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Punk: 1- It wasn't the plan 2- Fantasy return scenario

jeffrey9800

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1 - Please, just please!

I've read some reports suggesting that if CM Punk comes back tonight WWE fooled us all. "They fooled us all" .

Let's make one thing perfectly clear, and those who don't agree with me please read this carefully : IT WASN'T THE PLAN ALL ALONG!

Reason for this is quite simple :

Why have Kane eliminate Punk at the Royal Rumble, thus preparing a feud between the 2, only for him to disappear at Raw the next day... AND ... Have Kane lose clean to Daniel Bryan last week which means there is no possibility of a Kane(In his actual character) vs Punk program. Punk has to be considered at least at the same level as Bryan, if Punk comes back he goes for Orton or Batista or Trips, NOT Kane, which makes no sense to think that Punk getting eliminated by Kane and have him leave the next day was the plan. Punk leaving was NOT scripted.

IF he's back, it only means that they talked and they just reached an agreement maybe in the past few weeks/days for im to come back and that's it. They might make us think it was the plan, but I won't buy it, and hopefully none of you will.

2- Perfect world FANTASY : Austin comes out to open Raw, says Punk is a coward for leaving just like he did 10 years ago, he says it makes him puke that he left and says he would whip his ass if he was here. Punk's music hits, takes the mike, says : Got ya! with a smile and runs down to te ring to figt Austin. Making us believe that pulling a Austin was Punk's final attempt to get Austin to fight him....

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Oh man I love your scenario!! I doubt that awesomeness would actually happen, though. But about a year ago, wasn't the rumor mill spouting about a possible Punk v Austin match at Mania someday? Regarding the first part of your post, I agree with you that it was not scripted. They were just too quiet about it. For Vince to wait as long as he did to even mention it suggests to me that Punk resigned at that time and they've managed to keep it a secret. People will never be convinced, though. There are people that to this day still think that Austin walking out and Montreal were huge works.
 
You're confused. This isn't black or white, A or B, one or the other. If Punk comes back tonight, it doesn't have to have been planned all along or unplanned but they recently came to an agreement.

Remember that report a while back that Vince believed Punk went home to nurse an injury? If Punk comes back, it shows that report is true and Vince was right. Punk got hurt, needed some time off, and they concocted this whole scheme. Because, clearly, the plan was for Punk vs. Kane at Elimination Chamber and then Punk vs. Triple H at WrestleMania. It's clear they had to rebook that on the fly. But it's more likely that he got hurt and this time helped him heal than he really walked away and then they came to an agreement to bring him back.

As for the fantasy scenario, I don't see Austin coming back this year. He didn't want to fight on a card headlined by The Rock, I don't know that I can see him coming back on a card where Hogan is around. I think Austin's match with Punk will be saved for a WrestleMania in Texas, probably 32.
 
LMAO this cm punk walking out was never a work. Wwe would never work bother working the internet. Only the marks would believe such things, even though it makes no sense or what so ever from a storyline and business standpoint. Just like they believed denying bryan from entering the rumble was a work and thus resulting him going more over and being in the title match lol.
 
Here's my fantasy layout for Punk's return........

Bryan is in the ring the night after Wrestlemania talking about his win over Triple H in a 3 Stages Of Hell Match a loud "CM Punk/"Yes!" chant starts suddenly the pyro goes off and Kane runs to the ring to beat Bryan down then Punk runs in apparently to make the save and gives Bryan the GTS and joins The Authority as Phillip Brooks Executive Vice President Of Standards & Practices
 
Very simply, he has two reasons he is taking the time out:-

1) He wasn't "fit" to be working for some time but was getting docs to clear him to compete. He decided to stop this and allow them to "unclear him" or the injury got too great to continue.

2) He had a period of time off built into his contract last time that he never got to take. Most big WWE guys take at least 2 months off a year these days so it's not a shocker Punk would have a similar thing in his deal. His long title reign prevented him using it so he uses it now - hence why they can't really "touch him" for it.

Of course the removing him from things is how they can punish him if any of these is true and he has "stood his ground". But logically they couldn't take the risk of him show in up as part of the show officially last night. His "pipebomb" this time would have been more severe... imagine if he'd gone off on them erasing him and invoked he who must not be named... "I'm getting erased...maybe I should kill someone, then I'll deserve it" type thing... bad but entirely possible.

I think the opportunity missed last night was a very simple and old trick that would have worked if Punk was there (I think he might have been but not used, perhaps meeting) or not... The old "empty seat in the front row". Of course the fans would know/speculate who had bought it and it could be referred to throughout the night... if it remains empty, do it again next week...

If Punk was there and they were gonna pull the trigger... No "Cult" intro he just takes his seat during a match or segment he wants to... the chant would be deafening and he sits there and baits whoever he is gonna face, be that Dave or Trips...waving... Dave gets pissed and confronts him and it kicks off into a fight... Punk gets on the mic and drops his pipebomb.

about how last time Triple H was in charge he got fired cos it was an unsafe working environment and this is no better so he went home and took the break he was entitled too, yet that was some kind of sin and he was suddenly blackballed worse that Ricky Steamboat for daring to want to see his kid... they started to erase him in favor of a guy who attacks paying customers, not in self defence as he once had to but cos he is an overrated, overpaid crony who happens to have a movie with Disney, who Vince wants to be part of SOOOO bad. He mentions how they tried to dupe the fans with fake concussions when the reality is his docs just said no more for a while. Perhaps asking why they won't have Ali in the Hall of Fame..oh thats right cos concussions really do damage people so faking them isn't cool...

Punk then goes on about his contract - yes it's up, yes he's unsure of what to do and wanted some time to decide without Vince pressuring, without the machine's incessant demands, without Trips fake "advice" and yeah without the the fans because, much as he loves them all they're not why he does this... he does this for him and if it's not what he wants any more then he's gone in a second cos I got a girl and a life I can live without any of this... he has one dream left to conquer (pointed dig at lesnar and Heyman) and it was promised to him, just like it was promised to Davey Boy Smith, Rick Rude and a lot of other guys he grew up idolising... to headline Mania for the title. Cos they had "IT", but their time was never quite right or yada yada yada... so when his time came to be promised, he got it in writing... but even now Vince seems determined to renege on that to force feed Dave to you cos it's in his deal and Vince feels pissing CM Punk off is a better option that pissing Disney off...big mistake...

Trips tries to come down with Steph:-

Stop right there Paul.... If you bring anyone out here bring the organ grinder... I know he's back there... come on down Vince...

Vince reluctantly comes down glowering at Triple H for letting it get this far, he tries to make nice with Punk, shake hands etc.

Vince: "This is not the time or the place..."

Punk: "Wrong... it's the right place cos you came to my home town and sold these people tickets on the hope I'd be here, knowing you intended not for me to be here... if I hadn't bought my ticket I wouldn't have been... had your Stuffed Animal not been an ass then I wouldn't be in this ring but since I am here and you are here and we both know what my contract says I am invoking my legally contraced right to main event Wrestlemania 30, be that a triple threat or facing Batista or Orton and I have no problem tying this up in court, getting an injunction to stop you even holding Mania 30 cos I already have a case... you know it and I know it... I got a lawyer (Otunga) who loves working against injustices like this... so there'll be no Montreal's in New Orleans... this is gonna be as shoot as it gets... but I back up what I say, I am not gonna risk nothing...

If I can't do it...can't win that title at Mania, you and the WWE Universe will never see or hear from me again, erase me do what you like... but if I win it make no mistake Vince, Paul, Stephanie I will... I walked out of here the champion once if I get anything other than the utmost respect I have earned...the next time I walk out as champion it's permanently and if I do that those belts, your legacy, the whole damned WWE Universe...rots in my basement drawer...

Come Mania 30 he does win but Austin as ref stunners him to close the show setting up next year!
 
Can we just stop with these CM Punk threads for a bit? I know I have made one in the past but after tonight its time to move on until we hear word from the horses mouth on anything going forward.

Also a big F-U to all those who said it was a work the whole time because you were calling everyone stupid. Well, Its not. And if he does come back, Its still not a work. The guy is legitimately pissed off and wants no part...right now. Just everyone accept what he wants and move on. Pay attention to the product right now.
 
Personally, at this point even if Punk and WWE reached a deal, I'm not sure I'd want Punk in a match at WrestleMania XXX. Keep people in the dark for a little bit longer; since putting them in the dark to begin with helped add even more interest into the product. Though, there's still a chance he could at least show up in some way.

This is MY fantasy return scenario for Punk- Daniel Bryan beats HHH at WMXXX, goes into the main event, wins the title, and then as he's celebrating in the ring...he turns around to see CM Punk smiling from ear to ear at his indy buddy. They hug it out in the ring and Punk raises Bryan's hand in victory. Like when Eddie showed up at Benoit's celebration at WMXX. Yeah, it would be copying a pitch perfect WrestleMania ending (perfect until Benoit's name started to leave a bad taste in our mouths), but I think it's the best way to for Punk to return without overdoing it and truly giving former indy guys an upper hand on corporate guys Batista and Orton.
Plus, it lays things down for the future in the process. Maybe somewhere down the line, Punk starts getting jealous of Bryan (some reports already claim Punk's jealousy is the reason he left). Maybe somehow he snags the title away from Bryan. And then maybe, just maybe, we see Bryan vs Punk for the WWE Title at WrestleMania 31. Or not. A guy can dream, can't he?
 
Personally, at this point even if Punk and WWE reached a deal, I'm not sure I'd want Punk in a match at WrestleMania XXX. Keep people in the dark for a little bit longer; since putting them in the dark to begin with helped add even more interest into the product. Though, there's still a chance he could at least show up in some way.

This is MY fantasy return scenario for Punk- Daniel Bryan beats HHH at WMXXX, goes into the main event, wins the title, and then as he's celebrating in the ring...he turns around to see CM Punk smiling from ear to ear at his indy buddy. They hug it out in the ring and Punk raises Bryan's hand in victory. Like when Eddie showed up at Benoit's celebration at WMXX. Yeah, it would be copying a pitch perfect WrestleMania ending (perfect until Benoit's name started to leave a bad taste in our mouths), but I think it's the best way to for Punk to return without overdoing it and truly giving former indy guys an upper hand on corporate guys Batista and Orton.
Plus, it lays things down for the future in the process. Maybe somewhere down the line, Punk starts getting jealous of Bryan (some reports already claim Punk's jealousy is the reason he left). Maybe somehow he snags the title away from Bryan. And then maybe, just maybe, we see Bryan vs Punk for the WWE Title at WrestleMania 31. Or not. A guy can dream, can't he?

With all due respect, this is prolly the worst thing that could happen.

IF Bryan wins the title at Wrestlemania, you don't need CM Punk, you CAN'T ave CM Punk there, its Bryan's spotlight, don't touch it, leave it like that. Don't overshadow his win by Punk's return, you'll bury Bryan by doing that, if he wins, it's his moment, Punk has no business there.

If you want your scenario, make it happen the next night on Raw on Bryan's appreciation night or whatever.
 

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