Round 7: Falkon -vs- Adalam

Discussion in 'Debater's League 2010' started by Phoenix, Sep 12, 2010.

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  1. Phoenix

    Phoenix WZCW's First Triple Crown Champion

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    Which wrestler is the better asset to the Professional Wrestling World, Randy Savage or Bret Hart?

    This is a seventh round match in the Debater's League. Falkon is the home debater and gets to choose which side of the debate they will be on and who debates first, but they have 24 hours to make their choice.

    This thread is for DEBATERS ONLY and will end on Friday at 2pm EST.

    Anyone that posts in this thread besides the debaters, league admins, and judges will be infracted!

    Good luck.​
     
  2. Viola Moonlight

    Viola Moonlight I'm Literally Just Here for WZCW

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    Randy Savage... I choose you! Also. I would like Adalam to go first. Good luck, mate.
     
  3. Adalam

    Adalam Renegade

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    Alright, to support Bret Hart, what can I not say? This guy is the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be. Hart had incredible talent in his prime and the legacy of the screw job has in a sense helped boost awareness for WWE and wrestling in general. Bret's run with the WWE/F was obviously his most notable run as WCW had no idea what to do with him, even during their nWo storyline. During his tenure in the WWE, Bret proved that he could draw, putting on incredible feuds with his brother, Owen, Bob Backlund, and Shawn Michaels/ Vince McMahon. Plus, there were his multiple matches that were incredible, facing off against Randy Savage, Davey Boy Smith, Ricky Steamboat, Diesel, Razor Ramon, and his epic submission match against "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. Bret was, and is, the Excellence of Execution, helping to build the WWE to where it is today.
     
  4. Viola Moonlight

    Viola Moonlight I'm Literally Just Here for WZCW

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    "The Macho Man" Randy Savage... one of the very few names that is synonymous to professional wrestling. Uttering his name would be recognised by both the fans of the wrestling world and to the people that lived during his time yet weren't avid watchers of the programming. Hell, there are people today that would know who he was with limited understanding of the business. Why? Well... it's because Randy Savage left a huge impression in professional wrestling, providing to be a great asset to the business. Here's how he did it:

    Unique Character:

    In the world of professional wrestling, one of the main aspects to becoming a great asset is to have a character that sticks out in the minds of the fans and is played to perfection. A lot of people have come through with over-the-top gimmicks to satisfy this criteria, but only a select few took it to new heights and hit the big time... Randy Savage is one of them. He developed a persona known as the "Macho Man" that got people to turn heads and take note of his presence, being declared one of the best in playing a gimmick. The charisma that he portrayed was something rarely paralleled in the business... he had the voice that distinguished from everyone else. Here, take a look at this promo:

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    The clothes, the acting, the intensity... everything he did was done in favour of developing his character, getting the fans to invest their time into him. So much so that Savage became a huge star of the business, which leads me to...

    He Became A HUGE Draw:

    During the Golden Era of the WWF, Savage was one of the biggest names in the business who survived alongside the mega-star Hulk Hogan as one of the big faces of the industry. He appeared in several non-wrestling roles in movies and televised programs, including the role of being the Slim Jim spokesperson. Savage is also one of the few men to hold the WWF/E Championship for longer than a year during one single reign, something unfathomable for 19 years until John Cena achieved that same feat. People tuned into seeing Savage, considering that sections of the crowd still cheered for him during his heel runs (e.g. prior to his face turn of the Mega Powers tag team).


    Onto the rebuttals:

    Randy Savage would rank high up their in talents too, being on par with Bret Hart. Both worked in multiple feuds that achieved great success (Hart/HBK and Savage/Steamboat). There is no denying this. However, Savage didn't need something as tainted as the Montreal Screw-job to help elevate awareness of professional wrestling... he did the hard yards through his character to bring in the business to new heights, and attract a bigger audience.

    As opposed to Randy Savage who achieved success in both companies and competed in some pretty good storylines to boot, evident from his feud with Diamond Dallas Page in WCW and multiple angles in the WWF (most notably his match with Ricky Steamboat). Savage had a character that was easy to understand and adaptable to any situation, whereas Bret Hart had something that only certain people could understand. Randy could run wild anywhere, but Hart was only a star in the WWF.

    Savage had his fair share of excellent feuds too, along with Hulk Hogan, Diamond Dallas Page and the Ultimate Warrior... working with some very diverse characters to boot.

    The same can be said for Randy Savage, he had some epic encounters with the likes of Ricky Steamboat, Jake Roberts, Ric Flair. Both did wonders for the business and helped to build the WWE to what it is today...

    ... but I fail to see what was so unique about Bret Hart. Everything that Hart did, Savage did. Great feuds? Yep. Great matches? Yep. Great Draws? Ooooh Yeah! But the one thing that separates these two men was that Randy Savage developed something that Bret wasn't able to do all that well, and that was something charisma-related and create a gimmick that the fans could get into. Hart wasn't the greatest on the stick and was out-done by many... he did nothing to help accelerate the movement of role-playing in character. Savage didn't create the concept like Gorgeous George, but he elevated it to new heights with some over-the-top that allowed for others down the line to create over-the-top gimmicks themselves without fear of being relegated to the mid/low-card.

    Hart was a great wrestler indeed, and so was Savage. But when it comes down to the acting and the story-telling... Savage was quite the superior man in that respect.
     
  5. Adalam

    Adalam Renegade

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    Alright, consider this me tapping out.
     
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    Cena's Little Helper Mid-Card Championship Winner

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    So, Adalam gave up. FalKon gets all 5 points by default.
     
  7. Phoenix

    Phoenix WZCW's First Triple Crown Champion

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    Falkon is the victor on 20 points to Adalam's 0.
     
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