Slyfox's Weekly Topic of the Week

[Slyfox696]

I'm sure I could have come up with a better name for the thread...oh well.

Well, considering I prefer talking about TNA much more than WWE, I've decided that I'm going to post a new topic each week in the TNA forum. Of course, by saying that it is going to be a weekly occurrence, probably dooms it to be a one time thing, but we'll give it a shot anyways.


Topic:

I feel the best way to start this off is to bring a discussion on one of the IWC's favorite workers in Samoa Joe.

It seems very clear that, at some point, TNA will put their World title on Samoa Joe, and have him be the leader of the company. So, how would you like to see him win the title?

Include: Show, location, circumstances, and opponent(s). Include any other information you desire as well.

 

[dirtyshubb]

I hope that Joe does get the title as he is the person TNA need to show what sort of talent they posses, just not yet! What i would like is to have Cage win the KOTM match, he is IMO the best heel at the moment and has shown he can have some really great matches.
After this i feel they could maybe have Joe feud with AJ, everyone knows what these 2 can do and could be the start of Joe working his way through the coalition. After this have a decent length feud with Cage, not only have they shown they can put a very good match on together but they are IMO the 2 best workers on the mic in TNA. I feel Cage should also do something really bad to Joe, get personal, i mean thats when Joe is at his best when he has been pushed over the edge. All this should lead to a Joe win at Bound for Glory which would be the perfect time (hopefully Spike and TNA would have sorted the 2 hour show by then) and a huge win which would really give Joe the kick start his first title run deserves.

 

[Dj Martyn]

I think they should slap the title on Joe Asap...

King of the mountain, would be the obvious choice, have Joe just dominate which would launch him forward, although like DirtyShubb mentioned above having Cage win and a heated Joe vs Cage feud would add to the value of the win. I just hope they dont throw the title on Angle at KOTM it would be too soon.

Ideal situation for joe to win the title would be Against AJ at Bound for glory in a straight one on one match that went for 30 minutes and ended with a top rope Samoan Driver. There, perfect.

 

[FTWChamp]

I think they should slap the title on Joe Asap...

King of the mountain, would be the obvious choice, have Joe just dominate which would launch him forward, although like DirtyShubb mentioned above having Cage win and a heated Joe vs Cage feud would add to the value of the win. I just hope they dont throw the title on Angle at KOTM it would be too soon.

Ideal situation for joe to win the title would be Against AJ at Bound for glory in a straight one on one match that went for 30 minutes and ended with a top rope Samoan Driver. There, perfect.

Seeing as how A.J. Styles is my favorite wrestler I would like to see him win the title....but I like both of your opinions on this issue.I think that Joe should get a title reign before Styles gets another reign and I do think that Joe should win the title right away at Slammiversary....but the idea of him going through the Coalition and having him chase Cage for sometime also has its upside. If they do this I think that opens up alot of feuds leading up to Bound for Glory. Since Abyss will be feuding with Ricky Banderas, more than likely, I don't see him going through the Coalition like it was previously reported.

So after Slammiversary you could see the main event and mid-card picture playing out something like this:

1.) Banderas is going to be at the tapings after Slammiversary. I see him attacking Abyss, with Mitchell at his side. This leads up to a lengthy, gory feud between the two. I could also see Sting helping Abyss and Christopher Daniels helping Banderas to add to their respective feuds.

2.) Somoa Joe is somehow screwed out of his world title opportunity in the KOTM match and seeks revenge against the Christian Coalition. I could see Joe first going up against Tomko and feuding through Victory Road. At that point he will cleanly beat Tomko and again ask for a shot at Christian.

3.) Christian again dodges Joe and puts him up against A.J. Styles. At this time the Coalition gets very personal with Joe i.e. when Angle attacked Joe's "girlfriend". Something along those lines but better. A.J. and Joe feud through Hard Justice, setting up a classic between the two.

4.) Christian in the mean-time can go up against another main eventer, hopefully not Kurt Angle, hopefully Jeff Jarrett instead. Jarrett puts Christian over through Hard Justice and all the while toes the line of getting very personal with Jarrett (not mentioning his wife, God knows we don't need another Eddie Guererro moment in wrestling), but instead going along the lines of him insulting Jarrett that he's taken his eye off the prize and he is not focused on wrestling. That's why he is going to end the legend of Jarrett in TNA, that sort of thing.

5.) Once Jarrett and Christian's feud concludes, Styles and Joe's feud can continue. The night after Hard Justice, Cornette could announce a triple threat match between Christian/A.J. Styles/Samoa Joe at Bound for Glory. It could be played off by Cornette saying he wants to see if the Coalition can make it through this match intact, something along those lines. A rift starts between Christian and Styles but they stay on the same page leading into the pay-per-view.

6.) This all leads up to the triple threat match at Bound for Glory. They could make it a classic will all the talent that will be in the ring. Also, this would give them a couple of options. Creative could either a.) keep Christian and Styles on the same page, making Joe's win even that more impressive or b.) continue to show a rift between the two, setting up a very good feud between the two over a number one contender's spot.

7.) This course of action would give Joe his first world title, possibly around the same time as TNA is getting its two hour deal and also could set up Styles for a number one contender's spot for Joe's title. Setting up another classic feud between the two.

I know this is a bit lengthy but I wanted to write this out and see how it looked on paper. Hopefully Joe will win the title right away but if not it could open up some great possibilities for TNA heading into the summer.

 

[dirtyshubb]

I think TNA really need to take some time and effort leading up to Bound for Glory, i mean if they did sort of go along our idea then it could really produce some fantastic moments and really bring some credibility to the new Belts, as well as Joe's first title run. If done right it could really help TNA progress with their show and fan base.

 

[Slyfox696]

I would like to see Samoa Joe win the title at Bound For Glory 2008. As I've said before elsewhere, I think that BFG 2007 is way too soon for Joe to win it, as it has the potential to miss out on what can only add to Joe's historic victory.

Emotion.

Right now, people want Joe to win the title, but few are really emotionally invested in Joe winning the title. They haven't felt his heartache at not winning. They haven't felt his desire or the sacrifices he's made to win the title. I think that handing Joe the title 2 and a half years in, will miss on that important factor, the one that adds to that historic moment Joe wins the TNA title.

So, Bound For Glory 2008 against Sting for Joe's first TNA title win. Have it be a face vs. face confrontation, and make it a "passing of the torch" type win. And, I think the show should be in St. Louis because...well, I won't lie. Because I want to go and watch it.

 

[Uncle Sam]

I'd like to see Joe win the title at this year's Bound For Glory or Slammiversary. For both, it's because they're significant TNA events where they need to make a statement by putting the strap on a "TNA guy". Having Joe as champion would say, "Look, we do have confidence in our own product", instead of "We want to be like WWE!". Really, Joe would make the best first TNA champion next to AJ Styles, he stands for everything that TNA should be - good wrestling without the presence of boresome, 7 foot bodybuilders. If it were at BFG, I'd like his opponent to be AJ Styles, just so it shows TNA can survive without the presence of an ex-WWE guy in their main event.

 

[FTWChamp]

I'd like to see Joe win the title at this year's Bound For Glory or Slammiversary. For both, it's because they're significant TNA events where they need to make a statement by putting the strap on a "TNA guy". Having Joe as champion would say, "Look, we do have confidence in our own product", instead of "We want to be like WWE!". Really, Joe would make the best first TNA champion next to AJ Styles, he stands for everything that TNA should be - good wrestling without the presence of boresome, 7 foot bodybuilders. If it were at BFG, I'd like his opponent to be AJ Styles, just so it shows TNA can survive without the presence of an ex-WWE guy in their main event.

I'm a big A.J. style's mark so of course I would love to see both of them go one on one at Bound for Glory. I am just worried that the writers have put Styles in such a position that it would be hard "creatively" to get him there in the span of four months. Now that does sound sad to say but it's true. Right now they have Style's as Christian's paranoid, scared side-kick. Now of course they could easily have Styles revert back to his old-self but I just don't see them doing so quick enough to give him the title and then to defend it against Joe at BFG. I would love to see it, just the way the TNA product has been as of late, I can't imagine them rushing something like that. It would be great to see them battle for the title at BFG though. I guess we can all hope and dream.

 

[Shocky]

I have no problem with TNA slapping the belt on Joe at any point right now. The man has earned it, and should be a world heavyweight champion. However, I'm with Slyfox on this one, no sooner the 2008 I would put the belt on him, preferably either Bound for Glory or Slammiversary.

I would like to see TNA put the belt on someone, probably Cage, and keep the belt on him for a good near year long title reign. I would love to see Angle with this spot, but we all know he's wanting to test his strength in the world of M.M.A. Cage would be perfect. Have a year long reign were Christian's Peeps, much like the n.w.o., make sure that belt stays on him. Have Joe go through a year long gauntlet, and finally get his shot.

The main thing that is missing right now is emotion. Sure people want Joe to be champion, I'm one of them, but we haven't had in a long time, ravenous fans coming to a fever pitch for a guy to get his belt. As far as I'm concerned , TNA has never had that kind of guy. Look how emotional and special it was when just last year, guys like Edge and RVD won the strap for the first time. That crowd in Albany came unglued for a heel in Edge to win his strap, and it goes without saying how rabid the crowd at ONS II was.

Let it build, don't get into to big of a rush to slap the title on him.

 

[Dj Martyn]

I have no problem with TNA slapping the belt on Joe at any point right now. The man has earned it, and should be a world heavyweight champion. However, I'm with Slyfox on this one, no sooner the 2008 I would put the belt on him, preferably either Bound for Glory or Slammiversary.

I would like to see TNA put the belt on someone, probably Cage, and keep the belt on him for a good near year long title reign. I would love to see Angle with this spot, but we all know he's wanting to test his strength in the world of M.M.A. Cage would be perfect. Have a year long reign were Christian's Peeps, much like the n.w.o., make sure that belt stays on him. Have Joe go through a year long gauntlet, and finally get his shot.

The main thing that is missing right now is emotion. Sure people want Joe to be champion, I'm one of them, but we haven't had in a long time, ravenous fans coming to a fever pitch for a guy to get his belt. As far as I'm concerned , TNA has never had that kind of guy. Look how emotional and special it was when just last year, guys like Edge and RVD won the strap for the first time. That crowd in Albany came unglued for a heel in Edge to win his strap, and it goes without saying how rabid the crowd at ONS II was.

Let it build, don't get into to big of a rush to slap the title on him.

Great point the emotion involved in keeping the title from joe and having him struggle to fight for it, would be immense for a joe victory at next years BFG. Although i dont know if i would agree with a Year long cage title run....

Cage is deff the man in terms of charisma to be TNA's main player for now. But i would personally like to see AJ get the title, just think who AJ cant have a good match with...and think of all the challengers that would be obvious choices for pitfalls on his way to losing to Joe next year...

Cage, Daniels, Rhyno, Jarrett, Angle...Sting...Chris harris...i mean there is only Abyss that i can see AJ not been too matched with in the ring, in terms of ,but then again it would pave the way for a David vs Goliath type bout #9like they have had in the past).

 

[Slyfox696]

In a surprising development, I actually have posted a new Weekly Topic of the Week. Unusual if you know anything about me.

This week's topic is going to deal in a hypothetical.


If TNA had the chance to sign John Cena tomorrow, for an annual salary of $1 million dollars, should they do it?


You can look at this from any perspective you desire. You may look at it from an in-ring perspective, a business perspective, or just an individual preference perspective. Keep in mind, that there are more things to remember than simply Cena's current in-ring work, whether you like his matches or you don't.

 

[brahma62]

i think they should jump right on it. His marketability would only add to what TNA is continue to build right now. He's entertaining on the mic and put with the right wrestler he could put on a pretty good match. With all the revenue that WWE is making off of him, TNA would get that revenue and wwe would plummet in sales

 

[Don Killuminati]

That's a good question. I'm torn between if the marketability and them growing is worth having to watch him suck in the ring. But if I was in their shoes I would I'd just probably have him be taught by the better wrestlers in TNA how to put on a better match. TNA has been a show that has had more quality wrestling than WWE and if they signed him and really worked to make him a better wrestler it would work well. But if they signed him and he stayed horrible in the ring I'd probably stop watching TNA (I stopped watching WWE regularly because of Cena). Personally if they signed him tomorrow I would be mad though. Unless they worked on his in-ring skills he wouldn't help much but attract little kids to TNA which I really don't want because we don't need them applying to kids in TNA to.

But overall here's my analysis on it:

Business standpoint - It would be good to get more people to watch but I'd have better wrestlers teach him or maybe just send him to a wrestling school for a while. And probably change his gimmick.

Personal Preference - I wouldn't like them to sign him. I hate his matches, I don't think he is that great on the mic and it doesn't make up for his matches. If they mad him a better wrestler eventually I would be ok with it but I don't see him getting better so I wouldn't like it.

 

[Lost]

No, simply look at Angle who is just as big of a name as Cena if not bigger and the impact he made has not been great enough to slap a cool million dollar deal down for Cena not to mention his wrestling skill are limited. I am not saying he would not bring in any rating but it would not be enough to justify a huge amount of money like that. I think they could take that million dollars signs some free agents and build them into stars there is no one out there that will be an instant solution the company will grow but as it grows they need to build up some stars like they did AJ Styles, Daniels and Joe. No matter if its tomorrow or the next day I don't feel Cena is a smart signing for TNA it would cost them far too much for what would be in my opinion be a minimal ratings jump.

So from a Business and Personal preference I would give this a no

 

[caifanes]

I agree with you Lost.

TNA don't need more famous superstars or more ex - WWE, they need to develop their product, develop their wrestlers, look Angle for example or Sting, Sting was the man in WCW one of the "money makers" I think, also Angle in WWE, and now what ?, I think they don't sell like they use to sell in the past, but that part corresponds to TNA.

With that $1 million I would do a lot of things with TNA, merchandise, advertising, better booking, cameras, lighting, change the damn escenario from the Impact Zone, it sucks.

But no, hiring more ex-WWE isn't the option.

 

[Dj Martyn]

I would go for the no.

Cena has drawing ability, but a lack of wrestling ability and the fact that he is rather despised in many a circle would make it a bad option for TNA. Bringing him in for a quest spot may be worth it for a "Cena in TNA" moment, but not a full deal.

There is always the fact that he has this beef with Ron Killings, which would cause a locker room rift, and i would rather have the truth than cena in TNA.

No, simply look at Angle who is just as big of a name as Cena if not bigger and the impact he made has not been great enough

The problem with angle is, Angle is a great famous wrestler, not a big sports entertainer. Angle is a great draw for wrestling fans, not sports ent fans. Most people who were already a fan of angles in ring were already watching TNA.

 

[Shocky]

From a marketability and big name standpoint, I would say yes. Cena, like him or not, is a huge name and would probably bring, not over whelming, but maybe a nice little bump in ratings with him.

If I'm in TNA, hell no I don't want John Cena in my company. First, you're adding another WWE "retread". Second, Cena can't carry a TNA style match. He would like too out of place in that environment. Third, you're going to piss off your loyal fanbase and Wrestlers that are TNA guys. There is a reason why people watch TNA, one of those reasons, on TNA "You Can't See Cena".

I think the majority of this is going to be, corporate would say yes to this move. The wrestlers and loyal fans of the company would say, oh hell no.

 

[Slyfox696]

There is always the fact that he has this beef with Ron Killings, which would cause a locker room rift, and i would rather have the truth than cena in TNA.

If Cena was coming to TNA, and Killings didn't like it, I think it would take all of 15 seconds for TNA to wave bye-bye to Killings.

If I'm in TNA, hell no I don't want John Cena in my company. First, you're adding another WWE "retread". Second, Cena can't carry a TNA style match. He would like too out of place in that environment. Third, you're going to piss off your loyal fanbase and Wrestlers that are TNA guys. There is a reason why people watch TNA, one of those reasons, on TNA "You Can't See Cena".

First, if John Cena wanted to leave WWE and come to TNA, he wouldn't be a WWE retread. He would be the greatest coup in TNA history. A retread is someone who isn't wanted by the WWE, which certainly would not be the case with the WWE's number one guy. I mean, you wouldn't call Bret Hart in WCW a retread would you?

I think John Cena could hang just fine in a TNA style match. He's not an X-Division guy, so he's going to be going against guys like Sting, and Jarrett and Angle and Christian etc. We already know that he can go with Angle and Christian. Also, imagine a Joe vs. Cena feud. It would be off the charts.

And, I think a lot of TNA fans might not like it at first, but TNA fans are generally going to remain loyal to the product. They are not going to have a mass exodus because Cena is there. However, like you said, on the business end, Cena is going to bring a lot of fans to TNA, and is going to boost their merchandising department immensely. Most TNA fans would stay, and Cena would bring more than enough to make up for those that didn't.

I think the majority of this is going to be, corporate would say yes to this move. The wrestlers and loyal fans of the company would say, oh hell no.

Maybe the most die-hard smarks would say no to Cena, but I think a lot of wrestling fans wouldn't mind him in TNA. And, there really is no basis for saying that the TNA wrestlers would say no. John Cena in TNA would benefit everyone. I think, with the possible exception of Ron Killings (who started this with his cheap shots of Cena), the TNA locker room would embrace the hiring of Cena.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Of cause they should. Cena is the biggest name in wrestling at the moment. Despite what people think of him. TNA would be stupid to not try and get his services, if they were to become available.

Kurt Angle was a big star. But he was no John Cena.

While Cena is not as big a star as The Rock or Austin were he's at the toip of the company like they were.

Angle was not. Angle is at the same league of The Undertake & HHH. Incredibly popular. But not nor never will be, the biggest star in the company. And before people say differently HHH has never been the biggest star in WWE. Not even for a few months.

If Cena was to go to TNA he would bring over all the publicity that WWE have spent years trying to get for him. He would still be the star of The Marine. Nobody will ever take away the amount of hype that was behind that film. They didn't hype WWE Films. They hyped John Cena in a film.

A million dollars for Cena is nothing. 5 million would be a better offer for somebody of Cena's stature.

 

[Big Ace]

TNA would probably use Cena as a non-wrestler of sorts. When I say that, I mean it as in he'd be used for promos and hype videos to promote TNA on iMPACT but he'd only wrestle at PPV's and etc. They'd treat him as if he was a movie star or something of that nature, because as much as I hate what he does in the ring, he has a somewhat large fanbase. Then again, I'm not sure if Cena fans would be into the TNA style of wrestling, because it's not exactly a grand spectacle like WWE.

Like many have said, TNA signing Cena would give them a bit of a bump and it'd probably help them get the two hours from Spike, but in the long run, it could hurt them financially. 1 million dollars is a lot of money, and TNA really doesn't need that. I think they're actually being over-streched with guys like Angle, Sting, and Cage taking up the money. There may be a lot of sacrifices that people are not willing to make, such as releasing some X-Division stars, and mostly everyone in the locker room getting a paycut. I actually would say no. People should get tired of Cena eventually.

 

[Shocky]

Like I said, I think corporate would love it, but I still have a hard time thinking that TNA fans would accept it. It's a different style of wrestling, and different direction as well. I would equate this to Shawn Michaels jumping ship in 1996 to WCW. Shawn Michaels was the biggest name in the company, but the people in the south probably wouldn't have given two shits about Michaels in their company.

It's like Bret Hart going to WCW. Ok, you got him, what are you going to do with him. Harts in ring style was so different than most of the guys on the roster, especially in WCW. You had a guy that could put on 5 star quality matchups, but maybe only two people worthy enough to be in the ring with him. It didn't work.

Same with Cena. WWE is more high flying and mat wrestling, John Cena is a brawler. The styles don't mesh very well, and it becomes a situation on who do you put Cena with in a feud.

I don't agree with the retread statement either. I hardly think Angle and Cage are retreads. They chose to leave the WWE for an opportunity in TNA. But there are those loyal TNA fans that to this day complain about Angle and Cage being WWE guys in their companies ring. You occasionally get it on these boards where people are wondering, why aren't Styles or Samoa Joe getting World Title pushes? I just feel if those people can't accept Angle or Cage, then Cena is going to be that much harder to put over.

I'm not sure Cena would bring a mass exodus of fans over with him. I would imagine he would get a nice little bump, but nothing extraordinary. The WWE has that pretty solid 3.5 that aren't going anywhere, and TNA has it's loyal Million or so fans that aren't going to go anywhere. I think you may see a slight bump, but nothing major. Fans aren't that loyal to individual wrestlers anymore, they are more loyal to companies.

If Hogan or Austin left in their primes, it would have destroyed the WWE. Hogan leaving damn near destroyed the WWE, so there is not a debate on that issue. If Austin left in 1998-1999, I think the WWE would have struggled. Sure they had the Rock, but the Rock was no Austin, you may not like it, but that's the truth. Cena is the number one guy in an overall down period in the company. Him showing up in TNA, or leaving the WWE will probably not make that big of a deal in the overall picture. It's not just Cena, I would say that for any wrestler out there today. There isn't that one guy that is that strong enough of a draw to change the direction of a company.

 

[PlatynumX420]

From a business standpoint no tna shouldn't sign cena. For one the money could go towards improving the impact zone,paying for arenas to tour in etc...For 2 imo the tna fanbase is largely smarks and most smarks typically despise Cena.Most of the 'typical' tna fans that go to the FREE impact tapings would more than likely not get a seat because of all the little kids and females that are cena fans flocking around Universal Studios would get in just to see him thus shunning the tna loyal fans but not the cena marks.This could alienate tna fans to being roh or roh exclusive if they were a fan of both.

Inring perspective :5 moves of doom wouldn't cut it in tna.Could Cena learn new moves and get beyond that? Yes,however there goes his whole 'superman' build up.He won't look like a badass to the little kid fans when his punches,kicks,clothelines dont get it done in tna and he actually has to wrestle and sell injuries (which i believe he cant do either of the 2).

 

[Capt. Charisma]

"Kurt Angle was a big star. But he was no John Cena."
What a load of bullshit this is why I hate these forums people talk out of their arse. Cena is only big because he is pushed so hard by WWE in the far superior company (financialy and in marketability not in product as thats very debatabe atm). If Kurt Angle was pushed in WWE as their no.1 face he could easily be more popular than Cena is today- no.1 since Stone cold or the Rock has been pushed anything nearly as hard as the top company face as Cena has. WWe didnt really have a top face from 2002-2005 Cena filled that spot, thats all WWe decided that they would push this nobody who was getting about the same pops as Heindenriech on smackdown with the rappers gimmick, then the good guy super face that stuck up to all the baddies, then months of Taz and Cole brainwashing the smackdown viewers by constantly kissing his arse and saying how good he is. Its true that if soone says that something is good enough times you will believe it. Then he had the feuds witht he best guys on smackdown Lesnar, Taker etc. Then made him into a MEGA-face good guy built him up even more and had him take the title off the most UNPOPULAR heel in WWE except HHH, (there is a certain parralel with Batista there) then moved him to the A-show and proceeded to shove him down everyones throats for 2 years. Cena's push has been goign on since 2003! You push anyone for 4 years and of course they are going to be your most popular wrestler- just look at Goldberg in WCW and that push didnt last nearly as long as cena's.
TNA's slogan is "we are wrestling" can you imagine the backlash from its fan base if wasted a huge amount of their annual budget in signing this overated, overpushed guy that is a shite wrestler (in the purest sense of the word) and a distinctly average entertainer. They would lose their entire fan base (16-30 males) that you slyfox have said yourself despise Cena, and do you really think everyone would switch over to TNA and watch TNA just to see him. Woud they heck TNA cant market him and shove him down peoples throats as much as WWe could so they would lose intrest in him, qand then their is the loaylity factor, many WWE 'fans' refuse to even watch TNA and hate it so why would they start watching it just to see Cena. I think many people like Jake have massively overated and overestimated Cena's drawing power. Atm now its at its maxium they cant push him anymore! hes been shoved down peoples throats so hard now that people are actualy starting to not tune in, any harder and his 'fans' would turn on him too.

 

[Slyfox696]

*Opening commentary goes here*

So, getting on with the topic...


Is the TNA title prestigious? Assume that the new TNA World title carries the same lineage of the NWA title, but only with regards for TNA. So, everyone who has been a NWA champion while champion in TNA, has been a TNA champion.

So, is the TNA title a prestigious one?

 

[Shocky]

So I'm assuming that the first world champion would be Ken Shamrock?

So it would go
Shamrock
Killings
Jarret
Styles
Jarret
Styles
Killings
Jarrett
Styles
Raven
Jarrett
Rhino
Cage
Jarrett
Sting
Abyss
Cage
Angle

Now as far as title reigns are concerned, the number is right on par with the number of World Title Reigns from the WHC and WWE championships.

I like that list of wrestlers for the TNA/NWA championship, minus two Ron Killings title reigns, that is a pretty strong list. Only ten different people have been the champion, which is pretty good for only five years.

It easily has more credibility than the supposed "world" title status of the WWECW championship, I mean, how dare I tarnish a legacy of a belt with Lashley twice, McMahon, and Johnny Nitro as the holders of that prestigous title since December?

I would almost make the argument that the TNA world champion maybe the most valuable recently of all of the four major titles.