undrgrndgam3r
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lol it would be cool to see gangrel start wrestling again.
[Official] Mr. McMahon Memorial Thread
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lol it would be cool to see gangrel start wrestling again.
There's just one thing I don't really understand, and that is, if the angle was planned for several weeks to culminate with the limo explosion at the end of Raw on draft night, why was Vince acting weird and trance-like during all episodes of Raw since he lost his title to Lashley?
I realize that his zombie routine and his state of mind over the last few episodes of Raw made him act in a manner to upset a lot of people and therefore make a lot of enemies, to further the whole Whodunit storyline. I get this.
But Vince has been making enemies on Raw for years simply by acting like a son of a bitch. Look at all of the tributes from people on this week's show; most of these "tributes" were from people who Vince made enemies of years ago. Austin, Hart, Trump, etc., all had scathing comments for Vince, without him acting stupidly for the last few weeks.
What was that all about?
By the way, I agree with one guy who says he sees a returning McMahon being associated with a returning Undertaker in a few months time, possibly at Survivor Series. I don't necessarily believe he overheard a conversation, but I can see a "resurrecting" McMahon being affiliated with a returning heel Undertaker, with some sort of Corporate Ministry again. Likely without Gangrel, though, I think he's done.
I also think the Coach will ultimately be the guilty party, and he'll be out of the WWE after this. I don't believe a heel wrestler will end up being responsible, that would make no sense whatsoever, as whoever is deemed to have been "responsible" will have to be "arrested" and "jailed," even in the surreal world of the WWE.
I realize that his zombie routine and his state of mind over the last few episodes of Raw made him act in a manner to upset a lot of people and therefore make a lot of enemies, to further the whole Whodunit storyline. I get this.
But Vince has been making enemies on Raw for years simply by acting like a son of a bitch. Look at all of the tributes from people on this week's show; most of these "tributes" were from people who Vince made enemies of years ago. Austin, Hart, Trump, etc., all had scathing comments for Vince, without him acting stupidly for the last few weeks.
What was that all about?
By the way, I agree with one guy who says he sees a returning McMahon being associated with a returning Undertaker in a few months time, possibly at Survivor Series. I don't necessarily believe he overheard a conversation, but I can see a "resurrecting" McMahon being affiliated with a returning heel Undertaker, with some sort of Corporate Ministry again. Likely without Gangrel, though, I think he's done.
I also think the Coach will ultimately be the guilty party, and he'll be out of the WWE after this. I don't believe a heel wrestler will end up being responsible, that would make no sense whatsoever, as whoever is deemed to have been "responsible" will have to be "arrested" and "jailed," even in the surreal world of the WWE.
That doesn't make much sense though. I mean, a face wouldn't ever murder someone, thats strictly a heel thing. Though I see where you're coming from as its hard to imagine a heel vs. heel feud over this, but it would make no sense for a face to be behind this.
That said, I think they're going to go through with the whole Whodunit angle up until Vince returns and says "Ha ha! Fooled you all! It was a trick!" thus getting rid of any need for a whodunit angle.
On a side note...I would shit myself with happiness if the Corporate Ministry was reformed...my god that would be so awesome...that was always my favorite version of 'Taker, the Satanic heel who ran the Ministry. The WWE really needs a stable, a big one on a main show like RAW or Smackdown, like the Corporation was. It's always a great idea IMO. Gotta be a heel faction though, huge face factions never work.
undrgrndgam3r
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Investigation expands, Chairman's headquarters searched
By Bryan Robinson
Written: June 13, 2007
STAMFORD, Conn. – Federal authorities investigating the presumed death of Mr. McMahon visited the Chairman’s office at WWE corporate headquarters earlier this morning, and were seen loading what appeared to be hundreds of boxes into vans, WWE.com has learned.
Sources close to the investigation say officials arrived at Titan Tower at 6 a.m. The federal officers, sources said, were gathering evidence in search of any clues in the apparent fiery demise of Mr. McMahon, who may have perished Monday night at the end of Raw when the limousine he had just entered exploded. So far, authorities have not recovered Mr. McMahon’s body or any of his remains.
Insisting that they could not comment on an ongoing investigation, FBI officials would not reveal what the agents were looking for or what they removed from the Chairman’s office. But according to one anonymous source, investigators rummaged through hundreds of McMahon’s files and dusted his office for fingerprints. They also, the source said, were seen taking the WWE visionary’s computers off the premises.
The agents were said to have spent three hours combing through files and removing materials. When they were finished, the Chairman’s office – which normally was filled with cabinets and state-of-art computers – had been stripped clean. Its carpeting had been removed, and normally organized bookshelves were left in disarray.
Federal authorities, sources said, are also looking at the Chairman’s e-mail and all of his writings for any clues. They are especially looking at anything he may have written in the last two weeks, when his behavior became increasingly erratic.
Will anything taken from Mr. McMahon’s office – any e-mail on his computers – provide any clues? Stay with WWE.com for further updates on the investigation as details become available.
Log on later today as our reporters hope to talk to the lead detective in the federal investigation. In addition, tune in to SmackDown on Friday at 8/7 CT to find out the latest developments in the probe and watch the tribute to Mr. McMahon.
Also they started selling wallpaper for cell phones for $1.99
By Bryan Robinson
Written: June 13, 2007
STAMFORD, Conn. – Federal authorities investigating the presumed death of Mr. McMahon visited the Chairman’s office at WWE corporate headquarters earlier this morning, and were seen loading what appeared to be hundreds of boxes into vans, WWE.com has learned.
Sources close to the investigation say officials arrived at Titan Tower at 6 a.m. The federal officers, sources said, were gathering evidence in search of any clues in the apparent fiery demise of Mr. McMahon, who may have perished Monday night at the end of Raw when the limousine he had just entered exploded. So far, authorities have not recovered Mr. McMahon’s body or any of his remains.
Insisting that they could not comment on an ongoing investigation, FBI officials would not reveal what the agents were looking for or what they removed from the Chairman’s office. But according to one anonymous source, investigators rummaged through hundreds of McMahon’s files and dusted his office for fingerprints. They also, the source said, were seen taking the WWE visionary’s computers off the premises.
The agents were said to have spent three hours combing through files and removing materials. When they were finished, the Chairman’s office – which normally was filled with cabinets and state-of-art computers – had been stripped clean. Its carpeting had been removed, and normally organized bookshelves were left in disarray.
Federal authorities, sources said, are also looking at the Chairman’s e-mail and all of his writings for any clues. They are especially looking at anything he may have written in the last two weeks, when his behavior became increasingly erratic.
Will anything taken from Mr. McMahon’s office – any e-mail on his computers – provide any clues? Stay with WWE.com for further updates on the investigation as details become available.
Log on later today as our reporters hope to talk to the lead detective in the federal investigation. In addition, tune in to SmackDown on Friday at 8/7 CT to find out the latest developments in the probe and watch the tribute to Mr. McMahon.
Also they started selling wallpaper for cell phones for $1.99
Mexican Geek
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That would be awesome, but who, besides Taker of course, would take part of the Ministry? By the time Taker's back, Kane knees will blow, probably he will be off before then, so i discard Kane...
and honestly, i cant find another "dark" character who fits into this.. Maybe Kevin Thorn...?
And the other problem would be the "Corporate" faction members (this one is easier though...)maybe Shane-o-Mac, i'll put Mark Henry....and a returning Paul Burchill? i better make a thread for this....
again, i'll stick to the "Burned" Vince idea...but "Ghost" Vince and "Reformed" Vince are rising on the Rankings! LOL!!!
undrgrndgam3r
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If they did that I don't see Paul Bearer returning, if you remember recently they showed him on wwe.com in the where are they now segment and hes all skinny and back to being a corner.
Maybe they could get midean with his lil eyeball to come back lol.
Maybe they could get midean with his lil eyeball to come back lol.
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blackwolf
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There's a post on wrestlezone.com that says that it's a stunt because before the explosion there's no water near the limo and that after there's water WRONG , the guy who said that is wrong THERE's water near the limo before Vince entered on it we can even see the limo's reflection on the floor , so you have to find a stronger argument the next time !!
Sharpshooter
Dark Match Jobber
Funny if they have an angle when McMahon comes back with amnesia, and they have Shane or Steph alter his memories with him as a wrestler LOL...
You do realize that this is all fake right? That Vince McMahon isn't really dead? I sure as hell hope so. Vince McMahon is alive and well.
Anyways, did anyone catch ECW last night? I fell asleep and wanted to know if any new developments on the Vince thing arose?
ExtremeIronChef
Hey Yo!
No new developments. A moment of silence which all the fans booed of course. We won't hear anything major until RAW, if even then.
The Wwe Are Really Running Out Of Ideas. I Hate This Angle. Everyone Knows Its Fake, I Watched Ecw Last Night And Almost Fell Asleep From Boredom. That Was The Worst Ecw I Have Even Seen. Period. They Mention Nothing About The Vacant Title, The Main Even Got Screwed Up, And The Crowd Was Not Into The Show At All.. And They Showed The Same 5 Minute Clip Twice.. Wtf. They Need To Stop With B/s Angles Like This
Do They Want Tna To Come Up That Fast?
Do They Want Tna To Come Up That Fast?
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Don Killuminati
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I think this is a really dumb angle. When I saw the "Mr. McMahon Presumed Dead" on wwe.com I knew this was gonna be a dumb angle. Not a single person thinks it's real. And they really aren't even trying hard to make it seem real. If it was real they'd have wrestler interviews about him and stuff. It's just a boring angle but I guess it's getting attention and if that's all they want from this angle then good for them.
knights11281984
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that is exactly what they want. look at how many pages long this thread is. and there is another thread about who killed vince. we all know its a storyline but this is what works in wrestling is angles and story lines like this that get people to talk about wrestling. this is the first time in about 5 years that i am looking forward to a raw and its because of the who blew up vince's limo storyline.
drphiltheawesomeninja22
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well in hopes of convincing us all that vince is "dead"...well they miserably failed there. yet they did get EVERYONE talking about it, and are getting people to watch...congrats there. I too am lookin forward to raw to see what B.S. they try to pull next....Its just ridiculous how they seemingly try to convince us that he truly is dead. (raise the flag at half mast, hold a ecw tribute show, postponed the supp. draft, blah blah blah..) cut the bs, and get to the "whodunnit crap"
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the_phenomenal1
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Probably won't happen but how cool would it be if it was Bret Hart who masterminded it, and they were going to bring in Harry Smith, Teddy Hart, Nattie Niedhart with Bret leading them (in a non-competing role perhaps) They would have to be ab****ely sure of these guys though, because if they had used this to take Vince of television then it would have to be big. Not just a couple of PPV's then forgotten about.
New Hart Foundation???
However this is very unlikely. What i think will happen is there'll bee two or three months of Whoduunit? stuff which will include a lot of handicap matches for Lashley and anyone else with a "motive." (because thats punishment to fit the crime! hmm life in jail? or being prodded in the neck with a fat samoans thumb??)
Then suddenly Vinnie Mac wil be back like a "Heeeeeeeeeeeeeere's Vinnie" angle lol. Will be a 20 minute promo about him being appreciated, JR kicking off on commentary about him faking his own death, King being happy he's back and everything back to normal.
or will it.....
thats if we get pRAWdictable monday nights back and this past weeks quality show was just an accident.
Just have to wait and see.........
New Hart Foundation???
However this is very unlikely. What i think will happen is there'll bee two or three months of Whoduunit? stuff which will include a lot of handicap matches for Lashley and anyone else with a "motive." (because thats punishment to fit the crime! hmm life in jail? or being prodded in the neck with a fat samoans thumb??)
Then suddenly Vinnie Mac wil be back like a "Heeeeeeeeeeeeeere's Vinnie" angle lol. Will be a 20 minute promo about him being appreciated, JR kicking off on commentary about him faking his own death, King being happy he's back and everything back to normal.
or will it.....
thats if we get pRAWdictable monday nights back and this past weeks quality show was just an accident.
Just have to wait and see.........
Rock-N-Sock
New Member
i have more information about vince and the ministry. i was told that kevin thorne of ecw is being asked about his possible role in the ministry. this could all come together by judgement day or survivor series with the latest being at wrestlemania. i will update more as i receive more info. i have info saying that on raw they will be interviewing wrestlers backstage and that stonecold will be on raw via satelite being interviewed by coach. they will start the who killed vince story on RAW this Monday. Enjoy.. more info soon.
Mexican Geek
It's good to be back!
^^Sources??? Wait, Let me guess!... Dave Meltzer for sure!!!
We have a
Area for that kind of Info, u know? Unless you have reliable sources and links to prove it, please... Back on the topic...
Latest on Vince Death, taken from WWE.com
I really want to see a interview involving the rest of the McMahon's..Not Dusty Rhodes!
did anyone saw the Ed Kauffman video statement at wwe.com? I cant watch any form of video here at the Office
Luther_Hull
Cunt.
Y'know what that is don't ya? Fucking bullshit that's what that is, that being said, I'll give my opinion on things.
The idea you've come up with, although has flaws, like Judgment Day has already past, is quite a good idea, but why bring people like Kevin Thorn or Gangrel into this? This is a major storyline so needs major players, Kane, Undertaker etc. bringing him back from the dead, slightly cheesy, but great telly as well.
What seems likely though is that Vince did it himself, to get real appreciation from the fans, pathetic I know, but it just seems likely nd as their keeping this real-ish if someone was found to do it surely they'd go to prison? Vince doing it himself seems like how they'll do it.
Seriously Rock N Sock...give us a source....because everything you said is either A: Total Bullshit or B: Complete and Total Bullshit.
You keep coming on here and bullshitting, you're going to get banned. Oh and that post was spam mate.
Seriously...if you don't give us a source, you just sound like a jackass.
You keep coming on here and bullshitting, you're going to get banned. Oh and that post was spam mate.
Seriously...if you don't give us a source, you just sound like a jackass.
Joey Styles? He has been vicious towards Vince in the commentary. It should be an ECW guy who did it. The excuse could be that Vince ruined ECW, hence him being attacked. They have constantly used the storyline that the ECW originals aren't thrilled by the way things are going. I agree that Paul Heyman would make a good suspect, but what about the street tough Tazz? Maybe Tazz went all Brooklyn on Vince! I sincerely hope they didn't kill off the McMahon character for good. I, personally, would start a petition if they did. I know people are critical of McMahon, but his character is absolutely hilarious and one of my favorites of all time. Vince should remain on TV, but just a little less often. Every week is a bit much, but getting rid of him totally would be a shame.
Sorry for the length, and I hope I don't get in trouble, but my head is exploding with this angle! That just proves it is well done. Maybe Shane could get "possessed" by the spirit of Vince, and start acting like him. That's going a little too far, but it would be funny. I cannot even fathom how this will turn out, which, again, means this is, IMHO, a good angle!
Sorry for the length, and I hope I don't get in trouble, but my head is exploding with this angle! That just proves it is well done. Maybe Shane could get "possessed" by the spirit of Vince, and start acting like him. That's going a little too far, but it would be funny. I cannot even fathom how this will turn out, which, again, means this is, IMHO, a good angle!
Mexican Geek
It's good to be back!
justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
the video is a waste of 27 seconds all he says is that he is the lead investagator on this case, and that since it is still an open investagation no questions will be answered at this time, then he just walks off, it should also be noted that the "press conference" looks faker than a SNL skit
speaking of things being fake in this storyline, just thought I'd point out that 99% of the storylines we see in wrestling is fake, hell a morjority of the shit you see on TV is fake, what did you think they were going to do, kill Vince for real
WTF? Interesting group of talent but it would make no sense to group some of these guys together.
Kane? Maybe. His character has been demonic in the past and he hasn't any memorable feuds recently.
Edge? Why? Would he be the leader? As a legitimate main eventer and current World Champion, why would be be grouped into a silly recreation of an angle that wasn't good the first time? I would assume he would be vehemently against this, and rightfully so.
Kevin Thorne, sure, why not?
Snitsky, sure, why not?
Big Vis? I'd feel bad for the big guy, because he's already fallen under the spell of evil once. But his role on TV is pretty lame, so why not?
Shelton Benjamin...other than Edge, this is the one that stuck out at me. What for? Benjamin has always been portrayed as a cocky legitimate athlete. How or why he would fall under some spell would probably be ridiculous and poorly done.