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No Surrender: Four Ways To Glory Match

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MAIN EVENT FOR THE TNA WRESTLING WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP: FOUR WAYS TO GLORY MATCH:
Champion Samoa Joe vs. Booker T vs. ?? vs. ??​

I hope the 4 ways to glory is just saying that the winner get's to main event BFG nad it's not some fort of fatal 4-way gimmick match. New TNA gimmick matches have a habit of being more complicated than they need to be. That means that instead of explaining the rules on iMPACT they'll take 10 minutes out at the PPV. Pointless.

They're doing qualifiers each week for this match. So that means that the actual main event won't be set until a few days before it takes place. I'm sure they could just put the top 4 contenders in a match, sounds easier to me.

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Next Weeks Qualifier:​

Booker wins
 
This might be a good match or it may not. TNA's mainevents are usually good but you never know. As for who will be in the match I'm not 100% shure. The 1st qualifier match seems to me pretty easy to predict. 1st you have "King" Booker T who has main evented in the last 2 PPV's against Joe, was in a storyline with Sting/Joe, and then was screwed at the last PPV. Then u have Rhyno who has been in the midcard as a tag team with Christian taking on Team 3D. It seems like Booker is the obvious choice and it fits the storyline so he's my choice.

As for the other spots they could place Angle or Styles or both but I'm not sure. I could see Sting being in it since he's involved with Joe but I heard he has contract disputes so who knows. Also Jeff Jarett is a possibility but I highly doubt he would make his "grand" return on IMPACT...but with TNA anything's impossible.
 
We know that Somoa Joe and Booker T will compete in this match and I think that the other two competitors would be Sting and Kevin Nash. If this is the case and I am right in my prediction I think that this would be a great match, but I think it would be even greater if it were Angle and Styles in the match as opposed to Sting and Nash.

Somoa Joe vs Booker T vs Sting vs Kevin Nash

If Not

Somoa Joe vs Booker T vs Kurt Angle vs AJ Styles

What ever the match maybe I strongly expect Joe to retain his title, and at this present time I believe that he will go on to face Sting at Bound For Glory.
 
I'm going for Booker, Angle, AJ and Joe. It would be nice to see AJ in a title match again, and Angle vs Joe has been done to death but in a multi-man match with Joe as champ I think it could refresh their feud together. Booker is a sure thing to get in also and extend his feud.

As for the match itself I'm going with interference by Sting and Jarrett leading to Joe retaining and then Joe facing Jarrett at Bound for Glory maybe and AJ vs Sting... maybe... I don't see the point in AJ cutting promos about how he's sick of Sting on Impact and Sting hitting the Scorpion Death Drop on him if they aren't going to have a PPV match at some point.

Then again they could put AJ vs Sting at No Surrender and then Jarrett vs Sting and Joe vs AJ at Bound for Glory... But then what do you do with Angle and Booker... I'll need to go away and think about this.
 
The 4 ways to glory seems like a fancy title for fatal four way to me.

Samoa Joe vs Booker T vs Kurt Angle vs AJ Styles

Booker is practically a lock. Kurt and AJ have been using the sting tricks and Jarrett tricks on impact and stuff. Plus Sting and Jeff will wait to make their ppv return at Bound for Glory. Joe will face Nash at BFG. AJ will face Sting, and Kurt will face Jarrett.
 
Is this actually for the Championship? I mean, it seems like a perfect title for a Championship contender's match, more so than a Championship match. "Four Ways to Glory" would be a nice ringing contender's match, for the next in line p.p.v., Bound For Glory. I swear I heard it announced as a Championship match though, which means we have to go through yet another Samoa Joe victory celebration.

Booker T. against Rhino is on tap for the first qualifying round match, and I doubt Rhino advances. Booker T. and Samoa Joe are getting old though, and the final two opposite them would likely be A.J. Styles and Kurt Angle, which will complete the shit-fest.

I don't even know who could be the opposite two other than possibly Christian Cage and maybe Matt Morgan, which I don't even want to assume he's progressed THAT much in this amount of time.

I doubt Sting or Kevin Nash are options, because it seems to be building to a Sting v. Jarrett showdown, and Nash's B.F.G. match against Joe, should come off Nash turning on Joe to end THIS Pay Per View, not having Nash involved in the actual match.

I doubt Styles and Angle will be seperated, so if they're in, it's both or neither. Which would leave.. who? Joe, Booker T., Christian Cage and.. .. I really don't know.
 
Maybe its just me, but doesnt "Four Ways To Glory" sounds like a porn movie?. Sure Bound For Glory does it too.

The match will probably be good but I think we can all expect some swerve in the end. I hope not another lights going out...
 
Its obvious It'll be Booker vs Joe vs Angle vs AJ. The lights will go out the first time and Sting will level AJ with a Scorpion Deathdrop. Then they will go out again and Joe will hit Angle with the guitar. Booker will go for the bat but Joe will hit him with the muscle buster and the pin.
 
Well, that's TNA's booking for you. Got two feuds that have been done to death? Have they faced every week on iMPACT! and become overexposed? Don't want to go down the road of [Random Words] Street Fight for numerous months, a la 3D/LAX? Then boy do I have a deal for you! Just combine them into a four-man match, doi! Don't make it too obvious this is your goal though, have qualifying matches. That way, it makes it look like the end result is going to be remotely surprising. It won't be, but it might seem like that.

So yeah, I'm fairly certain that it'll be Angle and Styles going in along with Booker. As for the end result, I'll be incredibly surprised if Booker walks out with the title, but he's the only real option other than Joe. I'm expecting Angle and Styles to brawl to the backstage area, be incapacitated by Jarrett and Sting respectively or both. The match itself won't be anything spectacular. Functional. Good even. Something we've seen so many times before though.
 
So Booker won in a result that probably only surprised the people who booked it. It was the right result, but as a result of that result were were left with a boring result. Fo shizzle.

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I have no idea who wins this week, so no handy little spoiler drop down box. But I'm gonna guess Kurt Angle. Don't ask me how I know. I guess it's because I'm a prediction machine, or maybe because it's just predictable.

If all the top 3 contenders are going to end up in this match, then shouldn't they just book them in it. It's pointless having matches to enter this match if the outcome is already known.
 
Well I guess this is a bit better than just putting them together into one big match with no rhyme or reason. At the very least this gives us a tiny hope for a swerve taht won't happen. I'll be astonished if its not Joe/Booker/Angle/Styles with Joe holding onto it and going to BFG to face Sting. This match does next to nothing for me. Four mans can be fun if they're done right, but the idea of it being "the winner goes to BFG to defend the title" just leaves me shaking my head. Ok, when doesn't the champion main event the biggest show of the year? Why can't they just call it the world title match? Another great match name from TNA that changes absolutely nothing at all.
 
This match is practically the same as the "Road to Victory" Four way between Sting, Christian Cage, Scott Steiner and Samoa Joe at Victory Road 2006, except this is for the World Championship and not the #1 contenders spot.

Joe will win and lose the title to Sting at BFG. TBH im more excited by Jarrett's return than the World Championship picture atm. Joe and Bookers matches and build has sucked arse, i would of prefered to see Joe vs Tomko, but maybe thats just me.
 
I thought four ways to BFG meant the four possible men that will be champion when BFG rolls around and therefore headline the event. This of course assuming there won't be any title matches on iMpact! betweenn No Surrender and Bound for Glory, which would help the case of my assumption.

Anyway, of course Joe will retain here but I strongly believe he won't drop it to Sting at Bound for Glory and will be the first man to successfully retain his title at the event. That would definitely put the icing on top of his reign. I mean, Sting has headlined and won the title at the last two BFG events in a row, it would be a waste to make it three. Plus, I don't see how TNA can pull off a heel Sting beating Joe and the crowd eating it up, but then again, Sting will probably be one of those heels that gets cheered insead of boo'ed anyway and the fans will boo Joe, so I suppose that's not a problem. I just feel they may want to have Joe retain and then drop it at Genesis in a multi-man match without being pinned. At least, it's what I would do. They can still start off the Millionaire's Club angle if Joe retains and in fact, it would be more motivation.
 
When I first heard of this match, it reminded me of a best of three falls series where each fall was different ex. pinfall, submission and ladder match. So the four ways to glory meant four ways to win. But I am suspecting TNA to mix this up and make it very complicated like there are four ways to win and each wrestler has a different one that puts them out of their element. Like Booker can on win by submission, and Joe can only win by pinning two oponents at once ect. While complicated if done right it could be interesting with every wrestler going for a differant way to win but the down side is that we would know who had to do what because Mike Tenay would be reminding us every 10 seconds.
 
Sting has to stop winning main events at bound for glory. If it is Joe vs Sting in Chicago, it would be a great place for Sting to pass the torch. The new vs old storyline is gonna play right into this, its gonna be great. I hope the crowd is half and half. And i hope Nash calls the match with Don and Mike. And doesnt get involved.

If Christian Cage makes it into the 4ways to glory match, im looking for rhino to gore the hell out of him during the bout, taking him out of the equation. Rhino needs to go heel on Cage, setting up there BFG rematch. We all know Rhino can be a great monster. Flip the script on there fued/friendship.

Im looking for Jeff Jarrett to take Booker T out of the match at no surrender, setting them up for a great, nostalgic, one on one battle at BFG.

THis leaves Angle and AJ open for there blowoff at BFG. Its probably too many singles matches for TNA's tastes. But they all have such great stories leading into them.

Maybe Aj and Jarrett, taking on Angle and Booker. Thats TNA vs WWE. Good god, bound for glory is gonna be awesome. And im going...hahah!
 
I think Joe as champion has been well played out and i think AJ has been recieveing his push for main event status well and become champion and hopefully Bound for Glory will be something along the lines of a six man tag consisting of Joe/AJ/Jarret vs. Angle/Booker/Sting giving us a TNA pioneers vs. WWE pioneers angle
 
Well its down to Booker Joe Christian or Angle, I dont see Angle winning this one no chance, so that leaves Booker Joe and Christian. Christian could win it it is in his home town so he would get a huge pop but to be honest he hasnt been geared up for hte main event recently so IN would be surprised. Booker came close at Hard Justice but to be honest I dont think TNA want him to carry the belt. If Booker does win I think it will have something to do with Sting or Nash turning on him. I think though that TNA will want Joe to carry the belt into Bound For Glory so therefore by process of elimination I see Joe retaining the title.
 
I was surprised that Cage is the final wrestler in this match. I assumed it would be A.J., I figured they'd just dump Cage into another match with Rhino. Should be a good main event. But it's almost certain that Jarrett will come along and make the ending far more complicated than it needs to be.
 
This is practically the end-all, be-all to trying to get Samoa Joe over. He's facing three of the individual's he's had the most problems with.

Kurt Angle: Samoa Joe and Angle had way too long of a feud, that Kurt ended up taking a huge win/loss lead in. Joe won the last match they had, that mattered, when he became World Heavyweight Champion.. but since he hasn't rematched Angle (on p.p.v.) for that title. This will be Angle's 'rematch' as it were.

Christian Cage: The more silent of the three opponents, but when Cage was heel he held a victory, or a couple actually, over Samoa Joe in retaining the World Heavyweight Championship. Joe, to my knowledge, has never defeated Christian when the title's been on the line.

Booker T.: The newest thorn in Joe's side, I guess you could say. Booker has what it takes to be a World Heavyweight Champion, but then again everyone OTHER than Joe has that quality, so that doesn't help Booker's cause. I think this match will end with Booker taking the wrap.

Overall: Like I said, this is the end-all, be-all to T.N.A. trying to get Samoa Joe over definately. By having him out-do, out-last or what have you and win this match.. he'll have upset three of the biggest rivals he's had. Making him 'worthy' I guess you could say. That alone is why I imagine Joe will retain.

The off-set chance a new Champion is crowned, I'm willing to bet a lot of money on Joe not being apart of the deciding factor, so he can work his way back into the Championship scene by claiming he never lost, blah, blah, blah.

Jake said it best. Jeff Jarrett is likely going to play a role in this match, that's basically unneeded. Sting against Jarrett is likely heading to Bound For Glory, so why have them interrupt this match? That's only going to hurt Joe, if the outcome has anything to do with him retaining due to more mind games.
 
After a good couple of months you'd hope Joe would be a good enough champ that he'd not have to beat all of TNA's main eventers. But he really is an awful champion. I like him, but it's a good job TNA is still a glorified indy promotion. His jelly belly would be enough to turn off new fans. The negative from his reign is that I also don't want to see Umaga as a world champion. I really don't think fat champs work in this day and age.

It should be a good match. But what's sad is that it's really nothing new. We'll be seeing a very similar main event this time next year, just with Booker as champ.
 
Well, it should be a good and entertaining fatal four way match up. But I really hope neither Sting nor Jeff Jarrett interrupts this match because I really can't see what they have to do with this match as it looks like they will have a feud and a match against each other at Bound For Glory. I'm suprised Christian Cage is in this match instead on A.J Styles. I thought it made more sense to have Styles in the title match.

Anyway, I really can't see Booker T winning this match at all as he already had two title shots on pay per view. I think it's too soon to put the title on Kurt Angle again as he only lost the title to Joe a few months ago. Christian just won't win the title as I don't see the point of it with Bound For Glory coming up next month. So the only real option left is Samoa Joe himself as like Will mentioned, the match should be designed to make Joe look more credible as champion by defeated 3 other guys that he's had problems with in the past. I fully expect Christian to take the pinfall.

But it should be a great match nonetheless that I am personally looking forward to.
 
This sounds like total shit to me. Booker not showing up. I don't care what anyone else says. Booker wouldn't have missed the show if he was working for WWE. He probably could have made the show. But why bother when TNA management won't do anything about it. This is the third time in a year when a PPV main event hasn't had all the wrestlers involved. At least unlike Turning Point & Sacrifice tehy didn't offer up a sub standard replacement.
 
I love how the match (in my original opinion) was designed to put Samoa Joe over as a worthy Heavyweight Champion, and it did everything BUT that.

Much like C.M. Punk in the W.W.E., the on-going storyline is that Samoa Joe might not be "worthy" to be a Champion. The only difference to me is, at least Joe actually did something to accomplish becoming Champion. Beating Kurt Angle is SOMETHING, but for whatever reason Joe continued to feel he needed to prove himself. So like I said before, beating 3 former Heavyweight Champions is the way to do it.. so did he? Yes.. technically.

Booker T. didn't show up because of Hurricane Ike. I'm a bit curious since he's from the Houston area, and the Hurrican wiped out much of Houston, if Booker's even okay. As Jake said, I'm sure if it was any other p.p.v. he would've showed.. but one that he likely knew he wouldn't play a huge role in, why bother. The show being IN Canada formed completely around Christian Cage anyways.

Speaking of which, Cage made Joe look like a complete joke. Cage kicked out of Joe's finisher, and it was (I believe) a chair shot and an Angle Slam to Cage to the floor, that eliminated Cage from the match. (I don't think a single Canadian won on that p.p.v.) So that left Angle v. Joe.. .. again.

Angle had Joe seemingly beat, until Jeff Jarrett comes down and blasts Angle with a guitar shot and Joe picks up the victory basically from that, only with an extra added Muscle Buster. :rolleyes:

So in the end, Cage was over more than anyone. Booker no-showed and blamed a hurricane. Angle had the match won but seemingly got robbed by his (assumed) Bound For Glory opponent, and that left Joe to pick up the pieces on what would be a failing Championship run.
 

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