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I’ve spent a lot of summer reading for my Literature class, and a big part of that is the works of Shakespeare. With that being said, I thought it’d be a good idea to get a few of his plays to read before the class started.

I don’t think I’ve ever been more disappointed in my entire life. I’m a big fan of MacBeth, as I am Romeo and Juliet. I thought the others would be of a similar level. I was wrong. A Midsummer Nights dream is one of the worst things I’ve ever had to sit through. The tempest is just as bad. But by far the worst was Othello.

I honestly do not see the hype about this guy AT ALL. Maybe he was good for his time. But honestly, give up on him. He is the most overrated man to ever walk the planet.
 
I think a lot of the problem with Shakespeare nowadays lies with the fact that what he wrote was SO in depth and almost cryptic. I remember doing Macbeth in English and having the notes explain things that were just beyond what people now would understand, whereas back then, they were common references that people got.

A lot of the problem with Shakespear is that now, people simply don't understand the writing, the archaic language used and the ideals the contain. To them, it's complicated and as a result people don't like to read them.

I'm the same with the other literary greats, Tolkein, Hardy, Austen...I struggle with imagining the settings, so I struggle with the book because I don't see it. I've seen stage versions and enjoyed Shakespeare, because it was set out in front of me, and I got what was happening. Not the detail, but the basics
 
In my experience as an English/teaching major, a writer, and an actor/director of school plays, I've had to work with Shakespeare on various occasions, and you know, I sort of have to agree with you a little bit on that, Becca. His work is definitely overrated. I haven't read everything he's done, so I can't comment on all of it, but although some of it is brilliant, others fall short.

Hamlet is easily my favorite of his works. That's one that I respect a lot. There are some things that I feel could be tweaked, but then again, every writer has their faults. Hamlet is a difficult read, and its sort of along the lines of the film "2001: A Space Odyssey" - its a bitch to get through, and you might not appreciate it the first time around, but if you study it a little bit and watch it again, it almost instantly earns great respect. I often quote some of the better lines in Hamlet, such as "Get thee to a nunnery", or the classic "To be or not to be, that is the question, whether tis nobler in the mind...." (not gonna write the entire soliloquy out lol). "Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio. A fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy" is a line that most people don't understand, but if you look it up, it essentially means "Oh crap, poor Yorick. I used to know him, Horatio. He was a good guy...really funny." The line "Thrift, thrift, Horatio. The funeral baked meats did coldly furnish forth the marriage tables." is saying "The wedding was practically scheduled so soon after the funeral that they could serve the same leftovers." Plus if you're a fan of The Lion King, you owe Hamlet, as TLK is basically a reinterpretation of Hamlet.

Back when I was a senior in high school, I was Claudio in our production of Much Ado About Nothing. Brutal as an actor to break through the barrier of his dialogue at first, but once you crack the code, it was hilarious. I mean, in all honesty, I had jokes about erections in some of my lines lol. "If he be not in love with some woman, there is no believing old signs" = "If he doesn't like her, why's he got a boner?" Crude, but funny lol. Many kids had difficulty getting through the play and understanding what their characters were doing as they didn't do the research to look up what the lines actually meant.

When I graduated, I came back for the next two years to be the assistant director of the plays. The first year, we did The Crucible, but the second year, we did A Midsummer Night's Dream. Again, the kids had trouble with it. Not exactly the most wonderful play out there, I agree Bec. But again, new life is brought into it if you can look at it in a more modern context.

Romeo and Juliet I found hard to get through, but the story itself is wonderful. Macbeth, not too big of a fan of it, but I've read worse things out there. Othello I thought was pretty decent, but I was rooting for Iago actually haha.

Shakespeare is overrated in the way that the Beatles, Elvis, the film Gone with the Wind, and all other classics are: people consider them perfect because they're old and easily recognizable. The toughest thing with Shakespeare is to get past the language, just like its rather difficult to appreciate a fantastic older film like "Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb" due to its cheap special effects, black and white grainy picture, and older atmosphere. But if you can jump over the hurdles, there are definitely many things to be a fan of. What's difficult is that too many people can't get over those hurdles (myself included with a lot of Shakespeare things and older films that push it to the extreme) but on the opposite end of the spectrum, too many people refuse to take an objective stance and truthfully rate something. Its a bit of a travesty when people dislike Shakespeare just because it isn't something they're familiar with (not saying you do, though, Becca, he might just not be your cup of tea) but its equally a travesty when people automatically think just because something is labeled a "classic" that its immune to criticism.

Jeez...the English dork in me came out haha.
 
We did it at school and I always found it to be pointless. Books aren't written like that now, and people don't talk like that. So what are you really learing? Schools should teach you things you'll need in life.

I'm sure his reputation is deserved. But I don't see how he's relevant today.
 
I’ve spent a lot of summer reading for my Literature class, and a big part of that is the works of Shakespeare. With that being said, I thought it’d be a good idea to get a few of his plays to read before the class started.

I don’t think I’ve ever been more disappointed in my entire life. I’m a big fan of MacBeth, as I am Romeo and Juliet. I thought the others would be of a similar level. I was wrong. A Midsummer Nights dream is one of the worst things I’ve ever had to sit through. The tempest is just as bad. But by far the worst was Othello.

I honestly do not see the hype about this guy AT ALL. Maybe he was good for his time. But honestly, give up on him. He is the most overrated man to ever walk the planet.

I'd have to disagree, I don't think he is overrated. Like you said to his time the man was the single biggest entertainer, you could argue back that there wasn't much in the form of entertainment back in the 1500s but Shakespeare still managed to inspire (the likes of Geffory Chaucer) and draw big crowds to the Globe. The following might be a slightly bizzare comparison but to say he is overrated is like calling the likes of Bruno Sammartino overrated. Sammartino opened doors, was the longest reigning champion, but if you showed his hour long match with Harley Race which ended in a draw to the fan of today they would probably get bored.

I also have to agree with Jake though that he isn't reallly relevant to your average school child today but to any writer, particularly playwrights I feel it is important to at least look at his works to see how there subject has developed. Shakespeare had the fundamentals right so to take in his works and evolve it to suit the modern day audience can be no bad thing can it?

I am indiffrent to Shakespeare, I am a fan of the storys alot of the time, take The Tempest for example as it is on your list of ones you don't like. The Tempest (to my knowledge) is Shakespeare's last play, it is about a magician who gives up his powers which mirrors Shakespeare stopping writing, I find this intriguing to say the least. Whilst I am attracted to the stories of Shakespears plays I am not a fan of the style and find the old English tough to get into, to me this is to be expected though considering we are around 4 - 500 years on from his works.
 
The language he uses can definitely be associated with my many people don't like him, simply due to not understand what he means. I think it is a very good point - people don't want to read through and try to decipher what he meant. I chose Literature though so I can't complain about having to learn it. He is a good writer in some ways. But because of the success of a few plays, everyone thinks the rest are amazing and so is he. When they're wrong.
 
Nope, sorry. You are underestimating Shakespeare. The man was a genius. The thing about Shakespeare that is relevant, and the thing about him that best demonstrates his genius, isn't reading his plays now, but looking at the legacy he left on the English language. He coined about 1,500 words that we use today, including some that you have all used in your posts, and he also first used expressions that everyone use like "into thin air", "flesh and blood", "tongue tied", I could go on.

The plots of his stories are still used today by everyone; how many Romeo and Juliet clones are there? even kids films like The Lion King is a thinly veiled Macbeth, the stories are timeless. I appreciate that tastes have changed and that his comedies aren't really funny anymore, but even so, they are ahead of their time. If you watch modern adaptations, then you can see where the humour is meant to be.

As for learning them in school, I really can't answer that. I think it is probably down to the fact that he did have so much influence over the direction literature went. If you look at literature before him, you have stuff like Chaucer, which is not in anyway compatible with modern English literature, because it is written in middle English. Shakespeare, on the other hand, mostly uses words that modern people understand.
 
For someone to say that Shakespeare is overrated is just absurd. Do you realize the astounding influence he has had on all of the arts? Do you realize that nearly a dozen movies come out every single year that are total rip-offs of Shakespeare plays?

Of course a play like Midsummers Night Dream isn't going to hold up over a few centuries, because that play is a comedy. None of Shakespeare's comedies are very well revered today simply because our taste in humor has obviously changed since then.

Still, Shakespeare is in no way shape or form overrated. He is viewed (or rated) as the father of modern literature, and to say he isn't would be ridiculious. Who else could fill those shoes? I mean come on, just Hamlet alone makes the man one of the most important writers of all time, let alone his countless other classics that are still as highly regarded today as they were in his day. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone, not just authors, who shares that respect.
 
Aye, and all Shakespear did was simply take the folk stories that were around and made them into plays.

Not to mention the obvious pandering to the roayl family with the kujes of Macbeth(supposedly based on real life, when it was done to make England more favourable) and Henry.

As for the statement, look at 1500 words he made. So that means if I start talking like a complete twat, will I be called a genius? No, I would be carted off to the looney bin.

He did shape our language, but I feel he is studied too much compared to other authors(like Dickens)
 
I've only enjoyed reading Hamlet - brilliant the second time and the 1996 Kenneth Branagh adaption is one of my favourite films ever. Yes some of his works are tedious to boring but without Shakespeare you wouldn't have half of the films that are around today and nearing every film has a Shakespeare reference to it.
 

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