Sheamus - The Irish Rebel

[pkrebel]

I think most of us can agree that Sheamus' gimmick has been pretty stale for sometime. I was thinking of gimmicks what could work to get Sheamus over and this is what i came up with.

This will probably be controversial to a lot of British people but what if in the future a heel Sheamus fight's a face Barrett and during a match between Barrett and Sheamus, 2 masked men wearing Balaclava's come in and ambush Barrett, these 2 men would remain by Sheamus' side and would remained masked and will carry around an Irish flag depicting them as members of the IRA (An Irish Terrorist group) as they go on a mission to take down any British Wrestler on the roster and help Sheamus on his way to a wwe championship.

Thoughts?

I'm not great at coming up with a storyline's so feel free to share what direction this angle could take

 

[Soulblazed]

I like your idea and I've wanted to see an England(Barrett) vs Ireland(Sheamus) high profile feud for awhile now..Only thing is that your idea as intriguing as it is, won't work in today's WWE because of its PG Disneyfied environment. Now if this were the 80s or early 90s where foreign terrorist angles would've been more accepted, then yes I could see this angle being pulled off highly successfully.

I've wanted a heel Sheamus for a long time..He should use the Razor's Edge and Dublin Cloverleaf more often and at the very least be a badass heel that doesn't run from anyone.

 

[JBM]

First off...thanks for the tribute flag! Nice to know I have fans.

On point...why not go with it? I get the whole PG aspect, but if I were king of WWE for a day, I'd take a go at it. Is it gonna rub people the wrong way...sure, but that's the point of a heel, right? Zeb Coulter is the "Real American" mouthpiece who trashes immigrants every week. Rusev and the sexy blonde praises Vladimir Putin, pushing the lines of a tense international conflict. Obviously neither of those examples are as touchy as what the IRA angle would portray...but I'd like to think that most fans woud accept it as a work of fiction set to entertain the fans.

At the same time though, I don't have the slightlest clue as to how much emotion is involved in the reality of it with those that it would affect.

 

[Headman]

The WWE still has to tour overseas. I would imagine this angle would be pretty provocative for some people. And it may be lost on your average American fan who isn't aware of the IRA. Plus it's not like Islamic terrorist which is almost universally recognized as evil. Some people may end up cheering this group. I think if real people are dying as a result of something it's probably not a good idea for a wrestling angle.

 

[Steve-O-Matt]

Well, being an Englishman, I can honestly say that would NOT go down well. Why not have arabs in an American show getting heel heat by talking about 9/11? Just wouldn't go down well at all.

Why is it that people think there needs to be some sort of England vs. Ireland underline with a feud between Barrett and Sheamus? Why can't we just have a decent feud between them where they don't rely on such a cheap way of doing things? Look at them both, big brawlers, debutted at the same time. I've said it before on here, they can have an amazing rivalry just between them where it's personal. We don't need Barrett talking crap about Ireland and we don't need Sheamus burying England. One thing that can work is just have a simple "one up each other" feud. It would be great, remember the program with MVP and Matt Hardy, that was entertaining. And you can do that easily because they're both champions and can be seen on the same level now, even if it doesn't result in a unification match, we can still have a champion vs. champion at a PPV.

Also, England vs. Ireland isn't that special at all, every country over here doesn't like us, you can have England vs. Wales, England vs. Scotland, England vs. France, England vs. Germany, the list goes on.

TL;DR: We don't need a cheap "England vs. Ireland" underline to make this an amazing feud, both Barrett and Sheamus have the skills to make it personal and awesome.

 

[John Cena's Sweatbands]

I really don't like this idea. There are plenty of other ways to get heat than this. As Headman says, WWE still has to tour overseas. Can you imagine that angle being played out in Manchester? In London? In Birmingham? Hell, in Belfast? All these cities have a history of IRA bombings. Real people lost lives due to that group, I think it would be way too much to use that to get heat. I dare say it would be very offensive to the vast majority or Irish people.

Sheamus is talented enough, he doesn't need this.

 

[pkrebel]

Thanks for all your input and know it probably would be too controversial but I would never actually call them the IRA by name just make fans think they look like the IRA like the CM Punk and the whole SES/Jesus thing,

 

[John Cena's Sweatbands]

I think just having Sheamus have a few other Irish guys form a faction and take out British wrestlers might work. But best to leave out the balaclava type implications.

Just playing off the bitterness and rivalry of Ireland vs England is a good enough angle. It really works with any of the home nations, Scotland, Ireland etc vs England. There will always be a rivalry between these countries.

 

[tomthebodz]

Really not a fan of this idea. I personally think it's disrespectful to all the families who lost loved ones at the hands of the IRA. Yes it would be really effective at getting heel heat, it's just not right morally in my opinion.

Look what happened with Hassan, he was forced out of WWE by the network because of the angle with Taker.

That being said, I'd really like Sheamus to turn heel.

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

No! Just no!

Any implication of an Irish terrorist organisation is completely and utterly reprehensible - whether it be Republican or Loyalist! These scumbags murdered many many people under the banners of wanting to be Irish or British and made their money to run their little 'war' on the backs of extortion and drugs.

And asides from all that - Dublin is a long distance from were this actually has it's most impact. The Irish Republic, as a whole, does not want the financial albatross of another 6 counties - never mind the resistance that Loyalists would create. Plus, you'll have 'Irish Americans' with their romanticized version of the troubles cheering who should be the heels!

You want to create an Irish / English rivalry - fine. There is a perfectly good template to follow in the Finlay / Regal feud from WCW and this could be spread out to Drew McIntyre joining with Sheamus in a 'celtic' alliance.

While there are splinter IRA groups still murdering people in Northern Ireland, an idea like Irish terrorists should be treated with nothing but complete contempt! Something like this could actually cause a riot in the Odyssey in Belfast.

 

[Dirk]

The IRA-thing isn't my biggest problem with this, to be honest. I'm not going to pretend that I know a thing about Irish politics (only that calling Sheamus a Brit is wrong, since he's not from Northern Ireland).

My problem is this: What is there to Sheamus?
*He's Irish...
*He calls people "Fella"
*He loves to fight (even though that's also Finlay's thing)
*Uhm...

His whole rugged gimmick is also becoming an obvious lie and painfully so (first Yoshi, now Hunico beat his ass in real fights).

I know wrestlers aren't supposed to be too gimmicky, but tell me that the bulk of Sheamus's character isn't based on where comes from. In the "global village", flat, foreign caricatures aren't enough anymore.