The Fix for a 3Hr Raw.

[ThisIsLCS]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1220108-wwe-the-live-crowd-cant-sit-through-three-hours-of-raw

Labar thinks by the third hour of Raw the crowd will be Tired as heck. (How can you be tired from Sitting and Clapping? eh, another story)



If this is at all an actual concern, Then this is how I propose they fix it. The Raw Pre-Show!


I Believe this idea was brought about for when WWE Network finally showed up, but This would be a great idea to use Now.

Use the First hour to show all the Recap Vids, Interviews for this story and that story. and maybe a Pre-Match or 2. Pretty much make it a "Heat/Velocity" Before the actual show takes place.

You can use the guys who Arent being used here, hell the Divas too. If you want something Shocking like a Backstage Attack and what have you, throw it in the Middle or near the end of this first hour.

What this does is you (Should) No longer have to waste time within the main 2 hours with This recap and that recap of what happened last week, Maybe just 1 more for a Big story line but thats it. You have More time in the next 2 hours for either Longer matches, or even More matches.

Then whenever they wanna do one of their "Special" Raws. Roulette, Old School, Raw 2000th and such, Then you can just use the entire 3 hours of raw as they have been doing.


Pre show Pros-

-Crowds wont have to show up that early unless they are just Die Hards and dont want to miss ANYTHING.

-More Time for Matches and Other important stuff for the main 2 hours, by using the 1st of the 3 hours for all the Recaps and story updates.

-Underused/Non-used talent can be used here for a Pre match or 2.

-Due to Most of the crowd not being there for the Pre show, they wont be as Tired sitting through the Rest of the show.



Pre show Cons-

- Uhh...Lot of Recap and Promo vids??

I cant really see a Con here lol.




Thoughts?

 

[2Sweet_4Life]

But dude don't you understand its 3 hour raw... not 2 hours with 1 not televised. But i think your ideas are cool like JR said yesterday in a 3 hour raw don't do 2 more raw recaps and 2 more promos do 3-4 more matches.

 

[Maikeru_1979]

they r doing this to get more advertising $$$ from every weekly show the advertisers pay by what the neilson ratings show. the higher the rating the more they make. so by taking the first hour of raw & creating a recap show the rating i would guarantee you would be lower than Impact Wrestlings rating which would defeat the purpose of expanding to 3 hours.

if they just use the 3 hours wisely they would be better off. get some tag teams and restart that division. get some decent women wrestlers and restart that division make the US & IC Titles mean something. and the only way they will be able to do any of these is by making at least a passing attempt at being creative and giving the divisions at least marginal story lines not just a we need the tag titles to be seen so let us have a title match between champ a and challenger b with no back story.



off topic here..has anyone else on here been banned from posing on the disqus forum in the news articles? cause I have

 

[BigLuther]

I think we're going to see a little more of what we saw the other night on the 3-hour RAW. Mainly segment driven, a few short matches and then one PPV quality match. If every week they devote time to even one really good wrestling match, it'll make the time go by. Also with this time, they could begin to bring back the tag division. No excuses anymore for not having enough TV time to fit in an angle with the titles.

 

[mrkingofworld]

Your philosophy is way off. With what you are saying, nobody will watch the first hour, and it will be mostly filler. That's fine and dandy, however it won't help the video packages. WWE uses these packages to get people the watch the PPV, etc. They will not air them exclusively on the first hour, knowing that nobody watches the first hour, and as you stated, people aren't even in the building yet because no one cares. If nobody is watching the first hour, than they still "need" to show the videos when people are actually watching, i.e. hour 2 and 3.

 

[ThisIsLCS]

But dude don't you understand its 3 hour raw... not 2 hours with 1 not televised. But i think your ideas are cool like JR said yesterday in a 3 hour raw don't do 2 more raw recaps and 2 more promos do 3-4 more matches.

I never said Dont Televise it lol. That would just be that first hour of Raw, Recaps of what happened last week, some backstage stuff and a couple of matches. They still get their commercials and all that.

Though to "Maikeru_1979" point No one would really Watch that first hour so the advertising would be kind of wasted. Hmm...

 

[crippler]

I never said Dont Televise it lol. That would just be that first hour of Raw, Recaps of what happened last week, some backstage stuff and a couple of matches. They still get their commercials and all that.

Though to "Maikeru_1979" point No one would really Watch that first hour so the advertising would be kind of wasted. Hmm...

If you have 1 full hour of recaps people will not tune in until the 2nd hr if at all you would lose too many viewers kicking raw off with too many recaps

 

[jerry20xx]

Why would WWE go out on a limb to announce Raw as a permanent three hour show just to announce that the first hour would be a replay/backstage segment? I thought that's what Raw AM is. A show featuring replays and segments. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The Tensai/Sheamus match was amazing. I loved how stiff each guy worked. Sheamus is known for his stiffness and hard blows. I loved that these guys were putting it all at there like it were a PPV match. That's how every match should be. Whatever pep-talk that was given to Tensai, needs to be given to everyone to straighten them up.

I think a strong match like this needs to open and close every Raw and Smackdown.

To be honest, I think one reason WWE is trying to get a hold of cruiserweights would be for the revival of a cruiserweight division. what better way to air it, than on one of the three hours of Raw?

Kind of convenient that there are reports of WWE looking for cruiserweights and that they just happen to make Raw a three hour show.

Any ideas?

 

[ThisIsLCS]

Why would WWE go out on a limb to announce Raw as a permanent three hour show just to announce that the first hour would be a replay/backstage segment? I thought that's what Raw AM is. A show featuring replays and segments. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The Tensai/Sheamus match was amazing. I loved how stiff each guy worked. Sheamus is known for his stiffness and hard blows. I loved that these guys were putting it all at there like it were a PPV match. That's how every match should be. Whatever pep-talk that was given to Tensai, needs to be given to everyone to straighten them up.

I think a strong match like this needs to open and close every Raw and Smackdown.

To be honest, I think one reason WWE is trying to get a hold of cruiserweights would be for the revival of a cruiserweight division. what better way to air it, than on one of the three hours of Raw?

Kind of convenient that there are reports of WWE looking for cruiserweights and that they just happen to make Raw a three hour show.

Any ideas?

AM Raw is Raw condensed into say...44 Minutes. (with commercials and such)

Not really a Recap show as it is just a much Faster version of Raw itself. Also its on at 2am. I would think the first hour of raw at 8pm on a Monday would get more viewers than raw at 2am sunday morning.


As for the CWs, I thought the idea there was that they have their Own show?

 

[JaceEvans]

Though to "Maikeru_1979" point No one would really Watch that first hour so the advertising would be kind of wasted. Hmm...

Well one solution would be to mix in a special announcment/match no one would know when it would come so they would have to watch the whole thing. I think the first hour would be better served as a place to watch the New cruiserweight division and maybe the US/IC title feuds IMO.

 

[WolfNyte]

First off I want to say Labar is an idiot.

Now onto other things.

I liked the whole show I usually watch Hells Kitchen when its on but I DVRed it instead and never flipped back once to HK. There was not a segment I didnt like to be honest then again I have been watching since like 1982 so I enjoy promos as well as wrestling. I was on the floor with " GOAT FACE " and when Vince interrrupted and pointed out "Fire Johnny" was trending world wide it was great.

The looks on Cena, Show and Larangitus when show WMD'd Vince was a priceless OH SHIT even tho it was planned out. Show standing there going uhhhh ummm what do I do now selling it great.

Even the Santino match was funny as hell especially with the Bieber shirt freaking awsome.

Tensai and Sheamus wow is all I can say.

Vince dancing and Ryder 's jaw on the floor Hillarious.

So many dont remember the golden age prior to the attitude era. How it was about fun and a show not so serious. I find that sad really remember pro-wrestling came out of the circus it was about fun and not all about spot monkeys.

I could see todays IWC going off on George Steel for eating a turnbuckle or Donk and Dink and all the other FUN stuff from the 80's and 90's. Its supposed to be fun guys and as Joker would say " Why So Serious"

 

[jerry20xx]

Exactly, Raw's general 2 hour show actually runs around 85-95 minutes.

AM Raw is about 45 minutes. How can they fit 95 minutes at the most into a 45 minute show? It's a recap show, bro.

As for cruiserweights getting their own show...I don't think WWE Network will be started anytime soon. They haven't even found any cable or satellite providers yet.

 

[ThisIsLCS]

Well one solution would be to mix in a special announcment/match no one would know when it would come so they would have to watch the whole thing. I think the first hour would be better served as a place to watch the New cruiserweight division and maybe the US/IC title feuds IMO.

Well yea Thats what I was kind of getting at. Mid Card guys/feuds that barely get time. Tag teams/IC & US Title fueds, matches for #1 contendership of said titles. Just mid card fueds with no titles in them. stuff like that.

 

[2Sweet_4Life]

I never said Dont Televise it lol. That would just be that first hour of Raw, Recaps of what happened last week, some backstage stuff and a couple of matches. They still get their commercials and all that.

Though to "Maikeru_1979" point No one would really Watch that first hour so the advertising would be kind of wasted. Hmm...

Dude you said a pre-show? Its a basic raw with just an extra hour of bad segments and recap and more commentator storylines.

 

[anthonymclaughlin]

solution for what? monday night raw was ace, they had more than enough creative talent, the fact that matches weren't squeezed into a narrow time slot gave them room to smash out great storytelling (or maybe they were just showing off for the boss) and more backstage segments is an insta win for me.

 

[Cereal Killer]

The raw crowd stay there long anyway as WWE superstars is taped there. They need to hype RAW more like they used to during the attitude era and make it more interesting so that the crowd stay awake during the 3rd extra hour

 

[FlairFan2003]

Back in the 80s and early 90s when I regularly attended house shows they all ran roughly 3hrs. Matches started at 7pm or 7:30 and always ran past 10pm, same for WWF & NWA shows. No one got restless or lost interest in the last part of the show as long as the matches were good.

Now on house shows we didnt have to sit through a bunch of boring interview segments taped backstage being shown on a screen in the arena.

Everything happened live in the ring and as long as it was good we were entertained and happy, for the whole 3hrs. Maybe on a 3hr Raw they should hold the backstage segments to a minimum, show them consecutive at the midway point of the program so fans can use that time for restroom, concession, and phone time, like intermission at a non televised show.

 

[MizMark11]

In Canada, we get this Raw pre-show which is basically the previous Raw recapped in 15 minutes...I never watch it. If we're going to have 3 hour Raws, give us that. Don't give us an hour that is last week's Raw with a few more matches that could, guess what, be on the 3 hour Raw! If WWE just puts a lot of work and lets us see more matches and maybe an extra segment, then we're going to be fine.

 

[THE Great GAMMA]

Fix is easy...keep the amount of promo time the same. just have more or longer matches. have the matches actually tell more of the story than the promos. Heck they can even do what they used to back in the day and have pre recorded promos during the entances on the left hand side of the screen..

 

[TakersBroski987]

In a permanent three hour broadcast, I could see more "filler"-segments, involving guys like Santino, Clay and Ryback or even a Divas match. The crowd don't have to be invested much in these segments, compared to a Punk/Bryan match. I do agree with Labar (I hate to admit it though), a 3-hr RAW would be difficult to pull off regularly, without considerable planning (as in less sloppy) and improvement.

 

[akathelaw]

I expect longer matches with commercial breaks in between. It will give fans an idea of what PPV's are like, and no commercial interruptions. In the last few years I've noticed WWE TV matches get shorter and shorter and the ratings going down. When the focus is on everything except wrestling, you end up with a mediocre drama show centered around fake fights that are over in seconds... Who wants to watch that? If 3 hour Raw focuses less on wrestling, it will fail.