Round 1: Kenshrio vs. Kirby

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Who wins?

  1. Kenshiro

  2. Kirby

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  1. JGlass

    JGlass Unregistered User

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    Round One

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    One of Japan's most beloved anime characters takes on Japan's most beloved little pink puff ball! In a battle of strength vs. puff, can Kenshiro pound Kirby into the ground, or does Kirby float on to the next round?

    FIGHT!
     
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  2. One Punch Doug Crashin

    One Punch Doug Crashin I AM INVINSIBLE!

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    So since nobody's even bothering I'll start.

    From Wiki
     
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  3. DirtyJosé

    DirtyJosé Best angle of all: retirement

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    Ha.

    When ever one needs physical contact to do battle with Kirby, it's a lost cause. He has no bones to break. It's not even clear in this case whether he even has a nervous system to disrupt with pressure point attacks. Kenshiro will not know how to fight Kirby, and will end up sucked up and spat out. After that, he will be at the disadvantage; he is susceptible to his own attack style, which Kirby will possess after absorbing him.

    Kirby wins.
     
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  4. One Punch Doug Crashin

    One Punch Doug Crashin I AM INVINSIBLE!

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    My friend you forget that all he needs is meridian points. you don't HAVE to have physical contact in order to hit those. All he needs is to be attempted to be sucked and bam. One meridian point later and Kirby is already dead.
     
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  5. DirtyJosé

    DirtyJosé Best angle of all: retirement

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    Does that look like Kirby to you? Kenshiro is trained to fight one type of enemy only, and that is other humans/humanoids. His training is almost useless when he does not know the physiology of his opponent.
     
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  6. justinsayne

    justinsayne Cody Rhodes is an excellant

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    Since when do creampuffs have meridian points?, Kirby inhales Kenshiro, swallows, absorbs his power & heads onto the next round.
     
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  7. Justin Michaels

    Justin Michaels Dark Match Jobber

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    Kenshiro's style of fighting would prevail in almost any situation with a humanoid life form. However, that is not the case with Kirby. Before he could find a weakness, Kirby would have absorbed him and used his own fighting style against him.
     
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  8. JGlass

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    My first thought for this battle was the same as Jose's: How is Kenshiro going to beat Kirby when Kirby has no pressure points, bones, or anything that Kenshiro would normally take advantage of?

    Kenshiro's only real advantage here is that he can take crazy amounts of damage before even showing signs of injury, but Kirby isn't exactly a stranger to dishing out insane amounts of punishment. The Rainbow Sword is enough to slay even the toughest baddies, and he has swords, fire, ice, electricity, spikes, bombs, and many other types of damage at his disposal.

    It would be a long fight, but Kenshiro's offensive strengths are completely negated by Kirby's defensive strengths.
     
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  9. Shotaro

    Shotaro WZCW's James Howard

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    Meteorite Face Breaking Kick A kick technique Kenshiro uses that against the Taishan Temple enforcer Denki Saito, which causes his head to split vertically in half. Appears in the second manga pilot.

    North Star Softness Ripping Slash A technique Kenshiro used against Heart that allowed him to penetrate his gummy flesh and strike his vital points.

    Kirby is either one giant lung (he has eyes and therefore a brain so that's right out, his body must contain lungs, Kenshiro can either split Kirby in half with the first attack or penetrate his soft squidgy flesh and punch him IN THE LUNG with the second.

    I've not decided for this match yet but to say Kenshiro has no chance at all is wrong, he has a chance. Burden of proof falls to Kriby guys to prove Kirby is totally invulnerable to BOTH of those attacks or the little pink guy is in trouble.
     
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  10. DirtyJosé

    DirtyJosé Best angle of all: retirement

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    You really don't know what you are talking about, do you? The burden of proof is on you to back up your claims about lungs and brains; what has been confirmed by the official source is that he lacks a skeletal structure, and is highly elastic (enough to "swallow" objects and beings much much much bigger than he is). If you think you have a point, YOU need to prove Kirby even has vital points to strike. All other evidence (ALL OF IT) points to Kirby being merely pink mass with eyes and a mouth.
     
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  11. Shotaro

    Shotaro WZCW's James Howard

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    There's a Kirby anime, in one episode it's shown that he has a stomach, if he has a stomach then it stands to reason he has other vital organs, therefore Kirby has an anatomy and therefore vital points to strike.

    If Kirby has an anatomy, he's suddenly vulnerable to almost all of Kenshiro's attacks.

    Also tell me how he could survive after being split in half (which is trivial to Kenshiro)
     
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  12. DirtyJosé

    DirtyJosé Best angle of all: retirement

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    It's not trivial to Kenshiro: as has been pointed out earlier, all of his training is for humans/humanoids. His knowledge of Meridian Points, the ENTIRE BASIS OF EVERYTHING HE DOES is useless without prior knowledge of Kirby's body. At the same time, Kenshiro IS weak to his own techniques, and Kirby's absorption process will grant him the same knowledge.

    Also, if Kirby turns into his unbreakable stone form, what good are Meridian Points? Kenshiro is just outclassed here in almost every possible way.
     
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  13. Shotaro

    Shotaro WZCW's James Howard

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    I see, I'm now sold on Kirby, motherfucker is OP. well played Jose (I will admit my research in Kenshiro was light, at best, but someone had to argue against the little pink guy)

    EDIT: Goddammit! Why do both guys names begin with a K?

    EDIT THE SECOND : PMed Crock to see if he can fix it.
     
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  14. The Doctor

    The Doctor Great and Devious

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    The thing is, Kirby is NOT completely invulnerable to being flattened or punctured. Even if he inhales Kenshiro, the most he will likely turn into is Fighter Kirby, and Kenshiro has plenty of techniques and skills as well as the raw power needed to flatten the puffball.

    That said, JGlass and Jose raised some great points about Kirby's offensive skills vs. Kenshiro's defensive skills. I just don't think the fight is as one-sided or impossible as others do.
     
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  15. DirtyJosé

    DirtyJosé Best angle of all: retirement

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    Not "Fighter Kirby"...

    "Kirby of the North Star".

    Those techniques and skills? Kirby gets them too.

    Yes, Kirby can be injured by conventional means (details of which I will not share here just yet :p), but the point is that much of Kenshiro's offensive potential is wasted here.
     
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  16. The Doctor

    The Doctor Great and Devious

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    Fair point. However "much" does not equal "all". Kenshiro can dish out and take a ton of damage, so even if Kirby can hit him with a few Final Cutters or the Rainbow Sword, and even if Kenshiro can't do his traditional pressure point attacks, that doesn't stop the fact that he is one strong guy. If he catches Kirby, he could crush or stretch the puffball to his limits, and with a cute jingle, Kirby will dance off the screen.
     
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  17. Bernkastel

    Bernkastel Reaper of Miracles
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    Kenshiro's attacks don't target the bones or muscles, they target mystical tsubo points on the body that when hit cause the body to explode. Does Kirby have a body that is set up any differently than a humans? I'd imagine that Kirby has a brain, heart, stomach, and lungs roughly located in the same spot just in a round pink body.

    If so, Kenshiro can cause Kirby to explode by touching him faster than Kirby can suck him in. And Kirby isn't Majin Buu... he doesn't regenerate.

    BTW where is Kenshiro's bio page? I covered how his powers work in detail.
     
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  18. DirtyJosé

    DirtyJosé Best angle of all: retirement

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    I posted a picture depicting the Meridian Points his abilities shoot for. Tell me how that applies to Kirby.
     
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    If Kirby were to gain all of Kenshiro's attacks and powers to the point where they were even, they'd kill each other. This isn't like his fight with Goku were he could spam energy blasts. Kenshiro [or kirby] would have the power to heal himself with the Hokuto Shinken while the other would be trying to use it to destroy. Eventually they'd probably end up killing each other with the same attacks.
     
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  20. DirtyJosé

    DirtyJosé Best angle of all: retirement

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    But you have no basis to claim that Kirby's body is similar to what Kenshiro has trained for. He has eyes and a stomach and that is all that has been confirmed. Everything else is baseless speculation. Animals in nature have organs in different spots than humans; is stands to reason that Kenshiro just wouldn't know how to approach Kirby at first.
     
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    I'm asking if it doesn't. You're the Kirby expert, find me something that suggests that Kirby's body isn't like a human's, because right now I'm under the assumption that Kirby's body is set up like a human's except it's shaped like a little round pink ball with unlimited stomach capacity.

    So you're saying that Kenshiro is an idiot and wouldn't be able to modify his attacks to work against Kirby's body style. That's completely false. It wouldn't take a genius to realize that Kirby isn't a human, but under the assumption that his tsubo points worked the same way Kenshiro could kill him as easily as touching him.
     
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  22. Arashi

    Arashi Pre-Show Stalwart

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    My question is if Kirby has a stomach and such, wouldn't that make his stomach susceptible to attacks there? If do damage to Kirby's stomach wouldn't Kenshrio defeat him?
     
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  23. DirtyJosé

    DirtyJosé Best angle of all: retirement

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    Sure, there's a chance. Just remember that Kirby must have one tough stomach for all the stuff he's able to digest. He swallows stars. Fucking stars.
     
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    I'm not concerned about his stomach. What are some of Kirby's physical speed feats? I'm under the impression that he moves as fast as a regular human. My scenario for the fight is that Kirby tries to suck Kenshiro in and swallow him, but at the last second Keshiro reaches out and touches Kirby's tsubo points on his head, making him explode.

    Because even as a pink balloon its assumed that Kirby's tsubo points are located in the same places as a humans.
     
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  25. DirtyJosé

    DirtyJosé Best angle of all: retirement

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    Assumed by who? You? Nah, sorry, you're gonna have to come up with something better than that.

    I'll give Kenshiro that the longer the fight goes, the better his chances get. The more he gets to figure out what he's up against, the better the odds of him figuring out how to attack Kirby. However, one wrong move and it's over for him.
     
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