Should Neville Move To The Cruiserweight Division?

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So I was thinking about this while watching cwc, here's a guy like neville, who's has been lost in the shuffle since he returned from injury. He shows up once in a while on raw when they got 5 minutes free to give him and it's mostly for a quick match with no real story being it.

so I'm thinking with the cruiserweight division starting next week and tj perkins being the cruiserweight champion, how about using neville in that division to give them a name to establish itself and maybe have him challenge for the title, that way you are not wasting a talent like neville and at the same time you give the division a big star that casual fan actually knows and will make them watch that segmentnt on raw.
 
That's not a bad idea to tell you the truth. Kalisto when he comes back from wherever he is definitely should be put into this division as well. There should be some exciting matches coming out of it if last's night's show was any indication.
 
If he was doing something relevant enough, then I wouldn't have move him to Cruserweight Division.

But since he's just lurking around like Zayn and WWE isn't booking him interestingly, I think that he would better be in Cruserweight Division. He could serve the purpose of credible cruiserweights along with Kendrick, Ciampa and Gargano.

So Neville is better in Cruserweight Division.
 
That's not a bad idea to tell you the truth. Kalisto when he comes back from wherever he is definitely should be put into this division as well. There should be some exciting matches coming out of it if last's night's show was any indication.
I guess that you forgot that Kalisto has been drafted to Smackdown.

Instead we have got Sincara on Raw.

Plus I have read reports that suggest that he is dealing with a back injury. That's why he hasn't wrestled on Smackdown since 2 August. Corbin Vs. Kalisto was going to take place at Backlash but the plans were nixed considering Kalisto's injury.
 
I guess that you forgot that Kalisto has been drafted to Smackdown.

Instead we have got Sincara on Raw.

Plus I have read reports that suggest that he is dealing with a back injury. That's why he hasn't wrestled on Smackdown since 2 August. Corbin Vs. Kalisto was going to take place at Backlash but the plans were nixed considering Kalisto's injury.

You know what I did forget. The WWE would be smart to trade him back again wouldn't they. I've been watching SD since it went live and haven't see him, don't know what happened to him, it's easy to forget when he isn't around.

Just saw your edit about the injury. Obviously had no idea he was out with one.
 
You could do the same thing they did with jack swagger and just say that kalisto's smackdown contract ran ot and raw signed him.
 
You could do the same thing they did with jack swagger and just say that kalisto's smackdown contract ran ot and raw signed him.

Or call it a trade.

I would expect to see cruiserweights jump in and out of feuds in the division. There will only be so many cruiserweights but too many for all of them to be chasing the title. They will need something for them. Would not be surprised to see at least one cruiserweight tag team. Frankly, I thought they would crown Neville the cruiserweight champ before the tournament ended so he could be the heel that was "handed" the title.
 
It's pretty much a given we'll see Neville compete in the 205lbs and under division considering he makes wait and is on Raw. Not really a stretch here or a good idea, it just is a thing that will happen.

No man should be relegated to one division. Raw needs more tag teams, I'd rather see Neville form a British tag team with Jack Gallagher or something. The cruiserweight roster has a ton of depth as from the jump, does it need Neville?

If we go with the logic small guys compete in the cruiserweight division, does that mean Enzo Amore competes in the division? Sin Cara is billed as 205, does he compete there too?

The short answer is everyone competes there but also does there own thing. If you make weight, you'll show up there. Or they could book you to "cut weight" like they did in the past with Matt Hardy or Christian.
 
It's pretty much a given we'll see Neville compete in the 205lbs and under division considering he makes wait and is on Raw. Not really a stretch here or a good idea, it just is a thing that will happen.

No man should be relegated to one division. Raw needs more tag teams, I'd rather see Neville form a British tag team with Jack Gallagher or something. The cruiserweight roster has a ton of depth as from the jump, does it need Neville?

If we go with the logic small guys compete in the cruiserweight division, does that mean Enzo Amore competes in the division? Sin Cara is billed as 205, does he compete there too?

The short answer is everyone competes there but also does there own thing. If you make weight, you'll show up there. Or they could book you to "cut weight" like they did in the past with Matt Hardy or Christian.

The thing is though, the cruiserweight division is good for smaller guys who have no personality, but are fun to watch in the ring. Neville is a perfect fit. The cruiserweight division, in general, gets over by showcasing their in ring talent while doing little on the mic. Obviously there are exceptions, but those exceptions, if they prove good enough, can be pulled out of the division and move on to bigger and better things. IMO, Aries is a great example of someone who doesn't need the cruiserweight division.

Don't get me wrong. There can obviously be storylines involved in the division, which will obviously include mic time. But that's most likely going to be left to the most over wrestlers.
 
I figured that's where he'd wind up the moment they announced the return of the Cruiserweight Division. To look at Neville, I mean just looking at him on TV, he could pass for someone a good 220 lbs. when you look at his build, the guy's ripped to the bone, is billed at 194 lbs. and has that muscle mass on a stocky 5'6 or 5'7" build. Tony Nese, who'll also be in the Cruiserweight Division, has a similar build even though he's closer to 6'0" than Neville is. Like Neville, he's ripped, stocky and possesses great athletic ability.

Generally speaking, I think we'll see almost every wrestler billed at 205 lbs. or less wind up on Raw by next year, that is if they don't do another draft and SmackDown Live winds up drafting the Cruiserweight Division as a whole. As of right now, the only two guys on the WWE main roster billed at 205 lbs. or less who aren't on Raw are Chad Gable and Kalisto. I think Kalisto will wind up on Raw eventually to be part of the Cruiserweight Division but Gable needs to stay where he is because American Alpha is too damned good of a team to break up anytime in the foreseeable future.

Truth be told, there are probably still several guys on the main roster who could genuinely be put in the Cruiserweight Division right now, or could if they dropped no more than 10 lbs. like Tyler Breeze, Seth Rollins, AJ Styles, Aiden English, Simon Gotch, Heath Slater, Kofi Kingston, Xavier Woods and maybe a few others.

The matches have the potential to be excellent, I just hope that it doesn't turn into what it always was in WWE: just a place to stick guys. Given Triple H's involvement, however, there's a great chance that it's a relevant part of the product.
 
The problem is how much time will they give to the Cruiserweights on RAW? They are still going to have gab fests that drag the product. They are still going to have Reigns/Rollins or whoever else in the Main Event. Sure, you can add Neville. He will probably beat Perkins for the CW Strap. You can also institute a CW Tag strap as well, ala New Japan. But, the reality is, you need to give them the proper time on RAW. If you are only going to allow them 5-7 minutes a show, adding Neville would be a waste.
 
What a shame for poor Neville. When he was in NXT, he showed all of the potential in the world and I really thought, perhaps very optimistically, that he would be given a brilliant push when the time was right for him to move on up to the main roster. But the truth of the matter is that the WWE have consistently and confidently shit all over the momentum that he garnered through NXT and his turn as NXT Champion. They gave him none of the advantages that Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn got despite being as equally talented. So the fact that people are now saying that he should go to the Cruiserweight division leaves the value squarely at the door of the WWE. If they had given Neville a chance, then he would have grasped it with both hands and run with it, I firmly believe that. But as of yet, they haven't given him anything noteworthy and now no one cares about him. Congratulations WWE.

I think it all goes back to the difference between NXT and the WWE main roster. NXT is focused on wrestling matches and allowing wrestlers to build a fan base through wrestling performances. The main roster shows are so heavily reliant on cutting a promo that some people who deserve a shot will never get one. So if the WWE are willing to give Neville some sort of belief and trust in the Cruiserweight division, then I guess that makes the best of a bad situation.
 
The current rosters in the brand extension are irrelevant but the cruiser weight
division depending on the weight limits with Neville, Kalisto, Balor, Breeze added has a chance at success.

Likely we'll see some contracts expiring moves to explain away roster moves for Smackdown is thin talent wise and could use Paige added to the their divas roster and Darren Young going as well while some of the younger talent headed to Raw for right now, the #1 talent on either roster (AJ Styles) has nobody to feud with if Cena goes on hiatus for his TV show. They could opt to swap Ambrose for Reigns to give each show a different look.
 
Ok the fact that people are mentioning Balor is laughable and insanely stupid. The man is a former Universal Champion guaranteed a long stint in the Main Event when he comes back so stop being ******ed.

As for Neville I seem to be in the minority when I say no. The main reason being a simple reason that most people are forgetting and that's the 205lb weight limit. Why have it the entire tournament to crown the champion and then say fuck it when they come to the main roster? I get that billed weights may or may not be accurate but the man is built like a brick shithouse. He's at least 220 of pretty solid muscle so while I can suspend my disbelief more than most but there's no way I or anyone would buy it if he was billed at 205 or under.

Then there's my personal hope they'll pull him out of limbo and make him a midcard contender. He's got everything to do it he just needs a chance.
 
I'm in the no camp... Neville is "above" it still, in that he has been on the main roster a while and if they inserted him now it would be both a step down for him and damage the momentum they want to build in the division around Perkins, Alexander etc...

Neville, even being smaller will likely move to the tag division or into the US title picture towards next year. Personally I think he just needs a decent manager (or if they can somehow gt Barrett or Zack Sabre Jr. back as his partner, then they could really pull up some trees in the tags) to get over big time... It's the downside of moving ALL the women over to two divisions, there are no valets really left as they're all competitors. Perhaps Emma and Neville could work together now she is reffing again?

As for the Cruiser division, Neville is the kind of guy who comes in after a while if they do that... as a mystery opponent for Perkins after he's had a good run who can upset him or to launch a new influx of talent. Rightly or wrongly, their picks are going to carry it for the first 3-6 months... if established names move over too quick it's a bad sign and shows WWE are not impressed.
 
I'd rather him do something than nothing and he isn't a completely awful person personality wise, but he doesn't seem to be one to connect much. He's obviously gifted with in ring ability, and the story-telling aspect of his moves. I just think he gets lost in the mix and the ability drowned out due to not having any Mic time, or him being pretty awful and unnatural seeming.

Some of the cooler moments when he was heel in was NXT was the turn from friend to foe, or the build to the actual match settling more than just a fight over a prized belt. The back story of both of them on the independent circuit and Zayn chasing the title just had the chemistry and all the material to work with.

I think he'd be cool as a heel just kind of giving people the cold shoulder or just being some sort of snob as opposed to a narcissist.

It'd be cool to introduce him into the Cruiserweight Division to give him the opportunity to show his skills, etc. The champion could be introduced then Neville could pretty much come out frustrated of floundering in his apparent current main roster run, etc. He doesn't really have to even explain it until the following week, really. Kind of sets up a feud between two to showcase their skills and even if he loses he can ride off that momentum, or win the title and just give the show to the main competitors.
 
Ok the fact that people are mentioning Balor is laughable and insanely stupid. The man is a former Universal Champion guaranteed a long stint in the Main Event when he comes back so stop being ******ed.

As for Neville I seem to be in the minority when I say no. The main reason being a simple reason that most people are forgetting and that's the 205lb weight limit. Why have it the entire tournament to crown the champion and then say fuck it when they come to the main roster? I get that billed weights may or may not be accurate but the man is built like a brick shithouse. He's at least 220 of pretty solid muscle so while I can suspend my disbelief more than most but there's no way I or anyone would buy it if he was billed at 205 or under.

Then there's my personal hope they'll pull him out of limbo and make him a midcard contender. He's got everything to do it he just needs a chance.
Sir, He is about 194 pounds so he easily makes the weight limit even if it remains as such from the CWC.

Considering Balor in Cruserweight Division would be missing a big opportunity. He would easily make the weight limit but he shouldn't go to Cruserweight Division in any way.
 
Ok the fact that people are mentioning Balor is laughable and insanely stupid. The man is a former Universal Champion guaranteed a long stint in the Main Event when he comes back so stop being ******ed.

I don't think it's nearly that cut & dry because we know how Vince is sometimes. While it's nobody's fault that Balor was injured, it's just one of those things that happens sometimes, it happened right when he was given a huge push and when, in Vince's mind, he was gambling on putting Raw's new top title on someone who'd only been on the main roster few weeks. With that being said, Balor got hurt and whatever plans WWE had at the time had to be scrapped and changed; they took a chance on Balor and it didn't pan out or, at least, I won't be at all surprised if that's Vince's perspective.

Upon his return, Balor will be in the Universal Championship picture to begin with, but he many not be kept there because getting injured so soon MIGHT generate doubts among some top officials. Vince may want to put him lower on the card, such as what we've seen with Sami Zayn, to gauge how well he does over the long haul and see if his body holds up. Then, if he gets over in this new spot, there's a real chance of him heading back to the main event spot. The reverse is also true, however, and Vince may have lots of faith in Balor and has for a long time now; as a result, MAYBE Balor could find himself right back in the main event spot. Vince threw us a curve ball right from the start by having Balor become the first Universal Champion, Roman Reigns might have gotten it had he not gotten in trouble but that's neither here nor there because one man's misfortune is another man's opportunity. Vince's moods and mind set can be unpredictable at times, so it's just too early to tell with Balor.

However, the notion of Balor being in the Cruiserweight Division is far from laughable. Balor's bread & butter for over a decade has been wrestling as a cruiserweight in Japan; the man's a 4 time IWGP Junior Heavyweight Champion and 6 time IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Champion. His work in New Japan's Junior Heavyweight Division is what got WWE's attention in the first place. When Balor hit the main roster, I honestly felt that Vince would want to increase his billed weight because there were only a few wrestlers at the time on the main roster who were billed at being under 200 lbs. and Balor is legitimately about 190 lbs., that's what he's been billed at in NXT and it's what he's still billed at on the main roster. I figured that Vince would want to bump him up to 205 or 210 at least.
 
I don't think it's nearly that cut & dry because we know how Vince is sometimes. While it's nobody's fault that Balor was injured, it's just one of those things that happens sometimes, it happened right when he was given a huge push and when, in Vince's mind, he was gambling on putting Raw's new top title on someone who'd only been on the main roster few weeks. With that being said, Balor got hurt and whatever plans WWE had at the time had to be scrapped and changed; they took a chance on Balor and it didn't pan out or, at least, I won't be at all surprised if that's Vince's perspective.

Upon his return, Balor will be in the Universal Championship picture to begin with, but he many not be kept there because getting injured so soon MIGHT generate doubts among some top officials. Vince may want to put him lower on the card, such as what we've seen with Sami Zayn, to gauge how well he does over the long haul and see if his body holds up. Then, if he gets over in this new spot, there's a real chance of him heading back to the main event spot. The reverse is also true, however, and Vince may have lots of faith in Balor and has for a long time now; as a result, MAYBE Balor could find himself right back in the main event spot. Vince threw us a curve ball right from the start by having Balor become the first Universal Champion, Roman Reigns might have gotten it had he not gotten in trouble but that's neither here nor there because one man's misfortune is another man's opportunity. Vince's moods and mind set can be unpredictable at times, so it's just too early to tell with Balor.

However, the notion of Balor being in the Cruiserweight Division is far from laughable. Balor's bread & butter for over a decade has been wrestling as a cruiserweight in Japan; the man's a 4 time IWGP Junior Heavyweight Champion and 6 time IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Champion. His work in New Japan's Junior Heavyweight Division is what got WWE's attention in the first place. When Balor hit the main roster, I honestly felt that Vince would want to increase his billed weight because there were only a few wrestlers at the time on the main roster who were billed at being under 200 lbs. and Balor is legitimately about 190 lbs., that's what he's been billed at in NXT and it's what he's still billed at on the main roster. I figured that Vince would want to bump him up to 205 or 210 at least.

This does work... if you think about it, the first Universal Champ winning the cruiser belt does add some kudos for a second wave of talent... but it won't be for a while. If they need to transplant anyone in from the main roster, it's a sign that their initial picks are bombing. Even the WCW division had some people for a while, then brought new ones in over time...

With news of the TNA bid, that might also come into play. If Vince is serious about buying TNA then some guys you think might be destined for the Cruiser division could end up over there. Let's face it if a buy out went through and they kept TNA running but seperate for 2 years then when they did do the big crossover, X-Division vs Cruiser Division would be a big draw.
 

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