Report: More Mini Wrestlers?

[Jack-Hammer]

According to PWInsider.com, WWE has been looking for a lot of mini wrestlers and personalities. At Extreme Rules, the report indicates that WWE might have a role for mini wrestler Short Sleeve Sampson for the El Torito vs. Hornswoggle match on the ER kickoff show, possibly as a referee.

Personally, I'm of the opinion....why? Between El Torito, Hornswoggle, Santino Marella, Emma and the soon to be arriving Adam Rose, WWE's well covered when it comes to harmless comedic characters to be used as filler. And, let's face it, serving as comedy relief is all that minis are gonna be used for, and that comedy relief is hardly the stuff dreams are made of. To be honest, I'm a bit surprised that some sort of human rights organization or representatives of little people or whatever haven't started chewing on WWE's ass in the past for the way they're portrayed; especially since there are a couple of hit reality shows involving people with dwarfism. After all, society is all about political correctness these days, to a fault really. In the report I read, the term "midget" was used and many with dwarfism consider it an offensive term. As I alluded to, minis aren't exactly portrayed in a dignified manner and never really have been in any pro wrestling company.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Who says minis have to be comedic? Watch some Lucha Libre. Some minis are incredibly talented and entertaining. I'd have a mixed 6 man title of 2 minis and one superstar per team. The combinations that can be performed are phenomenal.

I'm all for it.

 

[Dan Severn's Moustache]

Who says minis have to be comedic? Watch some Lucha Libre. Some minis are incredibly talented and entertaining. I'd have a mixed 6 man title of 2 minis and one superstar per team. The combinations that can be performed are phenomenal.

I'm all for it.

Whilst I'm most certainly in agreement with your sentiment about the mini wrestlers commanding a great presence in the ring (even El Torito demonstrates this), you have to remember that this is WWE we're talking about here, and you know WWE are going to be keen to exploit them for "comedy" as opposed to have them put on compelling television matches.

WWE had a mini division during the early Attitude Era, and it absolutely tanked. Like JH said, we have enough comedy talent to satisfy that aspect of the audience, and more than enough to serve as contingencies. I don't see the minis getting used to their proper potential in WWE; they're much better suited in AAA, where there is less focus on comedy and more focus on in-ring action.

 

[Quinn30Colo]

I don't care what anyone says, Midgets make the world a better place. When have you not seen a midget on the street and not had a smile come to your face with their itty bitty arms and their pumpkin heads.

Even angry midgets bring a smile to your face because they normally will head butt someone in the nuts which is always funny unless you're the one to have your nuts destroyed.

Don't ever get a midget confused with a dwarf though, They get pissed at that.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Whilst I'm most certainly in agreement with your sentiment about the mini wrestlers commanding a great presence in the ring (even El Torito demonstrates this), you have to remember that this is WWE we're talking about here, and you know WWE are going to be keen to exploit them for "comedy" as opposed to have them put on compelling television matches.

WWE had a mini division during the early Attitude Era, and it absolutely tanked. Like JH said, we have enough comedy talent to satisfy that aspect of the audience, and more than enough to serve as contingencies. I don't see the minis getting used to their proper potential in WWE; they're much better suited in AAA, where there is less focus on comedy and more focus on in-ring action.

This is Triple H's WWE though. He's a former wrestler. He has more of an open mind than Vince did. Things change. 15 years ago would you think a guy like Daniel Bryan would make it? 25 years ago it'd be unheard of.

I've been watching 1996-1998 WWF and I know what you're talking about. "had a mini division" is a very nice way of saying "they scattered mini matches in a few cards because their talent pool was so thin". The execution was garbage.

Fans today are a LOT more receptive to athleticism and midgets. Midgets have several TV shows nowadays. There are entire indy companies full of midget wrestlers and they damn near always draw better than the regular indies. It's a novelty. Sure it'll start out as exploitation but that's because that's society's expectation. You then evolve and show them their talents.

I don't think WWE will make it 100% comedy. "Fun" is more the word for it. Of course, Lawler's outdated hillbilly ass won't call it that way, but that's fine.

What do you think of my idea of having a 6 man mixed tag title. 1 superstar and 2 midgets. I mix it because it opens up more spot possibilities (and let's be honest, these types of matches are there for the spots). Or hell, just a 6 man mini tag title.

You can't tell me the WWE audience wouldn't love the shit out of someone like Mascarita Sagrada: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzd8bbVeH-c

Someone who is super elite (like Sagrada) could be an incredible underdog and maybe become one half of the tag champs.

Also, to take a page out of the Lucha Libre playbook, how about clones? I don't mean like Doink and Dink where it was goofy. I mean like legitimate talents.

Just throwing ideas out there. There is so much that can be done with minis. I'm honestly surprised it hasn't been used more in the US.

BTW, El Torito was Mascarita Dorada in Mexico. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brdEp5Gue94

 

[JoeFromTomsRiver]

Who says minis have to be comedic? Watch some Lucha Libre. Some minis are incredibly talented and entertaining. I'd have a mixed 6 man title of 2 minis and one superstar per team. The combinations that can be performed are phenomenal.

I'm all for it.

A mixed 6 man title of 2 minis and one superstar per team. You want to see this? It takes all kinds I guess.

I agree that they don't need to be comedic though. Evil creepy midgets in the Wyatt family? Sign me up.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

A mixed 6 man title of 2 minis and one superstar per team. You want to see this? It takes all kinds I guess.

I agree that they don't need to be comedic though. Evil creepy midgets in the Wyatt family? Sign me up.

Watch it in Mexico man.

Mini vs Mini is cool and all, but because of the height/strength difference, the spots that a mini and a superstar can pull off are incredible. Like I said, it's essentially all about the in ring spots for the premise of those matches.

Or you can just do a "mixed tag" with clones like they do in Mexico also.

Creepy midgets, and midgets in stables in general is a great idea.

 

[JoeFromTomsRiver]

Mini vs Mini is cool and all, but because of the height/strength difference, the spots that a mini and a superstar can pull off are incredible.

I understand that we all suspend disbelief when watching wrestling. If we were unable to do so, we wouldn't be fans.

Its hard enough for me take Mysterio seriously in matches w/ guys who would crush him in a second in reality. But when actual MIDGETS are doing spots with "normal" wrestlers, I'm done. No interest and I find it embarrassing.

It happens w/ Hornswoggle and Torito where they get some offense in on 3MB or or Los Matadores and I really don't want to see any more of it.

Even if the actual spots are funny and well done, the fact that the spots are even HAPPENING is what I can't deal with. If its just a dive off the top rope that the guy wasn't expecting, fine. If its a sneak attack where the midget low blows the guy, fine. But to actually "wrestle" each other? Just not my thing.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

I understand that we all suspend disbelief when watching wrestling. If we were unable to do so, we wouldn't be fans.

Its hard enough for me take Mysterio seriously in matches w/ guys who would crush him in a second in reality. But when actual MIDGETS are doing spots with "normal" wrestlers, I'm done. No interest and I find it embarrassing.

It happens w/ Hornswoggle and Torito where they get some offense in on 3MB or or Los Matadores and I really don't want to see any more of it.

Even if the actual spots are funny and well done, the fact that the spots are even HAPPENING is what I can't deal with. If its just a dive off the top rope that the guy wasn't expecting, fine. If its a sneak attack where the midget low blows the guy, fine. But to actually "wrestle" each other? Just not my thing.

Did you watch either video I posted? It's not like they're punching guys. They're using leverage and speed to confuse and keep them off balance. The difference in size between some of the bigger midgets and a guy like Mysterio or Daniel Bryan isn't really that much. I'm not saying I want to see Big Show bump when a mini dropkicks him. I'm saying the double team and combo moves, along with the high flying is pretty sweet.

If it doesn't do it for you then it doesn't. I personally find it highly entertaining and I feel like a lot of other people would too.

 

[Softcore Holly]

I can't say I'm interested. Sure they can probably have great matches, but we all know they'll be regulated to stupid comedy segments. For example I have no doubt that El Torito can wow us in the ring, but instead he's in a bull-suit running his head into people's asses for cheap laughs. And if that's how they use a man of his talents I don't see how bringing in even more of them will be any better.

The fact of the matter is there's a whole locker room of guys on the main roster and NXT that I much rather see get the screen time. If they really want more of these guys give them their own show on the WWE network, leave Raw,ME and SD for the talent that's already there.

 

[JoeFromTomsRiver]

Did you watch either video I posted? It's not like they're punching guys. They're using leverage and speed to confuse

I just watched the Mascarita Sagrada video.

Most of the guys he's in the ring with are very small luchadors. If you want there to be a "luchadors division" in the WWE, with matches that are like what I saw in the video, midgets included, it wouldn't bother me as much as I stated before. It would be like their own little segment of the show.

I still don't want it, but its not as bad as I envisioned when you said 6-man division w/ each having a midget. I was thinking of the existing teams all "adopting" a midget partner or something.

 

[Pedigree1]

Jack Hammer hammered a great point! WWE has enough of comedic aspects with Hornswoggle,El Torito,Santino,Emma,and soon to be Adam Rose.. I personally dont mind the mini wreslters,a lot of them are quite athletic and can go...

Plus their built like tanks,strong as all hell.. The strength difference between the Minis and say Mysterio and Daniel Bryan really is not much of a difference.. I dont mind them,just dont turn it into a comedy aspect.. If we have creepy Minis say in the Wyatt Clan,or a Shield Mini,then it would be cool!

 

[The Brain]

Having a midget division would be awful. There is no way it would be anything but a comedy sideshow. That's just what WWE does. Regardless of how talented the performers are the matches would be a joke. The wrestlers would jump on the announcer's lap or bit the referee's ass. Ha Ha Ha. WWE just can't take the little guys seriously. El Torito is proof.

 

[JT Strike's Alt]

In other words goodbye hornswoggle

they're wanting to make el torrito a big star, and hornswoggle can't wrestle good so he will be getting a future endeavoured when new fresh midgets can actually wrestle.

I'm not interested in anymore midgets i don't want the midgest we got now, its just not entertainment to me.

 

[Jericho91]

The thing about mini-wrestlers to me personally is that they give off a comical impression. Not that they're doing it on purpose but its just that the world is used to seeing non-midgets wrestle rather than seeing midgets wrestle. I also can't help but laugh to see how Hornswoggle and El Torito get at it in the ring. If I was in charge of the WWE I'd give them comical roles. I wouldn't have them do anything serious.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I'm all for seeing The Haiti Kid's Kid coming out for a match. These guys have their place. Something still fun but not quite Hornswaggle/Chavo. WWE has plenty of filler. Little guys have their place too, just keep it limited and somewhat realistic. They're better than Emma.

 

[#HELLNO]

The only way that they could make this work is by giving them their own show, why not take 'Superstars' off from a Thursday spot & give it to the minis. I mean with the Network there is so much that can be done, bring in some of the mini's that are in AAA, they are amazing. Watch some matches that have Mascarita Divina or like TWJC said, Mascarita Sagrada in them, they are awesome talents. Also it would be fun to see something different, even if there was only 2-3 matches on the show.

 

[fenderjapan]

They try this every few years and no one cares. And its not the mini's fault. No one is going to take them seriously when you have them goring Jerry Lawler at the HOF ceremony.