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Souled Out 1998
Date: January 24, 1998
Location: Hara Arena, Dayton, Ohio
Attendance: 5,486
Commentators: Tony Schiavone, Bobby Heenan, Dusty Rhodes
More back to back reviews so I can have a full series done, in this case Souled Out as Ill be doing this and 2000 back to back to get these off my list. Anyway this show never was much as far as importance goes and the card makes that pretty clear. Theres a double main event of a grudge match with Luger vs. Savage (which Ill get to later about why you could tell this company was in trouble) and Hart vs. Flair in Brets first big WCW match. Lets get to it.
This is on a Saturday if that means anything to you.
We open with a video about Nash vs. Giant which is actually happening tonight as Nash had bailed on the match at Starrcade. Both had to put up 1.5 million dollars bond to guarantee various things that dont matter. The video is about Bischoff collecting souls or something. Whatever.
The announcers run down the card while the fans chant for the Weasel. Were going to get an announcement about the world title that is vacant because WCW was incredibly stupid and managed to fuck up the unfuckupable.
Juventud Guerrera/Super Calo/Lizmark Jr/Chavo Guerrero vs. La Parka/Silver King/Psicosis/El Dandy
Im not sure who the favorites are here but Id never be one to doubt El Dandy. This is under Lucha Libre rules which means if you hit the floor thats as good as a tag. Calo vs. Psicosis to start us off. Calo gets an armdrag to send Psicosis to the floor but he comes back in. No substitution which is kind of odd but whatever. Psicosis chops away and drops an elbow on the back to take over.
Powerslam by Calo and a tilt-a-whirl slam and its off to Silver King vs. Lizmark. This is one of those matches where its nearly impossible to keep up with whats going on and that more or less isnt the point at all. Silver King gets a tornado DDT but its off to Chavo vs. El Dandy. Big monkey flip to Dandy and theyre out rather quickly.
Off to La Parka vs. Juvy now. Theyre moving in very quickly out there. They fight on the apron with La Parka falling on his face in a funny spot. Back in the ring and Guerrera gets a kick to the face and a SWEET top rope rana puts Parka on the floor. Off to Lizmark who gets a moonsault to take Juvy down. Off to Psicosis who gets rolled up. Dandy is in and gets La Magistrol for two.
Calo comes in to face Silver King but the whole thing breaks down. Tenay says he more or less has no idea whats going on. Juvy botches the hell out of a rana on Silver King but Juvy escapes and mostly hits a 450 for two. Parka gets a powerbomb on Guerrera for two. Falcon Arrow to Chavo sets up the guillotine legdrop by Psicosis. Some people are thrown to the floor so its Silver King vs. Super Calo.
LET THE DIVING BEGIN as everyone goes after everyone and there is no point at all to try to call this. The only ones left in the ring are Chavo and Psicosis with Chavo in control. Psicosis misses a charge and Chavo hits the tornado DDT (his finisher) to end this. La Parka kills them all with chairs because he feels like it. He beats up his own partners too and does his chair dance to a big reaction.
Rating: B. WOW. This is one of the most insanely fast matches youll ever see and for an opener, THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT. Was it technically sound or really even sound at all? Not in the slightest, but thats not the point here. The idea here was to just go insane and have everyone look awesome and thats what they did. Fun as hell.
Raven vs. Chris Benoit
Raven is listed at 239lbs. Thats much lighter than I would expect. The Flock is with him and the they actually come out from the entrance. Theres no Saturn here as he would start his rebellion. The Flock is barred from ringside apparently. Raven bitches about things and doesnt seem to care. This is Ravens Rules, as in No DQ.
Raven gets a baseball slide to Benoit as he comes in and we head to the floor early. Back in the ring and Benoit grabs a quick backslide for two. This is far more of a brawl than a match but Benoit can easily pull that off so it works well. Back to the floor and Raven grabs a chair. Bulldog onto the unfolded chair gets two as Benoit gets a foot on the ropes. Benoit pulls a Raven with a drop toehold onto the chair for two in a sick looking spot.
Benoit chops away and down he goes. Suplex onto the chair gets two. Benoit gets the shirt off of Raven and returns the favor of the baseball slide, sending Raven into the railing. A whip into the steps follows as Raven tries to run away. They go up the aisle and Raven is suplexed to keep Benoits advantage. Back in the ring and Benoit puts the chair on Ravens face. The Swan Dive CRACKS into the chair and both guys are out. FREAKING OW MAN! That looked incredible but DAMN it must have hurt like hell.
Somehow that only gets two. The crowd is insane here by the way. See what a great opener can get you? Northern Lights is countered by the DDT which is kind of known as Ravens finisher but not officially. Fans are totally behind Benoit here. Another DDT is countered into the Crossface and Raven .smiles while in it. That boy is not right. He passes out in the hold and were done.
Rating: B+. DAMN this was a war. These are two of the hottest openers I can remember in a very long time. Total beating from both guys here as we got incredibly physical. That swan dive is something else. Raven could have been totally awesome but instead we got more NWO. Anyway, great war here and Benoit looks like a killer.
Kidman of the Flock comes out for the beatdown but Malenko comes out for the save for no apparent reason. The whole Flock comes out but Raven is done. Benoit and Malenko look at each other and thats about it.
Cruiserweight Title: Chris Jericho vs. Rey Mysterio
Rey is champion here and Jericho is a heel. We keep hearing about how big of a heart he has. Shouldnt he see a cardiologist already? Rey has a legit bad knee here (shocking I know) and is going away after this match (not announced of course) so I think you know the ending here. Jericho tries to be a bully and gets slapped instead. Jericho runs him over with a shoulder. When do you see Jericho with a size and power advantage?
Rey gets a nice headscissors to send Jericho to the floor. He uses what would evolve into the 619 but his knee goes out in mid move. Rey locks on a chinlock which is countered for a bit but that counter is countered into a victory roll by Rey for two. Rey wants a rana to the floor but with Jericho on the apron he catches Rey and drops him throat first on the top rope while jumping to the floor. Cool counter.
Jericho gets a butterfly backbreaker and sets up the steps before heading back into the ring. Rey fights back and gets what was kind of a jumping Killswitch to take Jericho down. Baseball slide to Jerichos leg takes Jericho to the floor. Running tope con hilo into a seated senton puts Jericho down again but the knee is gone.
Rey manages to get a flapjack to Jericho to send him into the steps. West Coast Pop is broken up and the knee is wrenched all over again. Jericho goes up and Rey tries the rana which is countered into the Walls (Liontamer at the time but you get the idea). Finish was out of NOWHERE which makes me think the knee was completely destroyed. Rey would be gone until July so that knee was really messed up.
Rating: B-. A lot of that is for the knee. Rey was legitimately trying out there but there comes a point where the injury is too much to deal with. They did everything they could out there but with the knee falling apart mid match theres only so much you can do. Reys knees would never really work again for the most part.
Jericho gloats post match and beats up Mysterio with the knee brace. Cody Rhodes is smiling somewhere. He slams an anvil case into the knee which goes into the steps.
JJ Dillon and Gene are in the ring. Dillon has the vacant world title and its time for an announcement about it. Ok so in case you dont know what happened, Sting had been the Crow that didnt talk forever and Hogan had been champion more or less for 16 months. Sting finally got his shot at Hogan at Starrcade in what should have been a massacre of Hogan with Sting dominating him to win the title.
However since this is WCW, they screwed it up. Hogan more or less beat Sting up and the fans simply did not accept this. The whole thing was rejected and the audience steadily began to head over to WWF. The problem was simple: WCW had built this up for over a year and the fans wanted to see something.
Ive heard the excuse of Sting was high or something when they got there, but if he can at least perform at all, Hogan should not have had a chance. Hogan danced around out there and Sting looked like a fool. I still stand by my statement that this was the bullet that took WCW down. Read the Starrcade 97 review for the full details.
So anyway, the title was held up at the first Thunder and theres a rematch. Unfortunately its not tonight as that would be giving too much credit to the fans I guess, so if you REALLY want to see Hogan vs. Sting, BUY SUPERBRAWL!!!! Oh wait Im getting ahead of myself. Dillon brings out Roddy Piper who was interim commissioner and was consulted on this. He hasnt been seen since the terrible main event of Halloween Havoc.
Ah apparently he made Hogan vs. Piper in the first place. He talks about everyone involved including Scott Hall who won World War 3 and is the official #1 contender. Piper calls out Sting, Hall and Hogan. Sting comes first and then the others do as well but along with Bischoff. Naturally they take forever.
Hall is #1 contender to the world champion but we have no world champion. Piper says that Hogan has a claim to the title but he doesnt get it. The rematch is made for Superbrawl and Hall would eventually get the title match at Uncensored (albeit in the second to last match as Hogan vs. Savage was the main event). In other words, it took five months for him to win his shot and then actually get it. Hall walks away and is like whatever. Sting chases Hogan and Bischoff off. This took over ten minutes somehow.
TV Title: Rick Martel vs. Booker T
Booker has the title here. No one is really sure why Martel came back as he was old and not the Model or anything but just a guy in a leather jacket that youve likely heard of. They feel each other out to start us off with both guys getting two. Im still trying to figure out why Martel is getting a push like this. Hes certainly not bad and could wrestle a perfectly watchable match at this point (he destroyed his knee at the next PPV and had to retire) but its still a really weird pick.
Booker works on the arm for a bit. Suplex and a side kick get two and were back to the arm. Pretty much all Booker so far as he gets a hook kick for two. Martel makes Booker miss but gets caught in an armdrag and its the armbar again. Leap frog by Martel is countered by what might be a headbutt to the balls. Martel might have been faking it and suckers Booker in to hammer away, almost doing a mid-match heel turn.
Off to the chinlock now by Martel who is all evil now. Booker hammers away but a spinebuster takes him down for two. More back work by Martel, this time in the form of an abdominal stretch. Booker tries a comeback but misses a dropkick. Quebec (Boston) Crab goes on and Booker is in trouble. Oh never mind as he grabs a rope. This is a pretty generic although decent match. Axe kick out of nowhere gets no cover as Booker goes up. The Harlem Hangover ends this. Its a front flip legdrop if youre unfamiliar.
Rating: C+. Not bad but just kind of generic like I said. Martel was ok but he wasnt interesting in the slightest. He never could get anywhere with the comeback due to his knee injury but this was as good as it was going to get I think. Could have been on Nitro though, which is rarely a good sign.
Post match Martel hands Booker the belt. After Booker leaves Saturn pops up to beat up Martel. Booker would face Martel at the next PPV and then face Saturn immediately thereafter.
Scott Hall vs. Larry Zbyszko
This is the culmination of some weird AWA angle that no one cared about but it resulted in Larry having a few matches. Hall has the soon dead Louie Spicolli with him. Dusty wonders who is coming out with Larry, and to the shock of no one, its Dusty himself. Bobby thinks the fans at home are standing over this pick. Uh, why? Also who thought purple and gold/yellow were good signature colors for a wrestling company?
The announcers touch on the AWA stuff a bit but never say any specifics. Larry controls early with amateur/mat stuff. Heenan talks about Ted DiBiase for no apparent reason. The other announcers point out that he has the wrong person and Heenan ADMITS HES WRONG!!! Theyre taking their sweet time out here with nothing going on at all really. Larry gets an abdominal stretch which is countered by a hiptoss for the biggest spot of the match so far.
The hold goes right back on and its the same counter. Larry goes for the neck so Hall gets to the ropes. Big old right hand to Larry puts Larry down and Spicolli adds in a shot. Cue Dusty to something resembling a good reaction going after Spicolli. This is rather boring so far and the fans seem to realize that. The fans chant for Larry and he starts the comeback. Hall goes for the legs as this is really boring. Also, this is the #1 contender remember.
LOUD Larry sucks chant starts up with Tony more or less saying the fans have no idea what theyre talking about. A Hall sucks chant starts up so Tony is all happy. The dueling chants begin as Hall gets the fall away slam. Oh and Hall/Nash are the tag champions here. A backdrop gets Larry out of the Outsider Edge and heres the comeback again.
Larry, the old man, pounds Hall down and shoves the referee which lets Hall come back. Somehow that isnt a DQ but since when does WCW keep their DQ rules the same for more than one show in a row? Larry accidently kicks the referee and Hall takes Zbyszko down. Larry plays possum on Hall and gets his guillotine choke on him. Spicolli comes in and punches Larry but THAT isnt enough for the DQ.
Dusty comes in to a big reaction to hammer away and do something that I think is supposed to be dancing. He drills Louie with a bunch of elbows to the cranium and joins the NWO by hitting Larry and taking off his shirt to reveal the black and white. Does this really surprise anyone? The big beatdown leads to the DQ and Tony and Bobby are disgusted.
Rating: D. This was whatever really. No one, and I mean no one, cared about Dusty turning here. He wouldnt be around that long at all as he would head over to ECW and then come back in like a year and a half. Spicolli was supposed to fight Zbyszko at Superbrawl but he wouldnt be alive in 30 days. Weak match here and a waste of Hall who was being pushed at this point.
We recap the segment and Tony hates it. The fans still think Larry sucks, proving that the whole thing failed.
Scott Norton/Buff Bagwell/Konnan vs. Ray Traylor/Steiner Brothers
Traylor is the Big Boss Man. Tony walks off set for a bit so Tenay comes out to give us Tenay and Heenan on commentary. Ok dude, EVERYONE has joined the NWO and this is supposed to be a big deal. The Steiner team has DiBiase with them and the NWO has Vincent which is kind of cool. Scott Steiner is teasing a heel turn as he has been doing for about the last six months. He would finally turn the next month.
Tony comes back and bitches about Dusty. Yep this is going to go on forever isnt it? Scott Steiner (damn I have to specify in this match dont I) wants to start but his partners wont let him because they know he wont tag out. Buff and Rick officially start. We talk about Dusty a lot and completely ignore the match at hand, which makes sense as theres nothing to this match anyway.
Buff destroys him to start until a powerslam or something like one gets Rick out of trouble. Off to Traylor who hammers away. Two minutes in and Tony stops posting in his Livejournal about how much he hates Dusty now. Basically this is a handicap match since Rick and Traylor wont tag Scott in due to him being a whiny bitch as I said. I know Im repeating a lot of stuff but theres nothing to say here otherwise.
Rick rips away at Buffs face and Norton finally comes in. Its weird that the team wrestling with two guys had made more tags than the team with three. Traylor hammers away on Norton and beats on Buff too. The numbers catch up with them and Heenan has a Freudian slip by talking about Dusty again. For the love of tar shut up about him! Konnan vs. Traylor at the moment in this boring match.
Tony announces again that hes going to stop thinking about it. Naturally it takes him 15 seconds to stop talking about how hes going to stop talking about it. Traylor and Norton collide and everyone is down. Scott Steiner hasnt been in yet at all. Konnan gets a DDT to take down Rick as Tony tries to say Dusty is the reason the crowd is dead. Well at least hes funny about it.
Rick gets beaten up on the floor as the VERY ANGRY Scott Steiner wont even get off the apron to help. Hes kind of being a dick when you think about it. The problem is that we keep seeing the same combinations of five guys that arent interesting in the slightest. Scott Steiner gets over next to Traylor on the same side which isnt something you see often. They argue about it because they feel like annoying me.
Chinlock by Buff to Rick and Scott Steiner continues to be annoying as he wants a tag. Konnan beats on Rick for awhile as we need this to end or at least do something already. The fans are bored out of their minds and the announcers keep blaming it on Dusty instead of a terribly bad 6 man tag. For a nice change of pace, Norton beats on Rick for awhile now. This beating segment has been going on for like 4 minutes now.
Rolling dropkick by Konnan but Rick FINALLY breaks off some offense and everyone is down. Scott Steiner and Traylor tag in at the same time so no one is sure whats going on. The future Big Poppa Pump shoves the referee and gets tagged in .somehow. Steiner Screwdriver (look that insane move up) to Konnan ends this.
Rating: D-. WAY too long here with Rick being in there forever. This was boring beyond belief and the crowd died from it. The announcers didnt care at all and they talked about the Dusty turn the entire turn. Steiner would FINALLY turn next month and then do nothing of note for about six months due to Goldberg getting the focus as he should have.
Scott Steiner and Bagwell have some weird moment post match for even more foreshadowing.
Giant vs. Kevin Nash
This is the match that was supposed to happen for months but Nash didnt show up at Starrcade because he didnt want to lose to Giant. Remember that. After all the months of waiting, they lock up. Riveting stuff so far. Hogan and Bischoff are here with Nash because Hogan put up the 1.5 million dollars required to get Nash here. The deal was Nash had to ensure hed be here (think about that for a minute) and Giant had to put it up to ensure he wouldnt touch Nash. Riveting stuff.
Giant beats on him for awhile and Nash bails. Bobby literally whispers things into Tonys ear and Tony gets annoyed at him for it. Giant chokes away in the corner with the foot and its more or less all future Big Show. Nash busts out a freaking leap frog of all things and puts Giant on the floor. NASH JUMPS OVER THE TOP ONTO GIANT AND GETS CAUGHT IN THE AIR!!! Think about that for a few seconds. Once your minds are done getting blown and you towel off, Ill be here waiting.
Giant throws Nash in and Bischoff distracts the referee, allowing Hogan to DRILL Giant in the back with a chair. Giant makes it back in at about 9.8 and here comes Nash. We need a name for the spot where a guy is in position for a 619 and a guy gets a running start to jump on his back/neck. Giant shrugs the offense off and takes Nash down with a clothesline.
Both guys try big boots at the same time and theyre both down. Nash hammers away with his usual big power spots but walks into an atomic drop and some headbutts to take him down. Big boot puts Nash down as does a slam. Bischoff pops up and gets a chokeslam as a late Christmas present. Nash gets coffee from .somewhere and throws it in Giants eyes. Nash then tries the Jackknife and drops Giant ON HIS HEAD, looking like he killed him dead to end it. The crowd is completely silent after that for a second as that was terrifying. Giant would be out about a month because of it.
Rating: D. Well some of the spots were cool but giant vs. giant matches get kind of dull after awhile. The powerbomb at the end is absolutely terrifying though. Naturally they show the replay twice. One other thing to note here: Nash won the match. In other words, he avoided jobbing by not showing up and got to win a month later. And people said they didnt have stroke backstage.
Bret Hart vs. Ric Flair
Basically just an Im better than you match. Somehow this is Brets in ring debut for WCW. How in the world did they wait this long, AND WHY IN THE WORLD WAS THIS NOT AT STARRCADE??? Oh thats right: we needed a boring six man on that show! Bret grabs a headlock and eventually takes him to the mat with it. This has a ton of time for it and Heenan wastes some of it by talking about Flairs sex life.
Flair is only 48 here and is still rather good in the ring. My goodness did he go downhill during the Evolution years. Bret grabs a figure four for a bit but a rope is grabbed quickly. Suplex gets two and were back to that headlock. Bret slaps Flair down and the blonde haired one takes a break on the floor. Back in and Bret throws Flair around a bit and its back to the headlock.
A quick thumb to the eye and down goes the Canadian. Hart grabs a sleeper out of nowhere but gets reversed into a belly to back almost immediately. Flair gets a low blow in and of course Heenan defends it. Heenan and Flair are hilarious. Tony: You know youre an idiot. Off to a chinlock by Naitch which doesnt last long. Flair chokes away and is clearly the heel in this match.
Chops vs. punches is won by the puncher and I think you know who that is. Swinging neckbreaker by Bret gives us a little breather. Bret gets a bulldog for two. Well he used to be a cowboy so he has to have a bulldog every now and then I guess. Bret goes after the knee as is his custom. The figure four around the post doesnt work as we hear about Jim Neidhart for no apparent reason.
Back in and Flair unleashes the knee crusher. You have to admit they know their formula if nothing else. Another knee crusher and Bret is in trouble. Bret gets an enziguri out of nowhere to put Flair down. Good back and forth stuff here. Bret tries another figure four but gets caught in a rollup for two. And theres the chop block and Bret is right back down again.
Theres the REAL Figure Four (by the REAL Worlds Champion for you old school fans out there) and Bret grabs the referee. The crowd doesnt seem to care here which is kind of weird. Flair slaps Bret in the face because thats always worked so well for him over the years.
Bret reverses which stays on for all of a second. Flair goes up and its apparent that Flair suffers from extreme memory loss as he continues to try thing after thing and it never works at all. Theres the Russian leg sweep by the Canadian to the Flairian (like hes actually human) but Flair pops up and chops away in the corner.
Hart takes the straps down and is all like BRING IT ON! Bret hammers away in the corner and Flair is in trouble. Atomic drop out of the corner by Ric is in trouble. Here are the five moves of doom and amazingly enough, they actually work and Flair gives up to the Sharpshooter. I dont remember those ever working but you have to have it work once I guess.
Rating: B+. Good stuff here but it felt like they never got it into that highest gear. Definitely the match of the night that actually meant something and a third great match tonight. Brets WCW run would pretty steadily go downhill from here though other than a few matches here and there, which is impressive since they managed to screw up BRET HART.
Randy Savage vs. Lex Luger
Yep, this is the main event. Why would you have a classic for the main event when you can have THIS? Well there are two arguments there. The first is that Luger and Savage were the draws. Considering you had Bret Hart and Ric Flair in the previous match, I find that really odd. The other answer is that Hogan gets involved in this match and he has to be in the last match of the night.
I have no idea why these two are fighting but its WCW so that is perfectly normal. Tony talks about how Flair erases the memory of Dusty Rhodes. Hey Tony, maybe you would forget about if faster IF YOU SHUT UP ABOUT IT! Savage walks around to start and Liz pops Luger in the back to let Savage take over to start. Savage controls early and gets a belly to back suplex for two. We talk about Dick the Bruiser for some reason and Savage gets a back elbow for two.
Liz chokes away with Savages bandana as shes pretty awesome when shes evil. All Savage so far. Luger tries to get going again but Liz grabs his foot and the problems continue. Savage gets a double axe to Luger who is on the floor. They head into the crowd and Luger finally gets something going.
Back to the ring now and Luger hammers away with clotheslines. Forearm (which somehow isnt made of lead anymore) hits Savage and here comes Scott Hall with Hogan behind him. Hall has a chair but Hogan gets involved. Hall is knocked off the apron and in the distraction Luger gets the Rack for the submission. Somehow this was the main event. My mind is blown.
Rating: D. This was terrible and everyone knew it. This going on last was idiotic and shows another sign of how this company was in real trouble. All night long it was WCW vs. the NWO which was a feud that went on for a year and a half at this point and would eventually split into a 3 way feud as the Wolfpack debuted. Either way, bad main event that shouldnt have been a main event.
The NWO comes out for the beatdown, Sting runs out for the save, Rack for Nash, Scorpion for Hogan, WCW IS AWESOME (despite the fans liking the NWO more), show over.
Overall Rating: B+. This was a damn good show with two great matches and some other very good stuff sprinkled in. See, notice two things here also. 1. Hogan didnt wrestle. 2. Clean finishes other than in the Zbyszko match. 3. Great PPV. Now notice what came later. 1. More Hogan/NWO. 2. More screwy finishes. 3. Worse PPVs.
This was a high buyrate for a PPV in this time frame and yet Hogan didnt wrestle. DO YOU GET THE POINT WCW??? Of course they didnt because it went right back to Hogan as he would be champion again in April. WCW could have been saved and it was all there in front of them but they never got it and they died. Still though, great stuff here but dont watch the main event.
Date: January 24, 1998
Location: Hara Arena, Dayton, Ohio
Attendance: 5,486
Commentators: Tony Schiavone, Bobby Heenan, Dusty Rhodes
More back to back reviews so I can have a full series done, in this case Souled Out as Ill be doing this and 2000 back to back to get these off my list. Anyway this show never was much as far as importance goes and the card makes that pretty clear. Theres a double main event of a grudge match with Luger vs. Savage (which Ill get to later about why you could tell this company was in trouble) and Hart vs. Flair in Brets first big WCW match. Lets get to it.
This is on a Saturday if that means anything to you.
We open with a video about Nash vs. Giant which is actually happening tonight as Nash had bailed on the match at Starrcade. Both had to put up 1.5 million dollars bond to guarantee various things that dont matter. The video is about Bischoff collecting souls or something. Whatever.
The announcers run down the card while the fans chant for the Weasel. Were going to get an announcement about the world title that is vacant because WCW was incredibly stupid and managed to fuck up the unfuckupable.
Juventud Guerrera/Super Calo/Lizmark Jr/Chavo Guerrero vs. La Parka/Silver King/Psicosis/El Dandy
Im not sure who the favorites are here but Id never be one to doubt El Dandy. This is under Lucha Libre rules which means if you hit the floor thats as good as a tag. Calo vs. Psicosis to start us off. Calo gets an armdrag to send Psicosis to the floor but he comes back in. No substitution which is kind of odd but whatever. Psicosis chops away and drops an elbow on the back to take over.
Powerslam by Calo and a tilt-a-whirl slam and its off to Silver King vs. Lizmark. This is one of those matches where its nearly impossible to keep up with whats going on and that more or less isnt the point at all. Silver King gets a tornado DDT but its off to Chavo vs. El Dandy. Big monkey flip to Dandy and theyre out rather quickly.
Off to La Parka vs. Juvy now. Theyre moving in very quickly out there. They fight on the apron with La Parka falling on his face in a funny spot. Back in the ring and Guerrera gets a kick to the face and a SWEET top rope rana puts Parka on the floor. Off to Lizmark who gets a moonsault to take Juvy down. Off to Psicosis who gets rolled up. Dandy is in and gets La Magistrol for two.
Calo comes in to face Silver King but the whole thing breaks down. Tenay says he more or less has no idea whats going on. Juvy botches the hell out of a rana on Silver King but Juvy escapes and mostly hits a 450 for two. Parka gets a powerbomb on Guerrera for two. Falcon Arrow to Chavo sets up the guillotine legdrop by Psicosis. Some people are thrown to the floor so its Silver King vs. Super Calo.
LET THE DIVING BEGIN as everyone goes after everyone and there is no point at all to try to call this. The only ones left in the ring are Chavo and Psicosis with Chavo in control. Psicosis misses a charge and Chavo hits the tornado DDT (his finisher) to end this. La Parka kills them all with chairs because he feels like it. He beats up his own partners too and does his chair dance to a big reaction.
Rating: B. WOW. This is one of the most insanely fast matches youll ever see and for an opener, THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT. Was it technically sound or really even sound at all? Not in the slightest, but thats not the point here. The idea here was to just go insane and have everyone look awesome and thats what they did. Fun as hell.
Raven vs. Chris Benoit
Raven is listed at 239lbs. Thats much lighter than I would expect. The Flock is with him and the they actually come out from the entrance. Theres no Saturn here as he would start his rebellion. The Flock is barred from ringside apparently. Raven bitches about things and doesnt seem to care. This is Ravens Rules, as in No DQ.
Raven gets a baseball slide to Benoit as he comes in and we head to the floor early. Back in the ring and Benoit grabs a quick backslide for two. This is far more of a brawl than a match but Benoit can easily pull that off so it works well. Back to the floor and Raven grabs a chair. Bulldog onto the unfolded chair gets two as Benoit gets a foot on the ropes. Benoit pulls a Raven with a drop toehold onto the chair for two in a sick looking spot.
Benoit chops away and down he goes. Suplex onto the chair gets two. Benoit gets the shirt off of Raven and returns the favor of the baseball slide, sending Raven into the railing. A whip into the steps follows as Raven tries to run away. They go up the aisle and Raven is suplexed to keep Benoits advantage. Back in the ring and Benoit puts the chair on Ravens face. The Swan Dive CRACKS into the chair and both guys are out. FREAKING OW MAN! That looked incredible but DAMN it must have hurt like hell.
Somehow that only gets two. The crowd is insane here by the way. See what a great opener can get you? Northern Lights is countered by the DDT which is kind of known as Ravens finisher but not officially. Fans are totally behind Benoit here. Another DDT is countered into the Crossface and Raven .smiles while in it. That boy is not right. He passes out in the hold and were done.
Rating: B+. DAMN this was a war. These are two of the hottest openers I can remember in a very long time. Total beating from both guys here as we got incredibly physical. That swan dive is something else. Raven could have been totally awesome but instead we got more NWO. Anyway, great war here and Benoit looks like a killer.
Kidman of the Flock comes out for the beatdown but Malenko comes out for the save for no apparent reason. The whole Flock comes out but Raven is done. Benoit and Malenko look at each other and thats about it.
Cruiserweight Title: Chris Jericho vs. Rey Mysterio
Rey is champion here and Jericho is a heel. We keep hearing about how big of a heart he has. Shouldnt he see a cardiologist already? Rey has a legit bad knee here (shocking I know) and is going away after this match (not announced of course) so I think you know the ending here. Jericho tries to be a bully and gets slapped instead. Jericho runs him over with a shoulder. When do you see Jericho with a size and power advantage?
Rey gets a nice headscissors to send Jericho to the floor. He uses what would evolve into the 619 but his knee goes out in mid move. Rey locks on a chinlock which is countered for a bit but that counter is countered into a victory roll by Rey for two. Rey wants a rana to the floor but with Jericho on the apron he catches Rey and drops him throat first on the top rope while jumping to the floor. Cool counter.
Jericho gets a butterfly backbreaker and sets up the steps before heading back into the ring. Rey fights back and gets what was kind of a jumping Killswitch to take Jericho down. Baseball slide to Jerichos leg takes Jericho to the floor. Running tope con hilo into a seated senton puts Jericho down again but the knee is gone.
Rey manages to get a flapjack to Jericho to send him into the steps. West Coast Pop is broken up and the knee is wrenched all over again. Jericho goes up and Rey tries the rana which is countered into the Walls (Liontamer at the time but you get the idea). Finish was out of NOWHERE which makes me think the knee was completely destroyed. Rey would be gone until July so that knee was really messed up.
Rating: B-. A lot of that is for the knee. Rey was legitimately trying out there but there comes a point where the injury is too much to deal with. They did everything they could out there but with the knee falling apart mid match theres only so much you can do. Reys knees would never really work again for the most part.
Jericho gloats post match and beats up Mysterio with the knee brace. Cody Rhodes is smiling somewhere. He slams an anvil case into the knee which goes into the steps.
JJ Dillon and Gene are in the ring. Dillon has the vacant world title and its time for an announcement about it. Ok so in case you dont know what happened, Sting had been the Crow that didnt talk forever and Hogan had been champion more or less for 16 months. Sting finally got his shot at Hogan at Starrcade in what should have been a massacre of Hogan with Sting dominating him to win the title.
However since this is WCW, they screwed it up. Hogan more or less beat Sting up and the fans simply did not accept this. The whole thing was rejected and the audience steadily began to head over to WWF. The problem was simple: WCW had built this up for over a year and the fans wanted to see something.
Ive heard the excuse of Sting was high or something when they got there, but if he can at least perform at all, Hogan should not have had a chance. Hogan danced around out there and Sting looked like a fool. I still stand by my statement that this was the bullet that took WCW down. Read the Starrcade 97 review for the full details.
So anyway, the title was held up at the first Thunder and theres a rematch. Unfortunately its not tonight as that would be giving too much credit to the fans I guess, so if you REALLY want to see Hogan vs. Sting, BUY SUPERBRAWL!!!! Oh wait Im getting ahead of myself. Dillon brings out Roddy Piper who was interim commissioner and was consulted on this. He hasnt been seen since the terrible main event of Halloween Havoc.
Ah apparently he made Hogan vs. Piper in the first place. He talks about everyone involved including Scott Hall who won World War 3 and is the official #1 contender. Piper calls out Sting, Hall and Hogan. Sting comes first and then the others do as well but along with Bischoff. Naturally they take forever.
Hall is #1 contender to the world champion but we have no world champion. Piper says that Hogan has a claim to the title but he doesnt get it. The rematch is made for Superbrawl and Hall would eventually get the title match at Uncensored (albeit in the second to last match as Hogan vs. Savage was the main event). In other words, it took five months for him to win his shot and then actually get it. Hall walks away and is like whatever. Sting chases Hogan and Bischoff off. This took over ten minutes somehow.
TV Title: Rick Martel vs. Booker T
Booker has the title here. No one is really sure why Martel came back as he was old and not the Model or anything but just a guy in a leather jacket that youve likely heard of. They feel each other out to start us off with both guys getting two. Im still trying to figure out why Martel is getting a push like this. Hes certainly not bad and could wrestle a perfectly watchable match at this point (he destroyed his knee at the next PPV and had to retire) but its still a really weird pick.
Booker works on the arm for a bit. Suplex and a side kick get two and were back to the arm. Pretty much all Booker so far as he gets a hook kick for two. Martel makes Booker miss but gets caught in an armdrag and its the armbar again. Leap frog by Martel is countered by what might be a headbutt to the balls. Martel might have been faking it and suckers Booker in to hammer away, almost doing a mid-match heel turn.
Off to the chinlock now by Martel who is all evil now. Booker hammers away but a spinebuster takes him down for two. More back work by Martel, this time in the form of an abdominal stretch. Booker tries a comeback but misses a dropkick. Quebec (Boston) Crab goes on and Booker is in trouble. Oh never mind as he grabs a rope. This is a pretty generic although decent match. Axe kick out of nowhere gets no cover as Booker goes up. The Harlem Hangover ends this. Its a front flip legdrop if youre unfamiliar.
Rating: C+. Not bad but just kind of generic like I said. Martel was ok but he wasnt interesting in the slightest. He never could get anywhere with the comeback due to his knee injury but this was as good as it was going to get I think. Could have been on Nitro though, which is rarely a good sign.
Post match Martel hands Booker the belt. After Booker leaves Saturn pops up to beat up Martel. Booker would face Martel at the next PPV and then face Saturn immediately thereafter.
Scott Hall vs. Larry Zbyszko
This is the culmination of some weird AWA angle that no one cared about but it resulted in Larry having a few matches. Hall has the soon dead Louie Spicolli with him. Dusty wonders who is coming out with Larry, and to the shock of no one, its Dusty himself. Bobby thinks the fans at home are standing over this pick. Uh, why? Also who thought purple and gold/yellow were good signature colors for a wrestling company?
The announcers touch on the AWA stuff a bit but never say any specifics. Larry controls early with amateur/mat stuff. Heenan talks about Ted DiBiase for no apparent reason. The other announcers point out that he has the wrong person and Heenan ADMITS HES WRONG!!! Theyre taking their sweet time out here with nothing going on at all really. Larry gets an abdominal stretch which is countered by a hiptoss for the biggest spot of the match so far.
The hold goes right back on and its the same counter. Larry goes for the neck so Hall gets to the ropes. Big old right hand to Larry puts Larry down and Spicolli adds in a shot. Cue Dusty to something resembling a good reaction going after Spicolli. This is rather boring so far and the fans seem to realize that. The fans chant for Larry and he starts the comeback. Hall goes for the legs as this is really boring. Also, this is the #1 contender remember.
LOUD Larry sucks chant starts up with Tony more or less saying the fans have no idea what theyre talking about. A Hall sucks chant starts up so Tony is all happy. The dueling chants begin as Hall gets the fall away slam. Oh and Hall/Nash are the tag champions here. A backdrop gets Larry out of the Outsider Edge and heres the comeback again.
Larry, the old man, pounds Hall down and shoves the referee which lets Hall come back. Somehow that isnt a DQ but since when does WCW keep their DQ rules the same for more than one show in a row? Larry accidently kicks the referee and Hall takes Zbyszko down. Larry plays possum on Hall and gets his guillotine choke on him. Spicolli comes in and punches Larry but THAT isnt enough for the DQ.
Dusty comes in to a big reaction to hammer away and do something that I think is supposed to be dancing. He drills Louie with a bunch of elbows to the cranium and joins the NWO by hitting Larry and taking off his shirt to reveal the black and white. Does this really surprise anyone? The big beatdown leads to the DQ and Tony and Bobby are disgusted.
Rating: D. This was whatever really. No one, and I mean no one, cared about Dusty turning here. He wouldnt be around that long at all as he would head over to ECW and then come back in like a year and a half. Spicolli was supposed to fight Zbyszko at Superbrawl but he wouldnt be alive in 30 days. Weak match here and a waste of Hall who was being pushed at this point.
We recap the segment and Tony hates it. The fans still think Larry sucks, proving that the whole thing failed.
Scott Norton/Buff Bagwell/Konnan vs. Ray Traylor/Steiner Brothers
Traylor is the Big Boss Man. Tony walks off set for a bit so Tenay comes out to give us Tenay and Heenan on commentary. Ok dude, EVERYONE has joined the NWO and this is supposed to be a big deal. The Steiner team has DiBiase with them and the NWO has Vincent which is kind of cool. Scott Steiner is teasing a heel turn as he has been doing for about the last six months. He would finally turn the next month.
Tony comes back and bitches about Dusty. Yep this is going to go on forever isnt it? Scott Steiner (damn I have to specify in this match dont I) wants to start but his partners wont let him because they know he wont tag out. Buff and Rick officially start. We talk about Dusty a lot and completely ignore the match at hand, which makes sense as theres nothing to this match anyway.
Buff destroys him to start until a powerslam or something like one gets Rick out of trouble. Off to Traylor who hammers away. Two minutes in and Tony stops posting in his Livejournal about how much he hates Dusty now. Basically this is a handicap match since Rick and Traylor wont tag Scott in due to him being a whiny bitch as I said. I know Im repeating a lot of stuff but theres nothing to say here otherwise.
Rick rips away at Buffs face and Norton finally comes in. Its weird that the team wrestling with two guys had made more tags than the team with three. Traylor hammers away on Norton and beats on Buff too. The numbers catch up with them and Heenan has a Freudian slip by talking about Dusty again. For the love of tar shut up about him! Konnan vs. Traylor at the moment in this boring match.
Tony announces again that hes going to stop thinking about it. Naturally it takes him 15 seconds to stop talking about how hes going to stop talking about it. Traylor and Norton collide and everyone is down. Scott Steiner hasnt been in yet at all. Konnan gets a DDT to take down Rick as Tony tries to say Dusty is the reason the crowd is dead. Well at least hes funny about it.
Rick gets beaten up on the floor as the VERY ANGRY Scott Steiner wont even get off the apron to help. Hes kind of being a dick when you think about it. The problem is that we keep seeing the same combinations of five guys that arent interesting in the slightest. Scott Steiner gets over next to Traylor on the same side which isnt something you see often. They argue about it because they feel like annoying me.
Chinlock by Buff to Rick and Scott Steiner continues to be annoying as he wants a tag. Konnan beats on Rick for awhile as we need this to end or at least do something already. The fans are bored out of their minds and the announcers keep blaming it on Dusty instead of a terribly bad 6 man tag. For a nice change of pace, Norton beats on Rick for awhile now. This beating segment has been going on for like 4 minutes now.
Rolling dropkick by Konnan but Rick FINALLY breaks off some offense and everyone is down. Scott Steiner and Traylor tag in at the same time so no one is sure whats going on. The future Big Poppa Pump shoves the referee and gets tagged in .somehow. Steiner Screwdriver (look that insane move up) to Konnan ends this.
Rating: D-. WAY too long here with Rick being in there forever. This was boring beyond belief and the crowd died from it. The announcers didnt care at all and they talked about the Dusty turn the entire turn. Steiner would FINALLY turn next month and then do nothing of note for about six months due to Goldberg getting the focus as he should have.
Scott Steiner and Bagwell have some weird moment post match for even more foreshadowing.
Giant vs. Kevin Nash
This is the match that was supposed to happen for months but Nash didnt show up at Starrcade because he didnt want to lose to Giant. Remember that. After all the months of waiting, they lock up. Riveting stuff so far. Hogan and Bischoff are here with Nash because Hogan put up the 1.5 million dollars required to get Nash here. The deal was Nash had to ensure hed be here (think about that for a minute) and Giant had to put it up to ensure he wouldnt touch Nash. Riveting stuff.
Giant beats on him for awhile and Nash bails. Bobby literally whispers things into Tonys ear and Tony gets annoyed at him for it. Giant chokes away in the corner with the foot and its more or less all future Big Show. Nash busts out a freaking leap frog of all things and puts Giant on the floor. NASH JUMPS OVER THE TOP ONTO GIANT AND GETS CAUGHT IN THE AIR!!! Think about that for a few seconds. Once your minds are done getting blown and you towel off, Ill be here waiting.
Giant throws Nash in and Bischoff distracts the referee, allowing Hogan to DRILL Giant in the back with a chair. Giant makes it back in at about 9.8 and here comes Nash. We need a name for the spot where a guy is in position for a 619 and a guy gets a running start to jump on his back/neck. Giant shrugs the offense off and takes Nash down with a clothesline.
Both guys try big boots at the same time and theyre both down. Nash hammers away with his usual big power spots but walks into an atomic drop and some headbutts to take him down. Big boot puts Nash down as does a slam. Bischoff pops up and gets a chokeslam as a late Christmas present. Nash gets coffee from .somewhere and throws it in Giants eyes. Nash then tries the Jackknife and drops Giant ON HIS HEAD, looking like he killed him dead to end it. The crowd is completely silent after that for a second as that was terrifying. Giant would be out about a month because of it.
Rating: D. Well some of the spots were cool but giant vs. giant matches get kind of dull after awhile. The powerbomb at the end is absolutely terrifying though. Naturally they show the replay twice. One other thing to note here: Nash won the match. In other words, he avoided jobbing by not showing up and got to win a month later. And people said they didnt have stroke backstage.
Bret Hart vs. Ric Flair
Basically just an Im better than you match. Somehow this is Brets in ring debut for WCW. How in the world did they wait this long, AND WHY IN THE WORLD WAS THIS NOT AT STARRCADE??? Oh thats right: we needed a boring six man on that show! Bret grabs a headlock and eventually takes him to the mat with it. This has a ton of time for it and Heenan wastes some of it by talking about Flairs sex life.
Flair is only 48 here and is still rather good in the ring. My goodness did he go downhill during the Evolution years. Bret grabs a figure four for a bit but a rope is grabbed quickly. Suplex gets two and were back to that headlock. Bret slaps Flair down and the blonde haired one takes a break on the floor. Back in and Bret throws Flair around a bit and its back to the headlock.
A quick thumb to the eye and down goes the Canadian. Hart grabs a sleeper out of nowhere but gets reversed into a belly to back almost immediately. Flair gets a low blow in and of course Heenan defends it. Heenan and Flair are hilarious. Tony: You know youre an idiot. Off to a chinlock by Naitch which doesnt last long. Flair chokes away and is clearly the heel in this match.
Chops vs. punches is won by the puncher and I think you know who that is. Swinging neckbreaker by Bret gives us a little breather. Bret gets a bulldog for two. Well he used to be a cowboy so he has to have a bulldog every now and then I guess. Bret goes after the knee as is his custom. The figure four around the post doesnt work as we hear about Jim Neidhart for no apparent reason.
Back in and Flair unleashes the knee crusher. You have to admit they know their formula if nothing else. Another knee crusher and Bret is in trouble. Bret gets an enziguri out of nowhere to put Flair down. Good back and forth stuff here. Bret tries another figure four but gets caught in a rollup for two. And theres the chop block and Bret is right back down again.
Theres the REAL Figure Four (by the REAL Worlds Champion for you old school fans out there) and Bret grabs the referee. The crowd doesnt seem to care here which is kind of weird. Flair slaps Bret in the face because thats always worked so well for him over the years.
Bret reverses which stays on for all of a second. Flair goes up and its apparent that Flair suffers from extreme memory loss as he continues to try thing after thing and it never works at all. Theres the Russian leg sweep by the Canadian to the Flairian (like hes actually human) but Flair pops up and chops away in the corner.
Hart takes the straps down and is all like BRING IT ON! Bret hammers away in the corner and Flair is in trouble. Atomic drop out of the corner by Ric is in trouble. Here are the five moves of doom and amazingly enough, they actually work and Flair gives up to the Sharpshooter. I dont remember those ever working but you have to have it work once I guess.
Rating: B+. Good stuff here but it felt like they never got it into that highest gear. Definitely the match of the night that actually meant something and a third great match tonight. Brets WCW run would pretty steadily go downhill from here though other than a few matches here and there, which is impressive since they managed to screw up BRET HART.
Randy Savage vs. Lex Luger
Yep, this is the main event. Why would you have a classic for the main event when you can have THIS? Well there are two arguments there. The first is that Luger and Savage were the draws. Considering you had Bret Hart and Ric Flair in the previous match, I find that really odd. The other answer is that Hogan gets involved in this match and he has to be in the last match of the night.
I have no idea why these two are fighting but its WCW so that is perfectly normal. Tony talks about how Flair erases the memory of Dusty Rhodes. Hey Tony, maybe you would forget about if faster IF YOU SHUT UP ABOUT IT! Savage walks around to start and Liz pops Luger in the back to let Savage take over to start. Savage controls early and gets a belly to back suplex for two. We talk about Dick the Bruiser for some reason and Savage gets a back elbow for two.
Liz chokes away with Savages bandana as shes pretty awesome when shes evil. All Savage so far. Luger tries to get going again but Liz grabs his foot and the problems continue. Savage gets a double axe to Luger who is on the floor. They head into the crowd and Luger finally gets something going.
Back to the ring now and Luger hammers away with clotheslines. Forearm (which somehow isnt made of lead anymore) hits Savage and here comes Scott Hall with Hogan behind him. Hall has a chair but Hogan gets involved. Hall is knocked off the apron and in the distraction Luger gets the Rack for the submission. Somehow this was the main event. My mind is blown.
Rating: D. This was terrible and everyone knew it. This going on last was idiotic and shows another sign of how this company was in real trouble. All night long it was WCW vs. the NWO which was a feud that went on for a year and a half at this point and would eventually split into a 3 way feud as the Wolfpack debuted. Either way, bad main event that shouldnt have been a main event.
The NWO comes out for the beatdown, Sting runs out for the save, Rack for Nash, Scorpion for Hogan, WCW IS AWESOME (despite the fans liking the NWO more), show over.
Overall Rating: B+. This was a damn good show with two great matches and some other very good stuff sprinkled in. See, notice two things here also. 1. Hogan didnt wrestle. 2. Clean finishes other than in the Zbyszko match. 3. Great PPV. Now notice what came later. 1. More Hogan/NWO. 2. More screwy finishes. 3. Worse PPVs.
This was a high buyrate for a PPV in this time frame and yet Hogan didnt wrestle. DO YOU GET THE POINT WCW??? Of course they didnt because it went right back to Hogan as he would be champion again in April. WCW could have been saved and it was all there in front of them but they never got it and they died. Still though, great stuff here but dont watch the main event.