Slammiversary: A Match Made In Heaven......

[Y 2 Jake]

Will probably turn to Hell.

The Wedding Of SoCal Val & ''Black Machismo'' Jay Lethal​

What will happen? Haven't they only been dating for like 3 months? TNA is like more of a soap than I thought. Obviously the whole angle is a rip off of the Savage/Liz wedding that happened at Summer Slam 1991. So I'm guessing it has a similar ending. Although TNA doesn't have the services of Ric Flair, Jake Roberts or The Undertaker. So they'll brobably have Bushwacker Luke, T.L. Hopper & Jim Mitchell involved. Or possibly Sonjay Dutt, I'm unsure.

 

[klunderbunker]

This whole angle has just blown by for me. I remember a few of the date scenes, but other than that I don't remember any of it. That being said, does anyone see a point to this? I ger that it's a ripoff/parody of 91, but are they really expecting this to be a big deal on the show? I get that they're building to Dutt/Lethal, but TNA's biggest issue is shining through again, they're making things go both too fast and too slow at the same time. The wedding angle is being set up too fast, and the actual build between Dutt and Lethal has been going too slow. I'm not expecting much, but TNA has suprised me wtih segments like this before, such as the 3D funeral a few years back. COuld be ok, but now thinking so.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Parodies are so big right now. Having a Macho Man, Elizabeth, potential Hogan, Steve Austin, Scott Steiner & Kane/Undertaiker just isn't enough. Parodies equal ratings. This angle was good in 1991, imagine how awesome it would be now. It's kinda like the original King Kong and the recent remake. Sure the original is good, but with the advancements in cool ring attire, and entrance ramps this will be even better. Just like the recent Kong film is getter because of the FX.

 

[Father:_Polley]

Wait...they're getting married? Haven't they only had like two dates? What if Val finds out he doesn't have any machismo?
As usual with TNA, it's all being done far to fast. And as usual in wrestling, something will go wrong.
I'm suspecting Sonjay will have drugged Val and married her in a drive thru wedding ceremony, faking her voice and will show the footage before the I do's. Just so they can parody another wedding in wrestling

 

[klunderbunker]

That's true, but part of the reason that those original angles or films or what have you worked so well was the cast involved. Lethal and Dutt may be good, but they're far from Savage and Roberts. Part of the reason Roberts was great at being evil in the angle was because he played the role so perfectly. Think of the Star Wars Special Editions that were updated with special effects etc. From most reports I've heard, most people have not liked them as much as the originals. I grew up a huge fan of the original King Kong, but I saw the new version, and it didn't work whatsoever for me. The original worked better because of the lack of special effects to work with. Dutt just doesn't seem evil enough to me, but maybe he can suprise me.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Of cause it's being done fast Polley. TNA Is written for and buy 5 year olds. Nobody who watches that promotion, and likes it, has the ability to sit still for more than a couple of hours. They need to get it done quickly. I'd like to compare TNA to 24 for a second. You watch a series of 24, and by the end, the first couple of episodes are completley forgotten. TNA fans are like that, but instead of 24 episodes, it's 24 minutes. And TNA's booking philosophy is this: YOU CAN DO A LOT IN 24 MINUTES.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

That's true, but part of the reason that those original angles or films or what have you worked so well was the cast involved. Lethal and Dutt may be good, but they're far from Savage and Roberts. Part of the reason Roberts was great at being evil in the angle was because he played the role so perfectly. Think of the Star Wars Special Editions that were updated with special effects etc. From most reports I've heard, most people have not liked them as much as the originals. I grew up a huge fan of the original King Kong, but I saw the new version, and it didn't work whatsoever for me. The original worked better because of the lack of special effects to work with. Dutt just doesn't seem evil enough to me, but maybe he can suprise me.

I was being sarcastic. What I was getting at is just because something is done again, and is say more flashy and expensive, doesn't make it better. The originals are usually the best. Trying to do it again will never be the same, you'll never cath that magic again.

Unless it's a total reinvention like say Scarface. The original and the early 80's version couldn't be any different. So there's apoint to it. But this is TNA we're talking about. They won't do this any different from 17 years ago, which is why it'll be terrible.

The Savage/Liz wedding angle is only looked on so fondly because most of us remember it from when were were children. I watched it recently and it's a pretty boring event. Cheesy, overlong. It's only the final 30 seconds of the wedding reception that are of intrest. TNA is going to recreate a memorable, but average angle. It's pointless.

 

[Father:_Polley]

Of cause it's being done fast Polley. TNA Is written for and buy 5 year olds. Nobody who watches that promotion, and likes it, has the ability to sit still for more than a couple of hours. They need to get it done quickly. I'd like to compare TNA to 24 for a second. You watch a series of 24, and by the end, the first couple of episodes are completley forgotten. TNA fans are like that, but instead of 24 episodes, it's 24 minutes. And TNA's booking philosophy is this: YOU CAN DO A LOT IN 24 MINUTES.

Five year olds with ADHD is probably more accurate. It seems to be a common trend in wrestling now though. People can't seem to cope with the long feuds with actual story behind them, instead they then complain that there's no build up to feuds and then bitch when there are more than two PPVs with the same people in them.

And now watch as I destroy my argument by saying that the new Kong movie was too long and bored me. Special effects are fine provided you don't make it so long to cram as much in as possible, that the story drags

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Five year olds with ADHD is probably more accurate. It seems to be a common trend in wrestling now though. People can't seem to cope with the long feuds with actual story behind them, instead they then complain that there's no build up to feuds and then bitch when there are more than two PPVs with the same people in them.

One one hand I think your right. People complained about Cena's not very long title reign. But when it's TNA short feuds would always be best. Booker/Roode went nowhere, lasted forever, and elevated nobody. The feud was never ending. Apparently it's finished now. Thing is though, it's not. It ended, then TNA booked them together as a team at Sacrifice. They will also team up again now, Booker T is a heel so it's inevitable.

But this isn't a match, it's an angle. And it's something that should have gone on for longer. But TNA is so impatient that they've rushed it. Maybe they know something we don't. Maybe Dixie is pulling the plug. I pray Russo is using up all his ideas before the promotion collapses.

 

[klunderbunker]

I was being sarcastic. What I was getting at is just because something is done again, and is say more flashy and expensive, doesn't make it better. The originals are usually the best. Trying to do it again will never be the same, you'll never cath that magic again.

Unless it's a total reinvention like say Scarface. The original and the early 80's version couldn't be any different. So there's apoint to it. But this is TNA we're talking about. They won't do this any different from 17 years ago, which is why it'll be terrible.

The Savage/Liz wedding angle is only looked on so fondly because most of us remember it from when were were children. I watched it recently and it's a pretty boring event. Cheesy, overlong. It's only the final 30 seconds of the wedding reception that are of intrest. TNA is going to recreate a memorable, but average angle. It's pointless.

That makes me feel much better. I was worried about you for a minute there Jake. You're absolutely right, it's not going to be anything more than a twenty minute long unintentional comedy segment. This angle could be excellent if they changed anything at all, but all I'm seeing is the 17 years ago all over again, which at the time was great, but not today. Like I said, is Dutt supposed to be Jake Roberts here? Lethal can be Savage, Val looks good enough to be the new Liz, but Dutt is little above a comedic spot monkey. COuld be good, but won't work whatsoever more than likely.

 

[Slim Pickns]

All I can say is, ugh. Think about this for a second, someone in TNA thought up the Black Machismo idea and then thought to pair him up with So Cal Val. Then in a meeting one day someone said "We should recreate the wedding from Summerslam 91" and people responded with "Thats a damn good idea." Bash WWE creative for being boring and unoriginal all you want, but they look like masterminds next to this.

I can't think of one redeeming quality this angle will have. People keep saying a Dutt/Lethal feud, but who really cares? Sonjay hasn't done anything since Joe buried the X division three years ago. TNA creative meetings must consist of three guys with pens, notebooks, and the 90's boom wrestling video library. This is horrible, just horrible.

 

[Fuzzy]

Wait...they're getting married? Haven't they only had like two dates? What if Val finds out he doesn't have any machismo?
As usual with TNA, it's all being done far to fast. And as usual in wrestling, something will go wrong.
I'm suspecting Sonjay will have drugged Val and married her in a drive thru wedding ceremony, faking her voice and will show the footage before the I do's. Just so they can parody another wedding in wrestling

HAHAHAHA I remember that. That was hilarious. I actually was shocked that Triple H did that. At the time it was great heel heat cause they had pushed Test up so with "The union," Stephanie, and beating Shane.

TNA should've had Dutt turn on Lethal at lockdown. He should've slammed the door in Lethal's face and let Devine get out. Then the following night cut a promo on how he is sick of being the Guru, sick of the machismo, sick of the X division as a whole, and most importantly sick of So Cal Val paying attention to Lethal only. It would've been excellent and gotten a good reaction from the crowd.

Then again... its tna.

 

[SpiralHands]

I wish just for once TNA could actually build something up and let if off at the right moment, we all know this wedding is going down the oan we all know Sonjay will turn on Lethal its been planned for ages and we all know that, so why TNA do you keep it for so long until the time for him to turn is long gone and no ones cares! Maybe this segment will be interesting but predictable at its best. Ive never heard of Ace Young maybe its because I dont have much life, maybe its because im English but I wish just for once TNA spend some money and bring in someone we all know and is worldwide recognized! Anyways Sonjay turns on Lethal right when they say "anyone know of any reason why these two cant be married". What a way to use 20 minutes of PPV time!

 

[TheOneBigWill]

So from iMPACT! this week, we're apparently going to see Sonjay Dutt reveal something that he wishes to wait until last minute to say. (leaves it open for T.N.A. to decide on finally turning him against Lethal, or swerving everyone and yet again having him side with Lethal)

Also, Dutt has explained that the Groomsmen will be Koko B' Ware, George "The Animal" Steele, and Kamala. (what, Doink was all booked?) And finally, to add to it.. unless I'm mistaken, apparently Jake 'The Snake' Roberts is also going to be there. And I must admit, the ending to the Party was hilarious when Dutt pulls out the snake and announces Jake's going to be there.. with Lethal yelling in a Savage-like voice.. "The snake's coming?!?!?!" I laughed my ass off.

Whenever a wedding happens in the W.W.E., it typically has a bad ending. Because of this logic, I truly believe So Cal Val and Lethal WILL fully go through with being "married." In a T.N.A.-ish type of way.. only for Lethal to heel turn on her in time, and become King Machismo or something of that nature.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

From what I hear this was awful. I'm not surprised. When you look back at the 1991 version it's awful. It wasn't then. But 17 years on it is, wrestling is so different now. TNA might think that stuff like this is a tribute to a once great angle. But it makes the promotion come off as cheap and second rate. The sad thing is that it won't stop. If anything it's probably only just begun. It's also completely pointless. The outcome is known. And if you know the ending then there's not much point in watching.