestlers
-Decent ratings(1.0-1.7...LOL)
-Bound For Glory (WrestleMania RIPOFF!)
-Relaxed work schedule
-Fewer Injuries
-No more six sided ring
Are there more faults than strengths? Of course there are!
The reason is the IWC focuses on the faults more than the strengths that these organizations provide their viewers.
These organizations do provide some good things, but the IWC can't seem to see this.
Why is that? Is it because the problems are more obvious to the viewers than the strengths? If they are, then why doesn't the IWC do something to fix them instead of complaining?
If the IWC can't help fix the problems, then they shouldn't complain, because complaining only makes things worse.
Just sit back and enjoy the show and maybe, just maybe these companies may start making progress and start heading in the right direction.
But until then, don't complain, because these products may never improve if they always have someone telling them what to do and what not to do.
No company's perfect, even if one of them has Mr Perfect's son.
MY TAKE:
The worst part about the IWC is they are trying to sound like experts that they fail to be anything more than little kids crying over spilled milk. You can't control what happens on any of the shows. Whether you like what happens or you don't, If you were a true fan, you would watch anyway.
I absolutley HATE the NEXUS storyline and I think that wade barrett is wildly overpushed (especially with guys who have done much more to prove themselves than wade barrett has in the little time he was there) But with my hatred of the NEXUS story, have i stopped watching WWE? NO!! because i am a fan. And no matter if i love something or don't like it at all, I WILL KEEP WATCHING!
I watch it for enjoyment of the sport. I love watching the silly promos, and the great feuds unfold. It's never perfect, but as a true fan, I love it anyway!
sometimes TNA and WWE make me roll my eyes but do i complain, NO! and sometimes they put me on the edge of my seat by giving us good IMPACT!,RAW,SMACKDOWN!,NXT and superstars shows.
The problem with the IWC is they don't like anything, and if you disagree with the "laws" they try to lay down, you are either considered a child that loves the PG era or you are a TNAsympathizer (i made that up)! Heck with the IWC it's a crime to like John Cena at all.
The Problem Isn't with WWE or TNA, It's With the IWC Because the fact is that you guys and gals complain about the littlest of things and will bash a person who disagree with you. and when vince or dixie decide to listen to you... YOU WILL THEN DENOUNCE THE VERY THING THAT YOU WANTED!!!
Eric Bischoff and Mark Madden is right when they say "YOU CAN'T PLEASE THE IWC" and "THEY ACT LIKE THEY OWN WWE or TNA"
If you want your so-called "change" instead of bantering and bitching to Steve,Carl,Tommy,Earl, and Paul on the PC or the Laptop.
Get a pen and paper or since you kids love to rant and banter and complain on the internet... WRITE TO VINCE OR DIXIE and tell them what you want!
BUT WHY DO IT?
all yall going to do is turn on the very thing you asked for!
YOU GUYS ARE THE REASON WHY VINCE AND DIXIE IS STICKING A FORK IN OUR ASSES! TO MUCH COMPLAINING AND WHINING!
and to the so-called experts that think they know all about the "wrassilin" business while sitting on a couch or on a PC:
1. go to a wrestling school and train to become a wrestler.
2.lace up a pair of wrestling boots and put on some spandex or tights.
3. get a job as a writer for WWE or TNA if you want to "CHANGE" the business.
4. get into a car or plane with john cena,or john morrison, or HHH and travel to each city across the country or the world and put on a show for "your" fans if you want to work for WWE or do the same thing with AJ styles, Kurt Angle, and Jeff Hardy if you prefer to work for TNA
5. Get Injured
6. Wait until vince gives up WWE or Dixie gives up TNA and lobby for chairman or president.
7. leave the "news" to the wrestling websites like WRESTLEZONE and other sites.
do those 7 things and then you will be considered an wrestling "expert"
but if you preffer not to do those things.....
QUIT BITCHING!!!! you are only making the product more worse than it already is!
Sorry For The LOOOOOOOOOONG Post! i am not ranting, I am stating the truth on how the IWC operates!
If you agree with me or if you dont: I DON'T CARE!
