Round 1: Magneto vs. Spider-Man

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Who wins?

  1. Magneto

  2. Spider-Man

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  1. JGlass

    JGlass Unregistered User

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    Round One

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    Two of Marvel's greatest go head to head here as your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man takes on the cruel and deadly Magneto. Who wins: the Masked Webslinger or the Master of Magnetism?

    FIGHT!
     
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  2. ¡Roján!

    ¡Roján! Down with the trumpets.

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    I have to go with Spiderman, here, but, it's an EXTREMELY close one. This is just based on how Spiderman has put away greater forces than Magneto before. Sure, Magneto has all the mind-powers but, Spiderman is just bad-ass. A quick web squirt to Magneto's face to blind him and KAPOW! see you later, Magneto.

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  3. FunKay the Inevitable

    FunKay the Inevitable People Like Me, We Don't Play

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    I love Spider-Man. Absolutely love the character and everything about him. I have a substantial collection of Spider-Man issues etc...Simply put, he's my guy. However, I can't give him the win here. Spider-Man is a guy who deserves a lot of credit for having to dig deep to fight super powerful foes. He's gone toe-to-toe with Heralds of Galactus before and won. However, Heralds of Galactus don't have magnetic powers do they?

    Spider-Man and Magneto's paths have crossed very few times in history and normally they end in stalemates, however here with a straight man-to-man battle, Magneto has the edge here. I'm almost certain that if not immediately, quickly into the fight, Magneto will realise that Spider-Man wears a fair boat load of metal on him. Magneto could crush Spider-Man's wrists (web-shooters) and then his pelvis (belt which holds web cartridges) ,thus ending his walking capabilities. Subsequently all Magneto would have to do then is crush Peter with a large object and it's a pretty easy win for everyone's favourite Holocaust victim.
     
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  4. DirtyJosé

    DirtyJosé Best angle of all: retirement

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    Magneto has mind powers?

    Yeah, because it's been that easy to deal with Magneto in the past.

    Let's face it; Magneto can manipulate the iron in Spidey's blood to do all kinds of wicked things, and on top of that he's crazy enough to actually do it.
     
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  5. Johnny Scumm

    Johnny Scumm InZayn In The Membrane

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    The people voting for Spider-Man, as much as they may think he'll win, are wrong. Now, I love Spidey, don't get me wrong, but Magneto is a fucking psycho when he really wants to be. You watch the X-Men Films, he's demented. Read the Comics, he's even more demented. Magneto could take out Wolverine if he so wished & he could do Spidey ten times more easily. Any environment, he will have the upper hand. As Jose was saying, he can manipulate the iron in Spidey's blood, or use his surroundings to bring the fight to him.

    Either way, this is going to Magneto.
     
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  6. JGlass

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    Ugh, I love Magneto, he's one of my all time favorite characters, but he's a calculating type of guy, and one that needs some time to put together any substantial attack, and that's not gonna cut it against Spider-Man.

    We all know that Magneto will do ANYTHING for the win, including killing innocents, and that will certainly distract Spider-Man. I suspect Magneto would begin the fight by tossing some cars at schools and offices and what not, forcing Spider-Man to focus on saving the lives of the innocents. He'll use this opportunity to try to attack Spidey from behind, but Spider-Man's Spidey senses will save him from doom.

    From there, Spider-Man has to work on taking down Magneto, as he'll realize the only way to stop Magneto from destroying the city is by stopping him. Catching him is going to be the most difficult part, but Spider-Man can handle it. Magneto will go barreling through the city leaving destruction in his wake, but Spider-Man is agile enough to dodge it and keep up with Magneto. Eventually Spidey is going to wrap a web around Magneto's leg and bring him down to the ground. If coming crashing down to the earth doesn't knock Magneto out cold, a few punches and well placed kicks will.

    It pains me to say it, but round one goes to Spider-Man.
     
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  7. DirtyJosé

    DirtyJosé Best angle of all: retirement

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    I'm sorry, but no JGlass. Magento, having only the time to think on his feet, took down Proteus, a feat Spider-Man simply could not do. And that included going high up into the stratosphere and crashing back down to Earth.
     
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    Proteus doesn't have Spidey senses that would tell him exactly when and how to dodge Magneto's attack.
     
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  9. Remix

    Remix Is a thin rope

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    Um, I thought that the spider sence was a buzzing at the base of his neck. It tells him that there's danger about, sure. But it doesn't give him prescience. And besides, after the "Revenge of the Spider-Slayer" storyline, he doesn't have a spider sence any more. Non issue there JGlass.
     
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  10. JWGunslinger

    JWGunslinger Warrior Forever

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    Magneto picks a big peice of metal up, throws it at Spidey. Spidey tries to block in by putting up a web to block it but it rips right through and crushes Spiderman. Magneto destroys Spiderman.
     
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    Magneto is a fucking boss. He impregnanted Rogue, in an alt universe, and didn't get himself killed in the process.

    He has the power to create subtle forcefeilds that can provide protection against the worst kinds of damage, very handly for protecting against Spider Man's onslaughts.

    Seriously, all Magneto needs to do is just throw buildings at Spidey until he gets crushed and dies.... very simple.
     
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  12. FitFinlay4Life

    FitFinlay4Life What's the craic?

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    I've read Marvel comics for a very, very long time and I have never seen Eric defeat someone with the natural iron in their blood. If he had ever employed this tactic, he would have destroyed any opposition that has ever appeared in front of him.

    As for throwing buildings or attacking innocents? This tournament was set up by monsters then, Classy and DDP you evil fiends, allowing Magneto to revert to standard super villain fare:rolleyes: This match is one on one, no outside interference, to me that means no cheating by attacking innocents too. Unless Spidey is very unlucky, I'd take this to be a very levelling factor.

    Now ignoring the fact that Pete has defeated more heavyweights than Rey Mysterio, plus masters of electricity, sand, water and basically powers of every variable. Add to this his Physics background and quick brain he'd not be as much of a pushover as many might think. Has any character faced more battles he can't win than the web slinger?

    But to prevent any disputes I'm going to pull my power up card, if every competitor has the right to be the strongest incarnation he can be, I choose Cosmic Spiderman who has easily defeated (you guessed it) Magneto.
     
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  13. justinsayne

    justinsayne Cody Rhodes is an excellant

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    So am I suppose to beleive this fight takes place in a location where the is no metal what-so-ever?, yeah bullshit, unless Spidey's webslingers are made of plastic, Magneto would crush them with his ease, likely shattering Spidey's wrist, & possiably slitting them as well, in which case it would only be a matter of time before Spidey bled out. If that argument doesn't work for you then how about this one, Magneto just wraps every metallic object he can find around Spider-man and simply crushes him. Magneto could take Spidey out with relative ease if he really wanted to, he's easily one of the most powerful characters in ALL of comics, & people really need to stop underrating him here. I love Spider-Man, I really do, but the guy really doesn't stand much of a chance in a straight up one on one match.
     
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    I just don't understand how hard this is to comprehend. Spider-Man can see things in slow motion, and at the beginning of the fight this is crucial. The first thing Spidey does is launch a web blast right at Magneto's face. If that hits accurately... and it will... Magneto is going to have an awfully tough time getting the web off of his face. Blinded, Magneto might be able to throw a few metal objects around wildly, but Spider-Man would be able to dodge them easily. From there he could wrap Magneto up webbing, incapacitating the guy, and giving Spidey the win.
     
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  15. justinsayne

    justinsayne Cody Rhodes is an excellant

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    A.) Magneto could easy block the webbing with some random metal object laying around.

    B.)Spider-man doesn't see shit in slow motion, he has fast reflexes & the spider sense, but that does not allow him to see shit in slow motion, just move fast and detect danger, & technically he doesn't even have the spider-sense anymore.

    C.)How the hell is Spidey going to shoot web at Magneto after Magneto uses his powers to destroy the web-shooters on Spider-man's wrists?
     
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  16. Mac Attack

    Mac Attack I'm neat.

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    It'd very hard to comprehend becaus it doesn't make any sense. ;)

    Seeing things in slow motion is useless if everything is being thrown at you. You tell me how Spidey will escape six building being thrown at him in a way that makes him dead center of a perfect cube. You tell me how he shoots out web if his web shooter is broken. It doesn't matter how much time he has to react if he's getting his ass kicked by a bunch of metal objects.

    Spider Sense has failed before. His been hit with stuff a bunch of times. You can't possibly say he'll dodge everything.


    The first thing Magneto will do is destroy Spidey's web shooters... So I'm not sure your plan works.

    Spidey has misses shots as well. He's not as perfect as you're making him.


    You're probaly right here.....If he had web to shoot.


    Firstly, I have never seen Spidey take one shot and fully blind someone, secondly, as long as Spidey has some form of metal on him Magneto can detect him. Not so blind after all.

    This is a loose definition of incapacitate you got going on here JGlass. Considering Magneto can levitate he would still be mobile unless knocked out.
     
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  17. JGlass

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    Oh Macios... time to be educated.

    :lmao: Magneto is powerful, but he doesn't exactly have the ability to bring down six buildings simultaneously and send them flying at the same person. Even so, are we forgetting that this is Spider-Man? He's not exactly a B-list superhero, he'd be able to jump out of the way right in the nick of time.

    And who says his webshooter is made of metal?

    Not everything, but he'll certainly be able to dodge enough things to get some offense in on Magneto.

    It's never been specified whether Spidey's webshooters are metalic or plastic, but being that he's constantly slamming into walls and he needs the utmost flexibility, once could assume it's not metal.

    Against speedsters, sure. Guess who isn't a speedster?

    And you continue to fail at proving why he wouldn't.

    Clearly you haven't seen much of what Spidey can do. If that web shot splatters all over Magneto's face, how is he going to see?

    How is he going to levitate when he's completely bound with webbing? Evidence suggests that Magneto needs use of his hands to utilize his powers, and if he's bound he won't be able to do that.

    Also, if he's totally bound, Spider-Man could deliver a few super powered punches, and those WOULD knock Magneto out.

    Spider-Man wins.

    A) Who's faster? Who's quicker on the draw? The 20-30something in Spider-Man with super reflexes, or the 70-80something Magneto, who has no super reflexes?

    B) Spider-Man's super reflexes and Spider-Sense may as well let him see shit in slow motion. He can dodge punches, bullets, anything thrown his way. Why wouldn't he be able to dodge something thrown at him like a car?

    C) What are Spidey's web blasters made out of, and where is the proof? Until You show me that, I'm going to keep arguing that he uses web blasters.

    Oh, and I know he lost a whole bunch of powers after some were retconned, but we're not using up to date Spider-Man only. If we were doing that, Magneto would be fucked because he's a hero now and he wouldn't destroy public and private property to beat Spider-Man. As such, I'm basing my arguments on a version of Spider-Man that does have his Spider senses, as you and Macios and everyone else are basing your Magneto arguments on a villainous Magneto.
     
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  18. Mac Attack

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    I erased everything else just because this should cover it all. Magneto wins because there are several types of metals in the web shooter. All of which could be manipulated. And when that happens Spidey is screwed.

    http://marvel.com/universe/Spider-Man's_Web-Shooters
     
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  19. The Holy One

    The Holy One What's really good?

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    From the exact same web-site that you used:

    If you don't believe me, here's the link: http://marvel.com/universe/Spider-Man_(Peter_Parker) just look in the Paraphernalia section on the left side.

    The way I see this fight going is Magneto throwing every metal object in the vicinity which Spidey uses as an extreme cardio workout. He webs Magneto's face. Then while Erik is trying to clear his way to see, Spidey cocoons Magneto's whole lower part of his party and proceeds to wham on the face until Magneto quits or passes out.
     
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  20. Mac Attack

    Mac Attack I'm neat.

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    First off when I clicked the link there was no text there, and I'm not one who likes to go snooping around. and I double checked another site and it said the base was metal. So that debunks that rumor.


    EDIT: And now it all magically came back........ Very suspicious


    Secondly, I think the Spidey fans are over estimating the Speed of Spiderman. Especially if the first thing Magneto does is go Air Bourne... From what I am getting is Spidey gets one shot, but do you really think Magneto is not going to move at all?
     
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  21. The Holy One

    The Holy One What's really good?

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    You sure about that? Might need to check that link again, and I'm just using the same info source that you are and it disproves what you posted.

    It's obvious that you're over estimating Magneto's speed. Whether he's in the air or not, all Spidey has to do is get to a distance where he can hit with the web shooters. I doubt Magneto can keep him away. Spider-Man isn't Wolverine.
     
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  22. FitFinlay4Life

    FitFinlay4Life What's the craic?

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    You checked another site? You realise this is from the official Marvel site? Call me old fashioned but I believe that the creators of Spiderman MIGHT just have the definitive opinion on what his gadgets are made off ;).
     
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  23. Remix

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    Um If Magneto can block a half dozen thermonuclear weapons, move asteroids and lift over 30,000 tons. I suspect that he'd have no problem tearing doen a few buildings. And seeing as he's got incredable control of his powers, He'd eventually his Spiderman. He won't be able to dodge forever.

    Forcefield that can withstand thermonuclear explosions > webslinging and punshes.

    Spidey's webslingers may or may not be metal but his bones on the other hand ARE made of metal. (so are yours) If Magneto can control nonferrous metals via magnetism (and he can) then he can reduce Spidey to a pile of goo by taking control of the calcium in his bones.

    Magneto has reactions over 15 times faster than a normal man. He may not have super speed but he might as well have.

    The web hits Magneto's forcefield. Magneto cooks Spiderman by blasting him with infrared radiation (another of his abilities).

    Because the webs wouldn't reach him. He's got a half dozen ways to block them from teleporting through wormholes to manipulating the gravity so they miss.

    He can increase his own strength, you know.

    Except that he DOES have super reflexes.

    1) He doesn't have a spider sence any more. 2) the spider sence is a fucking buzzing at the back of his head. It tells him there's trouble afoot but he could tell that with his eyes. It doesn't make him see things in slow motion or into the future.

    And I'll argue that the webs wouldn't reach him and that Magneto could kill Spiderman in about three million ways.
     
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    You don't think Spider-Man is going to be able to send a gooey face full of web Magneto's way while Ol' Bucket Head is busy lifting up building and stuff? He needs to use incredible amounts of focus and energy to lift and move such heavy objects, there's no way he'd be able to bring up his forcefield in time.

    If he's busy attacking, he won't be able to defend.

    Major :rolleyes:

    First of all, Spider-Man's webslingers are not metal, as proven by The Holy One and Marvel's website. Secondly, how often do we see him use this power in the comics? Hardly ever, and I actually can't remember him ever doing it. Why is that? Because it would require so much focus and energy to manipulate the metal at the elemental level that it would leave him vulnerable for attacks. In the time it takes for Magneto to manipulate that level of metal, Spider-Man could probably buy a pretzel from a street vendor, contemplate whether he wants to use yellow or spicy brown mustard, and then kick Magneto in the nads and wrap up an easy win.

    Once again, he can't go from attacking to defense in a split second.

    And another one of his abilities we hardly ever see.

    Seriously dude, I don't care if he could blow up the world, in a fight with someone as quick as Spider-Man, he's not going to have the time to use some of his more devastating powers.

    More powers he can't use...

    That's all well and good, but to make himself stronger he'd have to focus, which is hard when you have a face full of Spider-Web and a masked vigilante punching and kicking the shit out of you.


    1) I already explained this, we're not relying on only the current version of any hero. If we were, Magneto would be fucked because he's a hero now and he wouldn't be willing to causes massive amounts of damage to the city to beat Spider-Man in a fight.

    2) From Marvel's wikia...

    You did, and you failed.
     
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