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So, Apparently People Want Conversation In The Cage...

ZeroVX

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Well, the RIP Kanyon thread is locked, so let's try it again here!

"Should we feel empathy for drug abusers?"

Don't take that sentence for anything more than it already is, and maybe this thread won't degenerate into another flame-fest.

...aw, who am I trying to kid?

Anyway, in all honesty, I agree with Sly and Armbar on this subject. The people in question chose to use drugs, for whatever reason they had, be it peer pressure or curiousity or whatever. The consequences are no one's fault but their own.

Let's at least attempt to keep this civil, hm?
 
Did you ever read that article on the main page, by Kevin Kelly? He summed it up pretty well in there. I'll see if I can find it.. Will report back in a bit
 
Found it.

Saving Professional Wrestlers from Themselves
By Kevin Kelly

Lance Cade died at 29. Tired of writing about dead wrestlers, I finally have thought of something that might work. Better than rehab… better than anything. I remembered a story that Artie Lange told on the Howard Stern Show and thought it might work.

Artie battled the demons of opium addiction throughout his time on the show and he talked about how legendary Eagles member Joe Walsh stayed off heroin… he had “Smokey”. Listed as Walsh’s personal tour assistant, Smokey Wendell keeps Walsh clean and sober and alive. What does Smokey do? Walsh doesn’t do anything without Smokey knowing about it and approving. Has Walsh stumbled? Probably… most addicts do. They say you’re not in recovery until you fall.

But the bottom line is Joe Walsh is still alive because he has “Smokey”. Ironic that Artie Lange talked about needing his own “Smokey” but was unable (or unwilling) to find one before he nearly took his own life, deep in the grip of his addictions.

Would “Smokey” have saved Lance Cade? Or Umaga? Or Steve Bradley? Or any of the others? Or the ones who aren’t dead yet? We don’t know because no one travels with personal assistants. That’s what I’m suggesting. WWE needs to hire babysitters… professionals who are trained to say “no” and slap the pills out of the hand of the user.

Rehab doesn’t work. Firing them doesn’t work. I know… this idea sucks and it will never work. But I am sick of it and out of answers. Maybe it would work? Who knows? But if I was Vince, I would fly to meet Joe Walsh and Smokey… to see how they make it work. Saying that you have a Wellness Policy and offer rehab is all well and good but wrestlers are still dying. Maybe wrestlers need their own “Smokey”?
 
Yeah, when we were saying we were saying we want conversation, we didnt mean that we wanted you to start one.

And I'm pretty sure that this thread was tailor-made for the Wrestling Spam Zone, and if someone who's been here as long as you have and yet still making that mistake proves the above.
 
Yeah, when we were saying we were saying we want conversation, we didnt mean that we wanted you to start one.

People did say it, though.

And I'm pretty sure that this thread was tailor-made for the Wrestling Spam Zone, and if someone who's been here as long as you have and yet still making that mistake proves the above.

The only thing this has to do with wrestling is that the idea originated from a thread about a dead wrestler. And that it's on a wrestling forum.
 
Zero, I could be your social worker, and they could pay me to make conversation, and I still would avoid you like the plague.
 
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Who gives a shit? Something tells me addiction's a humbling experience, so maybe addicts are a good thing; it makes for less judgmental and priggish assholes.
 

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