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Given the success of Overrated or Underrated in the wrestling section and the demonstrations of historical interest by the Cigar Lounge, I think applying it to famous military commanders could arouse some good debate.
As an ancient historian, I feel obliged to open such a debate with a figure from the ancient world. To that end, I have chosen to look at the military career of perhaps the most famous Roman of all…
Gaius Julius Caesar
Famed for his conquest of Gaul, his brief foray to southern England and immortalised by his own writings, Julius Caesar was the man most responsible for bringing an end to the Roman Republic. The bloody civil wars he initiated by crossing the tiny Rubicon river into Italy with his army eventually left Rome under the military leadership of a single individual – first Caesar himself as dictator and slightly over a decade later his adopted son, Gaius Octavius, as imperator – the precursor of ‘emperor.’
There can be no disputing Caesar’s impact on the Roman Empire and history in general. Renderings of his cognomen would be used as imperial titles across Europe. The Romans themselves had Caesares, the Slavs had Czars, the Russians had Tsars and the Germans had Kaisers. Indeed until 1946 with the deposition of Simeon II of Bulgaria, there had been a Caesar ruling as a head of state for nearly 2,000 years after his assassination.
An even more long-lasting legacy from Caesar was his introduction of the 365 day year with the contingency for a leap year in 45BCE. While the Julian calendar was gradually superseded by the Gregorian calendar after 1582, the lay-out remained largely the same. The month of July is named after Caesar.
However, in my opinion, despite this lasting impact, Caesar does not deserve the accolades he gets as one of history’s greatest military commanders. This may seem surprising declaration given that Caesar conquered an area equivalent to modern day France, Holland, Belgium, Luxembourg, Switzerland and the Rhineland of Germany as well as winning victories against Egyptians, Pontics (Greeks from Black Sea) and several engagements with other Romans. It is said that in Gaul, Caesar faced three million opponents or whom he killed one third, enslaved another third and conquered the rest. Clearly numbers were against him.
However, these numbers disguise the fractious nature of Gallic society, which was made up of a scattered and mostly leaderless array of uncivilised and technologically inferior tribesmen. Caesar was able to play these tribes off against one another, limiting his number of enemies at any one time while bolstering his own forces. This was a long-established Roman tactic and would continue to be for the next fifteen centuries so Caesar cannot take credit for any innovation.
Caesar also had at his disposal the most potent weapon available to any contemporary commander in Europe – the Roman legion. While it may have lost some of its flexibility following the reforms of Marius half a century earlier, the heavy infantry that comprised the legion was at its most formidable when facing the infantry based armies of the Gauls. Once the Romans committed a sizeable force to Gaul, the legions would rebuff the headlong charge of the tribesmen and before gradually chewing them up. It did not take a great commander to successfully wield such an obviously superior force.
A decade of warfare, no matter how weak the opposition, moulded Caesar’s men into a battle-hardened unit while the forces that he would face in the Roman civil war were made up of recalled veterans and inexperienced raw recruits. The difference was to be vital. Had Pompeius Magnus commanded a stronger army that he could be more confident in, the civil war could have been ended at Dyrrhachium when Caesar tried to cross to Greece. Only the discipline of his legions saved him.
Perhaps only at Pharsalus when he faced Pompeius’ much larger force, did Caesar have to show any innovation. Facing a force with twice the amount of infantry and a large advantage in cavalry, Caesar intermingled some of his infantry with his cavalry so to disrupt Pompeius’ cavalry charge but again even this innovation was reliant upon the flexibility and discipline of the legion.
I do not take away from Caesar’s achievements. He clearly was a man with a sound grasp of how to lead an army, maintain discipline and inspire loyalty. However, the Romans positively demanded such attributes in their commanders. For Caesar to be applauded for demonstrating a high standard of the basics of Roman warfare is to forget those Romans who not only applied the basics but who were truly innovative in how they led the army.
The originality of generalship Caesar had to show does not approach that of Quintus Fabius Maximus in Italy, Scipio Africanus in Spain or Aemilius Paulus in Greece, all of whom fought against far superior opponent than Caesar ever had to. He certainly does not even come close to that of Hannibal at Cannae or Napoleon at Austerlitz (in my opinion, the two greatest displays of battlefield generalship). His most famous victories at Alesia and Pharsalus were due to the strength of his battle-hardened legions and the weakness of his opponents, not from any out-of-the-ordinary leadership on his part.
Given command of an army of equal quality to Caesar’s, I believe that Vercingetorix could have won at Alesia and Pompeius Magnus would have won at Pharsalus. Of course, the fact that Caesar did have such a well-drilled core of Roman legionaries is a testament to his ability to instil discipline. However, such discipline had been the cornerstone of the Roman army’s successes all around the Mediterranean for over two centuries before Caesar was born so he should not receive any real credit for that. If anything, Pompeius Magnus and his Senatorial allies should be ridiculed for allowing the quality of their forces to diminish. The inadequacy of his opponents was not Caesar’s fault but I think that it should takeaway from his reputation. A general is only as good as those he defeats.
So why is Caesar so well remembered?
Due to the strength of the legion, the rigidity of the Republic and the dictatorship of the Empire, it was very difficult for a Roman commander to make a name for himself. Those who we remember are those who managed to break the mould by breaking the rules. Scipio Africanus was promoted beyond his age and experience. Marius was illegally elected consul on six occasions and Pompeius Magnus simply usurper his authority by raising an army on his own initiative. Caesar is no different. Had he not taken offence at being told to disband his army and stand trial for his political crimes and declared war on the Senate, he would still be remembered as the man who conquered Gaul but in my opinion would not have achieved the inflated reputation that he has.
In my opinion, the reasons for his fame lie not in Caesar’s military capacities but in the mystique of his assassination and his often misquoted final words. (His exact words are not known but it certainly was not “Et tu, Brute?” which is a line from Shakespeare; it is suggested that he may have uttered the Greek phrase “καὶ σύ, τέκνον,” meaning “You too, child?” although two of the main sources, Plutarch and Suetonius, claim that he said nothing).
At the time of his assassination, he was planning a campaign of Alexandrian proportions against the Parthian Empire of Iran before moving north into the Caucasus before advancing along the north coast of the Black Sea to crush the Dacians along the Danube and attacking the Germans from the east. Such a campaign will have stretched the resources of the Roman Empire and may well have given Caesar the chance to display some more dynamic generalship.
The other main reason for his lofty place in history is that he had two of the best publicists in history. One was his adopted son, Gaius Octavius, remembered to history as the first Roman Emperor Augustus, who made sure that Caesar was honoured with a place in the Roman pantheon of gods. Of course, such a lofty position enhanced Augustus’ own position as the ‘son of a god’ so it is possible that love and admiration for his adopted father did not play the main role in his deification.
The other great publicist of Julius Caesar was Julius Caesar himself. His war diaries from the Gallic and civil war campaign reveal him to be a learned man of great editorial skill. If anyone was going to play up Caesar’s achievements it would be himself.
Caesar may have been on a par with if not slightly ahead of Pompeius Magnus but was inferior to his uncle Gaius Marius and the emperor Trajan and not even in the same league as Scipio Africanus.
Perhaps provided with a greater challenge than scattered Gallic tribesmen, regional client states or inexperienced and ill-led Romans, we might have seen a more tactically innovative and dynamic side to Caesar’s military leadership. The horse archers of the Parthian Empire and the Ukrainian steppes would have provided a stern test. However, because he did not survive long enough to face that test, we can only speculate on how well he would have gotten on from what tests he did face and for me overcoming the foes he did was not overly impressive.
Julius Caesar – good, but not great, and therefore, overrated.
So what you think? Do you agree with my thoughts on Caesar or is these some over military commander whose achievements you feel are overinflated or under-appreciated?
EDIT - I cannot take full credit for this thread. It was Shadowmancer who suggested that I do something of this nature and specifically mentioned Julius Caesar as a prime candidate
As an ancient historian, I feel obliged to open such a debate with a figure from the ancient world. To that end, I have chosen to look at the military career of perhaps the most famous Roman of all…
Gaius Julius Caesar
Famed for his conquest of Gaul, his brief foray to southern England and immortalised by his own writings, Julius Caesar was the man most responsible for bringing an end to the Roman Republic. The bloody civil wars he initiated by crossing the tiny Rubicon river into Italy with his army eventually left Rome under the military leadership of a single individual – first Caesar himself as dictator and slightly over a decade later his adopted son, Gaius Octavius, as imperator – the precursor of ‘emperor.’
There can be no disputing Caesar’s impact on the Roman Empire and history in general. Renderings of his cognomen would be used as imperial titles across Europe. The Romans themselves had Caesares, the Slavs had Czars, the Russians had Tsars and the Germans had Kaisers. Indeed until 1946 with the deposition of Simeon II of Bulgaria, there had been a Caesar ruling as a head of state for nearly 2,000 years after his assassination.
An even more long-lasting legacy from Caesar was his introduction of the 365 day year with the contingency for a leap year in 45BCE. While the Julian calendar was gradually superseded by the Gregorian calendar after 1582, the lay-out remained largely the same. The month of July is named after Caesar.
However, in my opinion, despite this lasting impact, Caesar does not deserve the accolades he gets as one of history’s greatest military commanders. This may seem surprising declaration given that Caesar conquered an area equivalent to modern day France, Holland, Belgium, Luxembourg, Switzerland and the Rhineland of Germany as well as winning victories against Egyptians, Pontics (Greeks from Black Sea) and several engagements with other Romans. It is said that in Gaul, Caesar faced three million opponents or whom he killed one third, enslaved another third and conquered the rest. Clearly numbers were against him.
However, these numbers disguise the fractious nature of Gallic society, which was made up of a scattered and mostly leaderless array of uncivilised and technologically inferior tribesmen. Caesar was able to play these tribes off against one another, limiting his number of enemies at any one time while bolstering his own forces. This was a long-established Roman tactic and would continue to be for the next fifteen centuries so Caesar cannot take credit for any innovation.
Caesar also had at his disposal the most potent weapon available to any contemporary commander in Europe – the Roman legion. While it may have lost some of its flexibility following the reforms of Marius half a century earlier, the heavy infantry that comprised the legion was at its most formidable when facing the infantry based armies of the Gauls. Once the Romans committed a sizeable force to Gaul, the legions would rebuff the headlong charge of the tribesmen and before gradually chewing them up. It did not take a great commander to successfully wield such an obviously superior force.
A decade of warfare, no matter how weak the opposition, moulded Caesar’s men into a battle-hardened unit while the forces that he would face in the Roman civil war were made up of recalled veterans and inexperienced raw recruits. The difference was to be vital. Had Pompeius Magnus commanded a stronger army that he could be more confident in, the civil war could have been ended at Dyrrhachium when Caesar tried to cross to Greece. Only the discipline of his legions saved him.
Perhaps only at Pharsalus when he faced Pompeius’ much larger force, did Caesar have to show any innovation. Facing a force with twice the amount of infantry and a large advantage in cavalry, Caesar intermingled some of his infantry with his cavalry so to disrupt Pompeius’ cavalry charge but again even this innovation was reliant upon the flexibility and discipline of the legion.
I do not take away from Caesar’s achievements. He clearly was a man with a sound grasp of how to lead an army, maintain discipline and inspire loyalty. However, the Romans positively demanded such attributes in their commanders. For Caesar to be applauded for demonstrating a high standard of the basics of Roman warfare is to forget those Romans who not only applied the basics but who were truly innovative in how they led the army.
The originality of generalship Caesar had to show does not approach that of Quintus Fabius Maximus in Italy, Scipio Africanus in Spain or Aemilius Paulus in Greece, all of whom fought against far superior opponent than Caesar ever had to. He certainly does not even come close to that of Hannibal at Cannae or Napoleon at Austerlitz (in my opinion, the two greatest displays of battlefield generalship). His most famous victories at Alesia and Pharsalus were due to the strength of his battle-hardened legions and the weakness of his opponents, not from any out-of-the-ordinary leadership on his part.
Given command of an army of equal quality to Caesar’s, I believe that Vercingetorix could have won at Alesia and Pompeius Magnus would have won at Pharsalus. Of course, the fact that Caesar did have such a well-drilled core of Roman legionaries is a testament to his ability to instil discipline. However, such discipline had been the cornerstone of the Roman army’s successes all around the Mediterranean for over two centuries before Caesar was born so he should not receive any real credit for that. If anything, Pompeius Magnus and his Senatorial allies should be ridiculed for allowing the quality of their forces to diminish. The inadequacy of his opponents was not Caesar’s fault but I think that it should takeaway from his reputation. A general is only as good as those he defeats.
So why is Caesar so well remembered?
Due to the strength of the legion, the rigidity of the Republic and the dictatorship of the Empire, it was very difficult for a Roman commander to make a name for himself. Those who we remember are those who managed to break the mould by breaking the rules. Scipio Africanus was promoted beyond his age and experience. Marius was illegally elected consul on six occasions and Pompeius Magnus simply usurper his authority by raising an army on his own initiative. Caesar is no different. Had he not taken offence at being told to disband his army and stand trial for his political crimes and declared war on the Senate, he would still be remembered as the man who conquered Gaul but in my opinion would not have achieved the inflated reputation that he has.
In my opinion, the reasons for his fame lie not in Caesar’s military capacities but in the mystique of his assassination and his often misquoted final words. (His exact words are not known but it certainly was not “Et tu, Brute?” which is a line from Shakespeare; it is suggested that he may have uttered the Greek phrase “καὶ σύ, τέκνον,” meaning “You too, child?” although two of the main sources, Plutarch and Suetonius, claim that he said nothing).
At the time of his assassination, he was planning a campaign of Alexandrian proportions against the Parthian Empire of Iran before moving north into the Caucasus before advancing along the north coast of the Black Sea to crush the Dacians along the Danube and attacking the Germans from the east. Such a campaign will have stretched the resources of the Roman Empire and may well have given Caesar the chance to display some more dynamic generalship.
The other main reason for his lofty place in history is that he had two of the best publicists in history. One was his adopted son, Gaius Octavius, remembered to history as the first Roman Emperor Augustus, who made sure that Caesar was honoured with a place in the Roman pantheon of gods. Of course, such a lofty position enhanced Augustus’ own position as the ‘son of a god’ so it is possible that love and admiration for his adopted father did not play the main role in his deification.
The other great publicist of Julius Caesar was Julius Caesar himself. His war diaries from the Gallic and civil war campaign reveal him to be a learned man of great editorial skill. If anyone was going to play up Caesar’s achievements it would be himself.
Caesar may have been on a par with if not slightly ahead of Pompeius Magnus but was inferior to his uncle Gaius Marius and the emperor Trajan and not even in the same league as Scipio Africanus.
Perhaps provided with a greater challenge than scattered Gallic tribesmen, regional client states or inexperienced and ill-led Romans, we might have seen a more tactically innovative and dynamic side to Caesar’s military leadership. The horse archers of the Parthian Empire and the Ukrainian steppes would have provided a stern test. However, because he did not survive long enough to face that test, we can only speculate on how well he would have gotten on from what tests he did face and for me overcoming the foes he did was not overly impressive.
Julius Caesar – good, but not great, and therefore, overrated.
So what you think? Do you agree with my thoughts on Caesar or is these some over military commander whose achievements you feel are overinflated or under-appreciated?
EDIT - I cannot take full credit for this thread. It was Shadowmancer who suggested that I do something of this nature and specifically mentioned Julius Caesar as a prime candidate