That's a joke, right man? On Cube's last album alone he had Nas, Scarface, The Game, Young Jeezy, seriously Ty nobody wants to do music with Cube? Who the fuck is doing music with Krayzie Bone? A bunch of people no one has ever heard of? Not trying to sound hostile man, but Nas & Scarface don't count anymore or something? Both of those guys are miles above Bone Thugs and both of them were just on Cube's last album.
Ain't it great to have record labels go pay artists to work with you? I'm not saying that's what happened but there's a difference. Either Cube or his label asked Nas and Scarface to be on his album, you know needing legends to boost up your album. Krayzie meanwhile is putting down all the hot artists and working with the lesser known artists to help them come up. Big difference between asking for artists to be on your album, and getting asked to be on other artist's albums. Oh and even Ice Cube has asked Krayzie to be on a song, a single no less:
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No shit Cube isn't the same rapper he was in 1991, people change and evolve. Do you know how hard it is to live up to an album like AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted? It's the same problem Nas has had; nothing can ever match up to Illmatic, no matter how good his new albums are. Doesn't take away from the artist.
Cube's early work man, Bone Thugs just can't compare. I'm sorry dude, I know you love Bone Thugs, but to me they're not even on the same level as the genius Cube showed during the late 80s and early 90s. Before Tupac and Biggie showed up he was known as the hottest rapper in the game man. Whereas if you asked most people about Bone Thugs, they probably couldn't name you a single member.
And I think Bone's better than Cube, and I bet you could ask most people to name an old Ice Cube album, they couldn't name one. Moot point and irrelevant, why? Because Cube and Bone haven't been mainstream in quite some time. Oh and as far as the hottest rappers in the game, they were asking Bone to be on their albums to reference to the response above, and that includes Ice Cube.
That's a TERRIBLE argument Ty. Record sales define quality now? I guess by that logic that means Soulja Boy is superior to Rakim, right? Record sales mean jack shit when it comes to quality man, and you know that.
I know this, it was just for fucking comparison's sake, it wasn't to prove something, I just wanted to point album sales so we can throw that out there right off the bat. They were both in the game at their peak when file sharing wasn't prevalent and there wasn't the bullshit hip hop that teeny boppers are listening to.
AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted > Everything Bone Thugs has ever done, and I stand by that Ty. I don't see why we're arguing this though; you'll claim E1999 is better, I'll claim AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted is better, and this conversation will go nowhere. I'm just telling you my opinion man, and most critics would agree with me.
Man the critics don't mean a fucking thing as far as I'm concerned, it's what the fans think, the average person thinks of each respective person. And since we got only two arguing this point right now, it's a moot point again. I claim E1999 Eternal is the better album, you think AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted is better. Both classics, so let's agree both are an essential part of a true hip hop collection.
A) It's RAP MUSIC we're talking about here Ty. You really think every gangsta rapper that rhymes about selling drugs and shooting people actually does those things? Come on man, by that logic Dre is a HUGE fuckin sellout because he was never a gansta in his entire life yet rapped about it. Seriously man, 99% of "gangsta rappers" are complete bullshitters. I highly doubt Krayzie is going around doin' the shit he claims either. It's irrelevant man, because Cube's rhyming skills and lyric skills are superior to Bone's in my opinion.
B) So because Bone Thugs have dedicated fans that makes them better than Cube? Right, so by that logic than I guess ICP are the greatest rap group of all time, right? No one is more dedicated than ICP fans; doesn't change the fact that the group they worship is total shit.
Dre is a sellout, I'll say it all day everyday. Look at his fucking first solo album before he joined NWA, I don't gotta say anything else. I'll back off the selling out bit, but I still think he did, but I'll lay off that. Krayzie and Cube both lived the hard life, ain't no doubt about that, when they talk about it, they're talking about their past and where they came from, not that they're doing that now. I thought that would be common knowledge when it comes to talking about that shit. I think Bone's rhyming skills, the fast flow is better than Cube's West Coast style, both were using the G Funk style to start out with. Oh and mostly I'm arguing just for the shits and giggles of it, and what kind of fan would I be without defending my favorite artists?
As far as B is concerned, I was waiting for that to come up, and that was a poorly thought out argument on my end. So my bad on that.
I'm really not trying to hate on Bone Thugs, I like them quite a bit and E1999 is a classic album. But they're just not on Cube's level, and never have been in my opinion. If you disagree, that's cool man, but you're not going to change my mind or anything.
At the end of the day, let's just say it like it is X, we both love hip hop, we have our differences on who's better, but you know what, it don't matter as long as we got the music that we love to listen to. And just like you, I'm not trying to shit on Cube either, and for the last time, Cube is one of my favorites, not my top ten, but one of my favorites. I don't like to disrespect artists I like, so this hurts having to talk against Cube.
So with all that said, X, get the blunt, I'll get the 40's, let's cruise down the street in a 64 if we can jack one.
