Old talent or current talent?

NathanFantastic

NineInchNathan
Before i carry on, forget about the biggest draws and stuff like that. I just want to know your personal opinion on this.

First, old talent (1999 - Various)

Lets think about who we used to watch back then, here are a few names in particular:
The Rock Stone Cold HHH HBK
Chris Jericho The Undertaker Kane
Mick Foley Kurt Angle Chris Benoit
Val Venis Test Prince Albert
D'lo Brown Mark Henry The APA
Hardy Boyz The Dudley Boys
Edge & Christian (Many more, feel free to add)

Now the current talent:
John Cena The Miz Randy Orton
Dolph Zigler Jack Swagger
Evan Bourne Sin Cara Alex Riley
Wade Barrett Sheamus (Again, feel free to add)

My question is
1. Who did you enjoy more?
2. Who is most likely going to be replaced by who?
3. If you mixed it all up, who would you want to see feud most?

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My question is
1. Who did you enjoy more?
2. Who is most likely going to be replaced by who?
3. If you mixed it all up, who would you want to see feud most?

I am not asking you to compare. I am just asking a simple question. Who do YOU enjoy more? Your personal opinion. And yes Christian, Kane, Mark Henry and others are still performing, but are they new talent? No.
 
old school most certainly, it seemed more real and less cartoony. and people could identify with the characters more. the new school couldnt hold a candle to what we used to have
 
I'd like to put some of the current roster in with the old school to see how they cope.
I think that people such as punk would flourish much more against top calibre competion.
 
For me I think it's more about the actual material that is/was given than any of the actual names. Don't get me wrong some of the "old school" guys are in my opinon some of the greatest of all time. Some of the "new school" guys I think are made to look worse than they are by the changes in the buisness/product. So, until the material is on par I think to compare would be unfair.
 
It's not really fair to compare the eras. It's clearly the Attitude Era and it isn't even close. You have arguably the best technical wrestlers in the world in Angle and Benoit. You had the Rock, Austin, Mick Foley and Triple H. The roster was a lot deeper and the writing of that era was far superior to what we have today. SO it really is unfair to compare the two.
 
you cant really compare, we had more guys back in the day (the attitude era) we are short on stars (mainly cause they all left), but the wwe arent making any new big stars as of late, so yeah, i hope we get more top stars soon.

just to add, we still have christain, kane, big show, and mark henry though they are much older now but still they are in the main event kinda, they get more spotlight then lots of other guys.
 
The old talent was amazing. Such an influx of talent was the reason the attitude era was so crazy successful. It wasn't the blood, swearing, or stories that made it good, it was the talent that made it great. The talent was so good and the fans were so passionate at the time, it made for an incredible product. One we likely won't see again.

That being said, I do feel that the talent today is very very strong and promising. I would love to see how they would've done in that time period without the child audience and the PG limitations. Would the characters be a little more edgy? For sure. The edginess brings out a different side of superstars that seems alot less forced and more realistic. If they get the right gimmick, they can really run with it. I think we're on the cusp of another young talent boom and things will start falling into place. I'm curious to see how we'll think of today's talent in 10 years.
 
Its unfair to compare guys that got over in a different era than the current one!
As much as you read that PG is good and that people are only Attitude Era marks and stuff from the regular posters here, the truth is that in the old days it was easier to make someone got over.

If Stone Cold debuted tonight, he wouldn't be nothing more than a mid card, because his character always was about rebellion and a badass guy, and in the PG thing he actually can't do that.

Also the Creative Team was so much better, innovative and imaginative than now, in the old days we didn't saw an Intercontinental Championship Random Match, we saw a good mid-card feud with both guys being a complete threat to each other.

It is unfair to compare it, but in terms of wrestling and overall skills, guys like Y2J, HHH, The Rock, SCSA, Kurt Angle and Edge had the total package to be world champions, and they were...
Now we have Alberto Del Rio that has a bland gimmick (Creative's fault), Sheamus that actually is very good and could totally worked in the old days, Wade Barrett that has all the tools to be world champion one day, The Miz that is a mix of a lot of legendary heels like Ric Flair and Y2J, Drew McIntyre that is being mis-used...

In terms of wrestling, the Attitude Era was the one that had more impact with the TV14 things they could really do what the fuck they wanted.
In terms of promos: It is a tie, because The Rock and SSA can be matched by CM Punk and John Cena.

It is unfair to compare them..
 
I recently re-watched the PPVs from '99 and 2000 and they were awesome!

The Undertaker literally hanging Big Boss Man from hell in a cell! Im surprised they got away with that in that era tbh!
CM Punk is definetly someone who could have been great back then, I wouldnt be confident that anyone else from todays roster would have been succesful though. Maybe a Del Rio and Eddie fued would have been something special

I definetly would prefer the old talent, It's not even a close contest.
Just for your list I think you need mention the likes of New age Outlaws, the Radicalz, The Godfather and Al Snow.
 
Before i carry on, forget about the biggest draws and stuff like that. I just want to know your personal opinion on this.

First, old talent (1999 - Various)

Lets think about who we used to watch back then, here are a few names in particular:
The Rock Stone Cold HHH HBK
Chris Jericho The Undertaker Kane
Mick Foley Kurt Angle Chris Benoit
Val Venis Test Prince Albert
D'lo Brown Mark Henry The APA
Hardy Boyz The Dudley Boys
Edge & Christian (Many more, feel free to add)

Now the current talent:
John Cena The Miz Randy Orton
Dolph Zigler Jack Swagger
Evan Bourne Sin Cara Alex Riley
Wade Barrett Sheamus (Again, feel free to add)

My question is
1. Who did you enjoy more?
2. Who is most likely going to be replaced by who?
3. If you mixed it all up, who would you want to see feud most?

A lot of things were different in the late 90s than they are now. For starters, a lot of the "old guys" you mentioned before were guys that had been around a while, maybe even before they were in the WWE. They had time to perfect their craft, more so than a lot of guys in the WWE today who just start in FCW and get called up to the main roster. They had territories, which I believe is a huge reason why people don't get over as well today. Another thing to mention would have to be that this was a time when the Monday Night Wars were winding down and most of the stars you mentioned were from that era. A big focal point with that is the fact that at the time the WWE used every scrap of talent they had and managed to turn some pretty mediocre guys into stars because of the story lines they were given.

Rant aside..

The list of "old guys" you provided is definitely more impressive than the list of new guys if you ask me. Personally, I'd like to see a couple of (seemingly) things happen, and that is to add at least one more huge face and one more huge heel to the roster. I think they tried and failed to do that with Sheamus. It looks they're trying more successfully to do that with Alex Riley [as a face]. Hopefully they can pull off The Miz becoming the next great, dastardly heel, especially if C.M. Punk doesn't stay.

The most important thing to me is to build more stars. I really feel like the WWE is lacking in that department right now. They were pretty fortunate to be able to not only discover The Rock, Stone Cold and Triple H in the late 90s but they also were able to utilize the lower card talent as well. They really need to continue enhancing their mid-card talent so they can perform with Cena and Orton and the few others.
 
1. Who did you enjoy more?
Current Talent. The Attitude Era is over, and you should all get over the fact that it is. There are by far more quality superstars in the WWE now than there have ever been in the past.

2. Who is most likely going to be replaced by who?
I don't fall into the belief that "X wrestler is the next so and so" because that belief is complete and total bullshit. The WWE may try and recycle old story lines and gimmicks for superstars but each new superstar develops into their own character over time and there real qualities show through.

3. If you mixed it all up, who would you want to see feud most?
I do not want to see any former WWE superstars, legends, or has beens feud with todays stars. I've never been a fan of the Rock, Austin bores me, Foley needs to stay away from professional wrestling in every capacity for as long as possible, the Hardy's were/are/and always have been garbage, The Undertaker needs to hang up his boots and retire, Kurt Angle says he'd never come back to the WWE, I was never high on Chris Benoit and after killing his family and then himself what little respect I had for him went down the drain,Val Venis is the same as the Hardy's to me, D'lo Brown was just in the WWE for a few months a year or two back and then was released, Mark Henry needs to retire, The APA a tag team? in the WWE? not possible, the Dudley Boys, one word, YUCK.
I never want to see any of these people active in the WWE ever again
 

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