Sheamus the Reason for Nexus, The Miz and all of 2010

[jhauth11]

Very Simple. At the start of the year at Elimination Chamber, in the Raw EC match Sheamus is said to have blotched his razors edge powerbomb to Triple H thus causing him an injury to the shoulder. Triple H was able to work though the injury and continue with the storyline with sheamus till extreme rules, where their or the night after Sheamus "took out" Triple H and put him on the side lines. With the injury that Sheamus legit caused HHH and nagging older ones Triple H took time off to get them surgically fix. With HHH gone from raw, Raw needed a new top attraction thus enter Nexus, and them running a muck on Raw. The stupid Unknown raw GM, who has gotten Cole over as a heel. Randy Ortons Summer Run as Champ. and The Rise of the MIZ!

So to sum it all up, if it wasnt for Sheamus being a little to green in the ring and blotching this Powerbomb to the game and putting him out would the whole Summer program of WWE have taken place.

This maybe look like other topics but im asking if the whole events that have happened in WWE from Extreme Rules-Nexus invasion to This weeks Raw would have happened had Sheamus not blotched his move

 

[Pepperami]

A lot of things happen or don't happen as a result of other things happening (or not happening). Storylines change to accomodate what's available and what's not, but in this case, I think everything would've remained the same anyway.
The invasion of Nexus was a great idea and I think it would've happened whether Triple H was there or not. I'd like to think it would be better if he hadn't have been injured because a face-off between Barrett and Triple H would've been great to watch. It would've just meant that the war between Nexus and Raw would be even bigger due to Raw's top superstar being there.

However, even if Triple H wasn't injured by Sheamus, I think he would've taken leave following HBK's retirement anyway.

 

[Sparky]

Wait, What? No way. HHH, couldn't of won both of the money in the bank matches now could he? and nobody has lost the money in the bank thing, so the Miz still would of been champion, and Nexus would of still been there, it just would of been him vs Nexus, instead of Orton. This is just another stupid HHH bashing thread. come on, Shaemus ie, HHH has nothing to do with the Miz and Nexus even if HHH had of got injured or not.

 

[onewayleeway69]

Very Simple. At the start of the year at Elimination Chamber, in the Raw EC match Sheamus is said to have blotched his razors edge powerbomb to Triple H thus causing him an injury to the shoulder. Triple H was able to work though the injury and continue with the storyline with sheamus till extreme rules, where their or the night after Sheamus "took out" Triple H and put him on the side lines. With the injury that Sheamus legit caused HHH and nagging older ones Triple H took time off to get them surgically fix. With HHH gone from raw, Raw needed a new top attraction thus enter Nexus, and them running a muck on Raw. The stupid Unknown raw GM, who has gotten Cole over as a heel. Randy Ortons Summer Run as Champ. and The Rise of the MIZ!

So to sum it all up, if it wasnt for Sheamus being a little to green in the ring and blotching this Powerbomb to the game and putting him out would the whole Summer program of WWE have taken place.

This maybe look like other topics but im asking if the whole events that have happened in WWE from Extreme Rules-Nexus invasion to This weeks Raw would have happened had Sheamus not blotched his move

Sheamus isnt green at all by the way he wrestled for years and years in the uk and ireland be4 entering the WWE. Just sayin lol but i dont think you can put the whole of 2010 on one move that went wrong that would just be silly wouldnt it? Nexus where always gunna be pushed to the moon and back no matter what. Its been said that Vince is licking The Miz bum and has been for a while so i think Vince always had plans for the Miz.Could they have been brought forward because of The Game being hurt? Sure but i think he was a future champ in Vinces eyes for a long time now. Now I no Vince is easy turned off wrestlers hes called the future (Drew and Burke were both called the future by Vince himself and ones in Tna and the others push has stopped big time) But i think Vince new he had to make stars and quick with Taker, The game,Edge Rey Jericho, Batista on way out and hell I'll even chuck big shows name in the there coz he cant have much time left surely! Enter Miz Wade Barrett Swagger and Sheamus .

 

[Sicc Nick]

Sheamus had nothing to do with the angles, and Triple H left not just due to injuries, but due to him being in a movie, and having time off made him realize he needs to stay out. The end. Suck ass thread.

 

[Ferbian]

I would hardly say he even botched it from the beginning. I don't believe there was any reports of Triple H getting injured due to the Irish Cross. Either way I doubt that it would've changed anything. WWE would most likely have been giving The Nexus their debut anyway, and The Miz would've been world champion either way. Just because one thing changes I doubt some of the other things are effected due to it.

Triple H would most likely have continued to feud with Sheamus or something like that. So in that way Nexus would've still been around cause that was John Cena's angle. The Miz has been on high regards from Vince McMahon for a little while and would've become champion eventually anyway.

All of 2010 would've been more or less the same with exception of a few minor things I'm sure. WWE would have Triple H against someone, but I doubt it would've affected the larger picture. It would most likely just have given Nexus and Sheamus something to feud with rather than completely removing the Nexus storyline and all that.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

I think it's pretty obvious that Nexus was created and brought in to put Wade Barrett over. They needed something to make him a mega-heel right away. If he came in by himself, he'd be just another generic heel and the feuds would have been boring. So they formed a group and did the whole NWO type thing this Nexus interfering in every match then feuding with the top face (Cena).

Not sure if I'm alone with this opinion or not but I think the rest of Nexus is total garbage. Barrett is the only one who will make it and in some ways he "used" the others to get here.

Nexus would have come in whether Trips got hurt or not. The timing just may have been different.

 

[Lionshare]

Maybe it was a little bad luck, but remember that wasnt the only injury HHH has, and still is recovering. To me ill give a big thanks to Sheamus if that was one of the causes of the youth movement in the wwe, it has refreshned things, feuds, and fights.
If HHH wasnt sidelined today, we still see him hogging the spotlight, squashing barret, miz and bryan daniel. You can say anything you want about the wwe today, but thanks to this new athletes, we have new main events, new main eventers and new feuds are running wild.

In the end we should be glad this was the cornerstone of the change in the wwe.

 

[culantro]

i don't think all of the nexus is garbage, i really liked the evolution of husky( trough NXT season 2), and i dig the way justin gabriel has been used. Trips getting injured has nothing to do with the existence of the nexus, and you can't blame Sheamus for the injury of HHH, it was just plain bad luck, so fella, don't take it on Sheamus, because he wasn't green in the feud with HHH...

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I'm a big fan of Sheamus, I've liked the guy from the start really, but the idea of him being responsible for the youth movement of 2010 is a little ridiculous. I agree that Sheamus was the first young guy to receive a monster push, and an unexpected one at that, but there are other factors that made the youth movement necessary.

As others have stated, a lot of the big established names in the WWE were either leaving the company or were going to be on the sidelines for a while. These big stars didn't just walk up and say that they wanted to leave or that they needed time off to rest up or rehab injuries one day and then walk out the door the next. Notice was given so the WWE could have time to figure what to do. With so many huge names out, the WWE didn't really have too much of a choice but to initiate a youth movement. As of right now, with John Cena "gone" as it were, Randy Orton is pretty much the only huge name left on Raw and it's mostly just been Cena & Orton for months now.

The concept of NXT was something unique in that it was about guys that were relatively or completely unknown. They had their own show and would get regular television exposure without being overshadowed by bigger names. They could potentially get over without ever having set foot on Raw or SmackDown!. The minute Nexus beatdown John Cena on Raw, they were hugely over. Wade Barrett is the one getting the obvious and biggest push as he's really the only one of Nexus that's really at that level right now and the others are getting a lot of exposure as well just by being part of Nexus and being around Barrett.

As for The Miz, the WWE has really been pushing Miz before most of us even knew who Sheamus was. The Miz won the United States Championship in early October 2009 and, even then, people were saying that it was just a matter of time before Miz made it to the main event scene and it's happened.

There are some that prefer more veterans on the roster to balance out the younger guys and that's all well and good. However, what can you do when there's a noticable shortage of veterans available on the roster that have what it takes to perform at those high levels?

 

[Mr. Artistic guy]

Anybody want to know what is really strange about this whole scenario? (well some of you wouldn't say so, but some of you guys gain nourishment from arguements). If we take this thread to it's logical conclusion and say sheamus is the reason for nexus being able to come through, then you'll have to admit before sheamus' revolution when younger guys got buried like in TNA he almost certainly would not have got through if it wasn't for his befriending of HHH.

So in effect what we are saying is HHH, the guy synonomous with a reputation of holding guys down, is the indirect reason we now have sheamus, nexus, and why not continue? Lets also add daniel bryan to the list because he wouldnt have been given a chance pre-revolution, kaval and basically you could argue NXT in general is an result of sheamus getting through. Even funnier is that HHH WAS one of those guys always in the mainevent scene before this all happened. Now we've got randy orton letting miz over him, HHH helping sheamus, cena making barrett's career and it's trippling down to the mid-carders now even with morrison getting over sheamus who is now established, ziggler finally being given the intercontinental title andna good run I might add.

Do we all owe an indirect debt of gratitude to the game. Well not necessarily, if you think sheamus is in no way related to nexus!, but it is worth bearing in mind isn't it. What I really love about RIGHT NOW and the FUTURE of the WWE, the proof of the pudding will be in a couple of years down the line, thats when we'll reap ther ewards, when these guys have matured to be truly heat worthy. What I'm trying to say is, things are about to get better steadily week by week, and I cannot wait.

 

[LSN80]

I think that's quite a stretch to make.

First off, where did you read that Sheamus botched the Razor's Edge and injured HHH's shoulder? I haven't seen any articles or links that indicate that he did. So to say Sheamus even was the cause of the injury, other then in kayfabe terms, is unproven.

I believe the Nexus invasion was set up well in advance to HHH's injury. They may have even had it in mind when they started NXT in the first place. It's been too well thought out, and too well executed to just be made up on the fly, or to be done out of a necessity for a sudden change. I just have a hard time thinking that one man's absence has that big of an impact on booking overall.'

For example, John Cena held the WWE title for over a year, in 06-07. He tore his pectoral in a match against Mr Kennedy, and missed over 4 months of action. And WWE went on. Cena, the biggest star in the company, missed a third of a year, and new stars were still made, or jumped into the main event scene. The age of Orton, if you remember? I believe it would have happened anyway had Cena NOT been injured.

As for Miz, he and Big Show were the one who took the Unified Tag Titles from DX. You know, the group that had HHH in it? WWE thought enough of the Miz that they put him over HHH in essence. And that was before any injury to HHH, HBK's retirement, Punk's injury(he was in that tag match too) or Chris Jericho's hiatus. The point being is that WWE obviously saw enough in Miz that they decided to push him.

Has he benefitted from the absences of HBK, Jericho, and the man you mentioned, HHH? Absolutely. But thats what a true main event star does. He steps up and fills a void when there is one. The same thing goes for Wade Barrett. If he wasn't the talker he is, the Nexus angle likely would have fallen flat on its face. It's because of the individual talent of these men, ultimately, and not injuries, that Miz and the Nexus have become such successes within WWE.

 

[mrbrownstone]

First uo, where did you reaad HHH was injured by the High Cross? I never heard anything about that.

Onto the topic at hand, I would say Sheamus is the reason for the rise of Miz, Nexus and other young talent however not because he tooke HHH out. If Hunter had been around all summer, Miz would have still won MITB and Nexus would have still happened, they probably would have just feuded with him instead. They would have still happened because with WWE losing guys like HBK and Batista and people like Hunter and Taker not far off they need a new generation of main eventers.

Now why do I feel that Sheamus is atleast partially responsable for these pushes? I think this because Sheamus push was so succesful, if it had have completely failed a la Swaggers then I doubt the WWE would be risking the same thing happening with guys like Miz, Nexus, Alberto Del Rio and JoMo.

 

[JJ15776]

No offense, but I've never seen a less accurate thread starting post in my life. On any topic, on any board, anywhere on the internet, ever, in my life. Sad but true.

You might want to do at least a little bit of research before you start spouting off lies and other completely false and baseless statements.

First of all, Sheamus is less "green" than 99% of the WWE roster.
Second of all, I don't know where you got this crazy ass idea that Sheamus "botched" a move on Triple H, but let's clear that up right now. Sheamus did NOTHING wrong. I repeat, Sheamus did NOTHING - NOTHING - wrong. There was one dirt sheet reporting that Triple H was sore after the move, but even that specific article explicitly said that Sheamus did NOTHING - NOTHING - wrong.

Now that we've cleared up the fact that Sheamus did not botch this move as the first post so asininely claims - again, just so we're clear, he did NOTHING, NOTHING, wrong - let's move on to the other idiocies in this post.

I'd love to know what Triple H leaving had to do with any of those things. Would he have won Money in the Bank? Err, no...so I guess Miz still would've won. Would he have led the Nexus invasion? Err, no...so I guess Barrett still would've done that.

Obviously things would have played out differently if Triple H didn't take time off. But I can't think of one single major storyline that would've been significantly changed.

 

[Jonnie Walker]

The youth movement of 2010 included Sheamus, it wasn't caused by him. The youth movement started because of WWE's older top guys aging and getting closer to retirement. Vince realized that he can't use Orton vs. Cena forever, so he pushed Sheamus, formed Nexus, pushed Miz etc. Sheamus may have been the first star to be formed by it, but he wasn't the cause. Vince realized the product was getting stale, so he made changes, and he realized his top guys were getting old, so he pushed younger guys. End of story.