Mizdow is NOT better than Miz

MartialHorror

Mid-Card Championship Winner
Before you smarks start harping, I'm not referring to talent. Sandow is an excellent worker, being awesome on the mic and in the ring. The Miz is awesome on the mic too, but only mediocre in the ring. Yet it bothers me that the announcers keep stressing that Mizdow is superior to the Miz. When has he ever shown this?

Mizdow has actually done very little since teaming with the Miz. Usually when he gets in there, it only lasts for a second before the Miz tags himself in. Of course, I am only referring to kayfabe ability, but if anything I think the Miz is coming across as stronger. He pretty much has taken on every tag team mostly by himself, but for some reason the announcers like to ignore this. I remember when Mizdow finally did something and fought Goldust and Stardust by himself. They acted like he was amazing even though the Miz usually does the same thing on a weekly basis. Yet the Miz got crap for stealing the win, even though if memory serves, Mizdow was about to lose. If anything, the Miz turned out to be more useful than Sandow has.

How many times has Sandow been screwing around outside of the ring when the Miz needs help? Even if Miz sort of stole the win, at least he was there. Mizdow only seems to be available to tag in when he feels like it. Yet once again, the Miz is supposed to be the bad guy even though his partner seems to be unreliable. I also think Sandow looks rather awkward whenever he uses the Miz's style, which is to be expected as he is using someone elses style. Yet Cole tries to sell it as 'being better', even though nothing in the ring supports this. Although that doesn't stop him from calling Mizdow an idiot whenever he starts imitating Miz.

I like Mizdow and think his gimmick is funny, although it's beginning to grow stale. But it bothers me how the announcers are claiming that he's better than the Miz when there has been little-to-no evidence to support this. The Miz spent 90% of an awesome match taking on the Tag Team Champions. He might be an asshole, but that kind of deserves praise on a kayfabe level. Mizdow on the other hand was squashed by the Ascension on that same night. Am I the only one who feels this way?

I hope that Mizdow and Miz split soon, as I would actually like to see Mizdow show these alleged abilities that the announcers seem to know about even though we haven't seen much of them in the ring. On a side note, does WWE know what a stunt double is? If anything, Mizdow should be wrestling more or intercepting attacks. That sounds like it would be the better idea to give him credibility and sympathy anyway.
 
That's the gimmick he's supposed to do everything the Miz does, he's his stunt double, and bloody hilarious at it as well. I do agree that sometimes he does take it a bit far, and you can see the crowd is watching Mizdow instead of the match, it works for them though.

Sandow is a pretty good wrestler, but since teaming up with Miz he hasn't had a chance to show it, as Miz hogs the spotlight all the time. Yes Miz does do most of the work now, but that's part of the gimmick as well, he doesn't want his stunt double in there taking all the credit.

I see this gimmick slowly coming to an end, as Miz will either get Jealous of the attention and the pops that Mizdow gets, or Mizdow will not put up with being left out anymore.

That will be fun times and I'm looking forward to it.
 
Mizdow is being heavily cheered cause of his stunt double gimmick. He mus be cheered till his match against Miz after the split. He is entertaining crowd as a stunt double. When he becomes Damien Sandow he will be cheered but not like right now he is being cheered. He doesn't have a Rockstar Spud like gimmick which gets the crowd behind him. But,as he is a good in ring worker, he can evolve further. Whats next for him after his split from the Miz?
 
As a lot of people put their eyes on Mizdow because of his antics, they ignore the GREAT work Miz is doing in putting this storyline over. He acts as the arrogant douche and makes the fans want to see Mizdow turn on him and beat the holy hell out of him.

The little things, like every time he teases tagging in Mizdow only to continue wrestling, the promos (We want Miz NOW!) and attention hogging. All these little elements that Miz adds put Sandow over even more. Sandow is cheered as people want him to beat the crap out of the prick Miz. Its a simple rule: the more evil the heel is, the more over the face will be who the fans want to rally behind.

Of course, that doesn't mean that Sandow has done nothing and he could have been anyone else in this role. Sandow has got over due to sheer hard work and he's turned chicken shit into chicken salad, something that few are capable of in WWE. It's just that Miz's work should not be ignored too.
 
Sandow is what he is: Great comedy. He is so over now that it is not funny. When this Mizdow team finally gets split up, Sandow will kill Miz, and then become a good comedy mid-carder, filling Santino's role.
 
if you go back to miz's early days in WWE - he was a joke. Nobody respected him in the ring and he was mediocre at best. But in 2007/2008 he took giant strides forwards and ended up in the main event of WM and WON! He has done relatively little since and his faceturn and allignment with Ric Flair went nowhere. But that was because his character was boring.

With Sandow; his charter has always been entertaining. He could be a top star if he was allowed to be more aggressive. Unfortunately, his time went when he cashed in on John Cena. What a total waste of a gimmick (the briefcase) and a rising star (Sandow). It did nothing for Cena but made WWE look out of touch with its fans.
 
Miz will always be a great heel, but I think he could do better than the "I'm a giant douchebag" gimmick. However, it's working for now and Damien Sandow is playing off it great. I think the danger is that WWE will tread the familiar path of driving the same schtick down our throats every week and turn it into something boring.

On the subject of Sandow, he is everything you want in a performer and yet still can't get the necessary attention of the creative team to see it.(He obviously has their attention now, but I think they are vastly underestimating this guy's talent).

Lastly, how funny was it to see Miz with both belts and Mizdow with stunt belts? I loved it. They need them back.
 
Damien Mizdow's gimmick is pretty unusual, though it's one that's caught on with fans temporarily. A lot of people think it's genuinely funny, which it is sometimes, though this gimmick has a pretty short shelf life that I'd say will be up by the time WrestleMania comes around. To be honest, I'm surprised that it's lasted as long as it has.

This stunt double thing might be the thing that ultimately gets Mizdow over as a babyface character upon his eventual split with Miz, though I don't see any main event time in his future anytime soon. Or, fans lose interest after he stops doing the stunt double thing, though they're gonna lose interest anyhow because there's only so long a comedic character can stay around before the laughs are replaced by annoyed boos.
 
I honestly believe it's a ridiculous gimmick... It's not really funny to me and I thought it was a disgrace to true tag teams you know the teams that both people fight against 2 other people not just one guy fighting a handicap match while his partner is on the floor doing flips and head locks on the floor like a crazy person. If they want to give sandow Charlie haas old gimmick them fine by me just don't ruin the tag division any worse than it already is
 
The tag team division is so ruined it doesn't matter what Mizdow does. It's not as bad as the stupid crap the Ascension said about the road warriors after they proved nothing by beating another team of jobbers.

The name of the game in wrestling is getting over. Miz and Mizdow both feed off each other. Without the other the whole thing doesn't work. Miz works hard to be hated, Mizdow works to get positive crowd reaction, which he gets better than most of the locker besides probably Ryback and Daniel Bryan (and Cena depending where the show is that night).

Now the tag titles are gone I hope it leads to a feud between each other, hopefully at WrestleMania, but I fear for Mizdow's next angle after, Miz can get away with being an obnoxious twerp, Mizdow needs a purpose in his angles.
 
Miz has been one of the most under-rated guys on the roster by the company and the fans for a long time now. He's a perfect heel, knows his character well, can generate genuine heat and is able to work a match. I don't think he'll ever get back to where he was a few years ago but he should be a high midcard act that can be used to work with babyfaces being groomed for the main event. This comedy act is a waste of him.
 
Although it is amusing at times, I have begun to grow a bit bored with the Mizdow shtick. Unfortunately for me if it follows traditional WWE booking, something will happen at Royal Rumble like Mizdow eliminating Miz, Miz comes back in and throws out Mizdow, and it culminates in one of the early matches at WM. So I think we have a few more months of this.
 
As a lot of people put their eyes on Mizdow because of his antics, they ignore the GREAT work Miz is doing in putting this storyline over. He acts as the arrogant douche and makes the fans want to see Mizdow turn on him and beat the holy hell out of him.

That's a good point and, presumably, the fans will eventually get what they want......Mizdow will turn the tables. Still, Miz's fine work in this program shouldn't be ignored. I haven't particularly favored his work these past years but have to admit Miz' ability to "make Mizdow look good by making him look bad" is something not every performer could do successfully.

In that regard, the question in the title of this subject ("Mizdow is not better than Miz") is kind of irrelevant, don't you think? The purpose of having Miz refuse to tag out when it would be to his advantage, virtually ignore his partner in the heat of a match, and steal victories at the end is all leading to an inevitable conclusion. Thing is, it can go one of two ways: either this whole shebang is designed to elevate Damien Sandow for another individual run.....or to simply give Miz something to do while he waits for the next thing.

Either way, it's nothing terribly exciting, but the program itself is interesting, the fans seem to be enjoying it, and it doesn't really matter which guy is "better".....regardless of what Michael Cole is saying at ringside.
 
You talk like these announcers are supposed to be unbiased stalwarts of media decorum. They are anything but. They are being obnoxious because Miz and Mizdow are obnoxious. Why would anyone praise The Miz? He is representing everything that is wrong with celebrity and he isn't even much of a celebrity. JBL has picked on Miz for years. Cole is being a face commentator who is playing along with the fans.

I don't think you are supposed to take any of this seriously.
 
My issue is simply a matter of continuity. I understand that the Miz not tagging in Mizdow is driven from jealousy and douchebaggery, a way to get heat. The announcers keep claiming though that Mizdow is supposed to be better than the Miz. But he's never really showed that and I'm curious as to where they are getting that information.

Mizdow has barely wrestled during their tag team reign. This would make more sense if the Miz had Mizdow do the majority of the work early on, only to get jealous and start taking over- maybe losing the belts himself in the process. This would show us that Mizdow deserves better and make us sympathize for him. Yet Cole attacked Miz for tagging himself in after Mizdow did all the work in the Goldust/Stardust match, but doesn't want to acknowledge that Mizdow did the exact same thing when they won the belts...and tends to screw around outside of the ring when Miz is getting his ass kicked.

But then even the babyface commentators call him an idiot at the same time. Everyone interpreted this thread as 'Does the Mizdow gimmick' work, but my original issue is that WWE has sort of forgotten to allow Mizdow to show off his skills that the commentators keep referring too. If they're referring to the time before he became Mizdow, then that makes less sense as Sandow tended to be squashed immediately.
 
Before you smarks start harping, I'm not referring to talent. Sandow is an excellent worker, being awesome on the mic and in the ring. The Miz is awesome on the mic too, but only mediocre in the ring. Yet it bothers me that the announcers keep stressing that Mizdow is superior to the Miz. When has he ever shown this?

Mizdow has actually done very little since teaming with the Miz. Usually when he gets in there, it only lasts for a second before the Miz tags himself in. Of course, I am only referring to kayfabe ability, but if anything I think the Miz is coming across as stronger. He pretty much has taken on every tag team mostly by himself, but for some reason the announcers like to ignore this. I remember when Mizdow finally did something and fought Goldust and Stardust by himself. They acted like he was amazing even though the Miz usually does the same thing on a weekly basis. Yet the Miz got crap for stealing the win, even though if memory serves, Mizdow was about to lose. If anything, the Miz turned out to be more useful than Sandow has.

How many times has Sandow been screwing around outside of the ring when the Miz needs help? Even if Miz sort of stole the win, at least he was there. Mizdow only seems to be available to tag in when he feels like it. Yet once again, the Miz is supposed to be the bad guy even though his partner seems to be unreliable. I also think Sandow looks rather awkward whenever he uses the Miz's style, which is to be expected as he is using someone elses style. Yet Cole tries to sell it as 'being better', even though nothing in the ring supports this. Although that doesn't stop him from calling Mizdow an idiot whenever he starts imitating Miz.

I like Mizdow and think his gimmick is funny, although it's beginning to grow stale. But it bothers me how the announcers are claiming that he's better than the Miz when there has been little-to-no evidence to support this. The Miz spent 90% of an awesome match taking on the Tag Team Champions. He might be an asshole, but that kind of deserves praise on a kayfabe level. Mizdow on the other hand was squashed by the Ascension on that same night. Am I the only one who feels this way?

I hope that Mizdow and Miz split soon, as I would actually like to see Mizdow show these alleged abilities that the announcers seem to know about even though we haven't seen much of them in the ring. On a side note, does WWE know what a stunt double is? If anything, Mizdow should be wrestling more or intercepting attacks. That sounds like it would be the better idea to give him credibility and sympathy anyway.

Maybe they're trying to sell the audience on a potential split between the two. Trying to persuade viewers on Mizdow's potential so if they do break up, they could be sold as equals instead of Miz being so superior to Mizdow.
 

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