This is somewhat of an intresting dynamic, CM Punk the centerpiece of the WWE for the past year now has seemingly turned. Its intresting because WWE has a lot of time and money invested in CM Punk, and i have yet to hear somebody bring up; Punk has a DVD coming out here in a little while. I just dont believe that this will be a full fledged heel turn, i think he'll be a tweener and will get over with the smart wrestling fans and the IWC alike. And punk, next week when he gives his explaination for his actions, he'll be able to play off "hey i never did like dwayne, and I was never even the main event of a pay per view in my 9 Month reign, i didnt screw the wwe the wwe screwed me." And over the past year Punk was able to face some of the top heels IE Daniel Bryan Danielson, Alberto Del Rio, Chris Jericho, Big Show, The Miz, Dolph Ziggler. So Now punks gonna be able to have fresh new match-ups with the likes of Sheamus, Christian, Rey Mysterio. So hey if nothing else this move has captured our eyes and attention, we're all damn sure gonna be tuning in next week, and we'll all be on the edge of our seats when the microphones in punks hands
**MERGED** CM Punk heel turn? (Keep it in here!!!!)
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mral82
The D.G.A.F.F.O.O.O. Champion
Shawn Michaels did this kinda thing back when he Superkicked Hogan and the Whole Savage-Warrior thing back around SS92. Punk is not a Heel as If I was a face and The Rock came in and dis-respected me then i woulda did the same thing he did. Plus many faces in the Past have done the same thing as Punk like Eddie Guerrero, Randy Savage, Hulk Hogan, John Cena, Stone Cold are a few of the faces who done exactly the same thing Punk did. It's all about keeping your Title at all costs and Punk gets classified as a heel which you sir need a Realty Check.
CM Punk transition to megastar!
Sorry it wouldnt let me make my own thread and well this is close enough. (First Timer)
So just had an idea, not sure how you guys will react but hey its an idea.
Cena needs to finally give up being the megastar for WWE to keep rolling, and it started tonight by having Punk in transition to a heel.
Next Raw Stone Cold comes out and explains that he didn't make the 1000th Raw because he was picking up the new championship belt and began having some brews which caused him missing his flight. Now he is here to present the new Championship Belt, out comes CM Punk with the current belt and a black duffle bag. Austin presents the new belt, Punk says its not what he had in mind; that the designers were probably just as drunk as Austin always is when they designed it. Punk throws his belt on the mat, gets the new belt spits on it and throws it on the mat as well. Opens up the duffle bag and presents his own belt & says WWE and everyone else took too long so he had to take it into his own hands to get it done. gets on the turn buckles and shows it off, as he is going across the ring to the other corner Austin stops him introduces the fingers to him and bam Punk gets the stunner. Austin isnt heard of again.
SummerSlam Rock & Cena team up one more time against the pairing of Show & Punk. Stipulation: Cena Rock win there will be special guest ref for Rock V Punk at the Rumble; Show Punk win then the Rumble match will be No DQ. Victory goes to Cena Rock. Meaning the rumble match will be Special Guest Ref. As punk is walking to the locker room after the loss, glass shatters out comes austin & stunners Punk again. Shares a few brews with Rock & Cena.
Rumble: Cena wins the rumble. Rock defeats Punk for the title. Rock V Cena II for wrestlemania! Monday Night Raw out comes Punk talks about his loss. Says he has one person to blame for that and that one person is Stone Cold Steve Austin. Austin comes out and says the only person to blame is yourself kid! Punk says he wants Austin, Austin says he is retired. Punk catches him off guard and gives him the gts!
@ another show have austin says he will have one more match, it will be his last battle and he is ready for war. that battle will be too much for any one night, the night has to be wrestlemania. Punk accepts!
Wrestlemania: Cena beats the Rock and is once again Champ! Then it is time for the much anticipated battle of the lone rebels! In an epic war match have either one win, but have it end with a stare down then a handshake. Austin grabs the mic & son you are ready to finally beat Cena Clean & become the Champ you deserve to be!
for the next year keep Cena & Punk away from each other. Have Cena be unstoppable as usual. Have Punk enter some more storylines maybe with Big Jonny coming back having to finally battle him. Keep Punk as not heel or face just a rebel. Then have Punk say he is ready for his belt back. He has beaten the odds to get back into the title scene and hes not leaving it without his belt. Sets up for SuperCena vs Cinderella Story Punk for wrestlmania.
In an all out war Punk finally overcomes SuperCena! Punk beats Cena clean for the first time, no DQs no foot under the rope, no one coming in to help. Just punk laying out Cena for the 1,2,3!
Now you have Punk as your new champ with a feel good story of the year, a guy who can be heel who can be face, who is a rebel at heart! Your new mega star for years to come...CM Punk!
Sorry for the drag-on.
Sorry it wouldnt let me make my own thread and well this is close enough. (First Timer)
So just had an idea, not sure how you guys will react but hey its an idea.
Cena needs to finally give up being the megastar for WWE to keep rolling, and it started tonight by having Punk in transition to a heel.
Next Raw Stone Cold comes out and explains that he didn't make the 1000th Raw because he was picking up the new championship belt and began having some brews which caused him missing his flight. Now he is here to present the new Championship Belt, out comes CM Punk with the current belt and a black duffle bag. Austin presents the new belt, Punk says its not what he had in mind; that the designers were probably just as drunk as Austin always is when they designed it. Punk throws his belt on the mat, gets the new belt spits on it and throws it on the mat as well. Opens up the duffle bag and presents his own belt & says WWE and everyone else took too long so he had to take it into his own hands to get it done. gets on the turn buckles and shows it off, as he is going across the ring to the other corner Austin stops him introduces the fingers to him and bam Punk gets the stunner. Austin isnt heard of again.
SummerSlam Rock & Cena team up one more time against the pairing of Show & Punk. Stipulation: Cena Rock win there will be special guest ref for Rock V Punk at the Rumble; Show Punk win then the Rumble match will be No DQ. Victory goes to Cena Rock. Meaning the rumble match will be Special Guest Ref. As punk is walking to the locker room after the loss, glass shatters out comes austin & stunners Punk again. Shares a few brews with Rock & Cena.
Rumble: Cena wins the rumble. Rock defeats Punk for the title. Rock V Cena II for wrestlemania! Monday Night Raw out comes Punk talks about his loss. Says he has one person to blame for that and that one person is Stone Cold Steve Austin. Austin comes out and says the only person to blame is yourself kid! Punk says he wants Austin, Austin says he is retired. Punk catches him off guard and gives him the gts!
@ another show have austin says he will have one more match, it will be his last battle and he is ready for war. that battle will be too much for any one night, the night has to be wrestlemania. Punk accepts!
Wrestlemania: Cena beats the Rock and is once again Champ! Then it is time for the much anticipated battle of the lone rebels! In an epic war match have either one win, but have it end with a stare down then a handshake. Austin grabs the mic & son you are ready to finally beat Cena Clean & become the Champ you deserve to be!
for the next year keep Cena & Punk away from each other. Have Cena be unstoppable as usual. Have Punk enter some more storylines maybe with Big Jonny coming back having to finally battle him. Keep Punk as not heel or face just a rebel. Then have Punk say he is ready for his belt back. He has beaten the odds to get back into the title scene and hes not leaving it without his belt. Sets up for SuperCena vs Cinderella Story Punk for wrestlmania.
In an all out war Punk finally overcomes SuperCena! Punk beats Cena clean for the first time, no DQs no foot under the rope, no one coming in to help. Just punk laying out Cena for the 1,2,3!
Now you have Punk as your new champ with a feel good story of the year, a guy who can be heel who can be face, who is a rebel at heart! Your new mega star for years to come...CM Punk!
Sorry for the drag-on.
Manof1,004Holds
Here Comes The Pain!
I was in shock and awe when I saw this.
Which means I was happy. CM Punk, in my opinion needed a change whether it be a heel turn or whatever. Yes, he did get stale. And when he attacked The Rock right in the middle of The People's Elbow on The Big Show, I was jumping out of my seat. But the question remains if CM Punk only turned heel to make people cheer John Cena at SummerSlam, or whenever Cena gets another title shot so the crowd won't be 50/50. I don't think this is the case though, I predict Punk to keep the title until the Royal Rumble, where he faces The Rock. What John Cena does meanwhile is the question.
Which means I was happy. CM Punk, in my opinion needed a change whether it be a heel turn or whatever. Yes, he did get stale. And when he attacked The Rock right in the middle of The People's Elbow on The Big Show, I was jumping out of my seat. But the question remains if CM Punk only turned heel to make people cheer John Cena at SummerSlam, or whenever Cena gets another title shot so the crowd won't be 50/50. I don't think this is the case though, I predict Punk to keep the title until the Royal Rumble, where he faces The Rock. What John Cena does meanwhile is the question.
The thing that makes Punk a heel is that he let Big Show attack Cena and didn't bother saving him then cheap shot Rocky. The moment Punk covered Cena after Big Show attacked him when the ref was out was the heel turn. The character CM Punk went back on his word of being best in the world and instead tried to retain the title no matter the cost.
If he didn't have the WWE title it would be a different story but the fact that he does have it means sadly Punk will now be a heel.
twisterwrw929
Dark Match Winner
I'm surprised most people are so against this, I think it makes things more interesting. I don't think Punk necessarily needed a heel turn, nor do I believe he had grown stale or boring, but I don't think he's the same as what he was last year. Think about the big shoot interview how he talks about the Rock main eventing Wrestlemania being a joke and about him being an ass kisser. After he turned face he did interviews where he'd complement the Rock, pictures coming up on twitter and wwe.com of them being all buddy buddy backstage, things that never would have happened last summer. Sure he'll still make the "controversial" comment here or there, but no where close to what he did last summer and even in the fall.
I don't know what the rest of 2012 hold for Punk, but if him and Cena feud, it'll give them a chance to have a real feud. Their first one was kind of cut short due to Wrestlemania coming around the corner and them needing to build Cena/Miz and Punk/Orton and last summer they only fought at Money in the Bank and Summerslam if I remember correctly, and Punk was pretty much a face by the time they matched up at Summerslam. They could have a real feud to end 2012 if they wanted to, if not I don't know exactly what happens with Punk but I'm sure they'll figure it out.
As for 2013, Punk being a heel helps tons. People in the live discussion tonight complained about Rock getting an automatic title match at the Rumble, not that this changes him getting a match for no reason but now they have the fall to build up this match between Punk and Rock and it adds more to the match. Plus Heel Punk vs Face Rock will be better then Face Punk vs Face Rock anyways. Once Punk puts Rock over at the Rumble, people wouldn't be able to complain that Punk is being burried, because he's the heel. It does way less damage for Punk to lose to Rock as a heel, opposed to him being a face.
Then for Wrestlemania, I think it makes Austin vs Punk more possible. I honestly have my doubts that it will happen, but if it does, a face vs face match makes absolutely no sense. I don't really see how that match gets set up with Punk being a face, as a heel they'll easily be able to set that match up. And people aren't going to boo Austin, not saying that they'd boo Punk if he was a face, but Austin is clearly the bigger star there. At least with the Rock, you have a portion of the crowd who dislikes him because they feel he abandonded them by going to Hollywood and constantly disappearing. Punk as a heel makes this potential match way better, and the build up to it would without question, would be better than if he was a face.
Punk being a heel for now will make for a more entertaining end of 2012, beginning of 2013 for sure.
I don't know what the rest of 2012 hold for Punk, but if him and Cena feud, it'll give them a chance to have a real feud. Their first one was kind of cut short due to Wrestlemania coming around the corner and them needing to build Cena/Miz and Punk/Orton and last summer they only fought at Money in the Bank and Summerslam if I remember correctly, and Punk was pretty much a face by the time they matched up at Summerslam. They could have a real feud to end 2012 if they wanted to, if not I don't know exactly what happens with Punk but I'm sure they'll figure it out.
As for 2013, Punk being a heel helps tons. People in the live discussion tonight complained about Rock getting an automatic title match at the Rumble, not that this changes him getting a match for no reason but now they have the fall to build up this match between Punk and Rock and it adds more to the match. Plus Heel Punk vs Face Rock will be better then Face Punk vs Face Rock anyways. Once Punk puts Rock over at the Rumble, people wouldn't be able to complain that Punk is being burried, because he's the heel. It does way less damage for Punk to lose to Rock as a heel, opposed to him being a face.
Then for Wrestlemania, I think it makes Austin vs Punk more possible. I honestly have my doubts that it will happen, but if it does, a face vs face match makes absolutely no sense. I don't really see how that match gets set up with Punk being a face, as a heel they'll easily be able to set that match up. And people aren't going to boo Austin, not saying that they'd boo Punk if he was a face, but Austin is clearly the bigger star there. At least with the Rock, you have a portion of the crowd who dislikes him because they feel he abandonded them by going to Hollywood and constantly disappearing. Punk as a heel makes this potential match way better, and the build up to it would without question, would be better than if he was a face.
Punk being a heel for now will make for a more entertaining end of 2012, beginning of 2013 for sure.
HBKistheHOF
Guest
AND WE HAVE OUR "BIG" SUMMER ANGLE!
Okay so Punk didn't even turn all that bad & it wasn't all that shocking but not playing the "Hero" totally gave Punk HIS EDGE BACK!
(Speaking of the Rated-R Superstar, where was he?!?!)
I can only hope Punk continues to gain some edge and a mixed reaction like Cena. Let him hover between good and evil, it adds intrigue.
Also while I won't be naive and think Cena is gone, this does add ALOT of possibilities to the title picture...
-CM Punk(c) vs. Daniel Bryan: Bryan isn't fighting Charlie Sheen. I think everyone wants to see a finale in this feud, maybe Iron Man or Last Man Standing???
-CM Punk(c) vs. John Cena vs. Daniel Bryan: Next Best option. Would probably be a great triple threat.
-Championship Scramble: CM Punk(c) vs. John Cena vs. Daniel Bryan vs. Kane vs. The Big Show: I wouldn't mind this. It's better than Punk just facing Cena again or Big Slow.
-CM Punk(c) vs. John Cena vs. Daniel Bryan vs. The Big Show: A fatal four way. An alternate if they need Kane for something else.
-CM Punk(c) vs. The Big Show vs. Daniel Bryan: I still prefer this over the options below.
-CM Punk(c) vs. John Cena vs. The Big Show: I see this being a strong option. Wouldn't be bad I quess.
-CM Punk(c) vs. John Cena: They can't do this match again without a stipulation. Iron Man or Last Man Standing. Their bouts are usually very good but if they repeat the "main event" of Summerslam, they NEED to finish it.
-CM Punk(c) vs. The Big Show: Just, please WWE, don't.
TONIGHT CEMENTED CM PUNK AS "THEE GUY"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay so Punk didn't even turn all that bad & it wasn't all that shocking but not playing the "Hero" totally gave Punk HIS EDGE BACK!
(Speaking of the Rated-R Superstar, where was he?!?!)
I can only hope Punk continues to gain some edge and a mixed reaction like Cena. Let him hover between good and evil, it adds intrigue.
Also while I won't be naive and think Cena is gone, this does add ALOT of possibilities to the title picture...
-CM Punk(c) vs. Daniel Bryan: Bryan isn't fighting Charlie Sheen. I think everyone wants to see a finale in this feud, maybe Iron Man or Last Man Standing???
-CM Punk(c) vs. John Cena vs. Daniel Bryan: Next Best option. Would probably be a great triple threat.
-Championship Scramble: CM Punk(c) vs. John Cena vs. Daniel Bryan vs. Kane vs. The Big Show: I wouldn't mind this. It's better than Punk just facing Cena again or Big Slow.
-CM Punk(c) vs. John Cena vs. Daniel Bryan vs. The Big Show: A fatal four way. An alternate if they need Kane for something else.
-CM Punk(c) vs. The Big Show vs. Daniel Bryan: I still prefer this over the options below.
-CM Punk(c) vs. John Cena vs. The Big Show: I see this being a strong option. Wouldn't be bad I quess.
-CM Punk(c) vs. John Cena: They can't do this match again without a stipulation. Iron Man or Last Man Standing. Their bouts are usually very good but if they repeat the "main event" of Summerslam, they NEED to finish it.
-CM Punk(c) vs. The Big Show: Just, please WWE, don't.
TONIGHT CEMENTED CM PUNK AS "THEE GUY"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
solidorange10
New Member
I honestly think WWE could go several ways with this and I don't believe they have decided which yet. I loved the fact that Cena was the first person to lose his MiTB cash-in attempt. Punk appeared to be a heel at the end of the show but other than attacking the Rock, which is someone who he has never be friendly with over the past year of his "babyface" time, they gave no indication that he would be other than not helping Cena at the end. WWE has less than a week to go in one of two directions, either Punk comes out and cuts a typical by the book heel promo or we get what I want and that is an anti-hero promo saying that he will prove he is the Best in the World, by beating Rock. If he gets buddy/buddy with Show, then it's obvious he's a heel, but I wouldn't be surprised if he played that fine line like he should've been for the past year. Nonetheless, Raw #1001 has me especially interested.
My problem with his heel turn here is that he turned on The Rock. The Rock won't be around next week to confront Punk so what's that really accomplishing? Cena is going to come out and be like "man, you let me get my ass kicked by show then you beat up Rocky! You've lost it Punk!".
Awful. I love the idea of Punk turning heel and love it even more when its by putting The Rock to sleep but I just wonder how they are going to play this out. Punk is amazing on the mic so he could go out solo next week and clear everything up and push himself into a solidified heel.
One minor issue though, Punk was heel last year when he went against Cena for the WWE championship. Why are they doing this again? Punk vs Cena is always gonna go the same, the fans will turn on Cena because Cena is full of shit and Punk is realistic. Everyone knows Cena will get a rematch, probably at summerslam so what exactly is the plan here, it's going to be a rehash of last summer and it's going to end the same way?
Awful. I love the idea of Punk turning heel and love it even more when its by putting The Rock to sleep but I just wonder how they are going to play this out. Punk is amazing on the mic so he could go out solo next week and clear everything up and push himself into a solidified heel.
One minor issue though, Punk was heel last year when he went against Cena for the WWE championship. Why are they doing this again? Punk vs Cena is always gonna go the same, the fans will turn on Cena because Cena is full of shit and Punk is realistic. Everyone knows Cena will get a rematch, probably at summerslam so what exactly is the plan here, it's going to be a rehash of last summer and it's going to end the same way?
BenChillin
Pre-Show Stalwart
This should keep him the "pipe bomb face" he was since he first got this mega push. I don't get how this is a heel move. He took out the part timer he was talking shit about on twitter.
Jerry Lawler telling us he's heel makes him heel I guess, but I hope this backfires and we get some CM Punk chants during all this, maybe even some classic promos.
Jerry Lawler telling us he's heel makes him heel I guess, but I hope this backfires and we get some CM Punk chants during all this, maybe even some classic promos.
Bryan Is A God
Dean Ambrose Is Coming.
CM Punk is a better heel. I think we all knew Punk or Cena was turning heel by the end of the show. It seemed more likely Punk was turning and he did. I guess we'll probably end up seeing Punk vs. Rock at the Rumble. That's where it looks like there heading.
ForzaItalia
Layeth The Smackdown!
This is the best explanation of where Punk's character is at the moment. It really was a genius turn and it really seems like it is leading to Austin/Punk. I will always be a fan of Punk, been one since his ROH days. I love this heel turn not only because what you said, but it also reminds me of the ending to The Dark Knight. Kind of like what you said, Batman takes on these villains and is loved by Gotham City, but when he takes out the beloved Harvey Dent, most of the city turns on him except the loyal people that know Batman's actions were justified. This is exactly how I see this Punk heel turn with Punk as Batman and The Rock as Harvey Dent. I am so excited to see Punk grab the mic next week to explain his actions, but I have a feeling, he'll grab the mic, say nothing, drop it, and leave. Perfect way to draw this out another week and to get him more heel heat. Let's just hope he comes out to Miseria Cantare next week. How awesome would that be!?
I gotta say, the ending was awsome. Never saw it coming. As far as the heel turn, I've always thought that Punk is a lot better as a heel..Yes, he did turn heel the moment he pinned Cena after Show attacked him, and at this point a heel turn is kinda refreshing for Punk cause let's be honest, he's been stale for a while. Beside, heel or face, The fans will be cheering Rock over Punk, just like they did during the early promo, so as a heel it won't be a problem.
I think Punk's reason behind his heel turn is bright as day...Sick and tired of being overshadowed by Rock and Cena.
BTW, The Rock is finaly in a wrestling ring shape. It's like 2002, all over again. The way he sold..oversold that clothsline was a amazin, in other words, "Vintage Rock".
I think Punk's reason behind his heel turn is bright as day...Sick and tired of being overshadowed by Rock and Cena.
BTW, The Rock is finaly in a wrestling ring shape. It's like 2002, all over again. The way he sold..oversold that clothsline was a amazin, in other words, "Vintage Rock".
couple of things after the match:
1}John cena win by a disqualifaction.I think he's going to get a rematch.
2}On summerslam there will be a triple threat match for the wwe title between Cm Punk & john cena and the big show.
3}On the royal rumble PPV on 2013 the rock will face Cm Punk.
4}the rock will win the title at the royal rumble and retain it in the elimination chamber.
5}john cena will win the royal rumble and will face the rock in a rematch at wrestle mania 29 for the wwe championship.
1}John cena win by a disqualifaction.I think he's going to get a rematch.
2}On summerslam there will be a triple threat match for the wwe title between Cm Punk & john cena and the big show.
3}On the royal rumble PPV on 2013 the rock will face Cm Punk.
4}the rock will win the title at the royal rumble and retain it in the elimination chamber.
5}john cena will win the royal rumble and will face the rock in a rematch at wrestle mania 29 for the wwe championship.
Embrace The Hate
New Member
I am hoping that he is indeed a heel. And, who knows, he might be Champ for a while, even as a heel. Last I saw on WZ, WWE had plans to keep the belt on Punk until he hit the 300-day mark. Here's hoping I'm right on both accounts.
Plus, it sets up the Punk/Rock feud. Rock is obviously going to be a face, and Punk can play up his disgust for Rock headlining Mania by being a heel.
(Hey, a Punk mark can dream, at least!)
Plus, it sets up the Punk/Rock feud. Rock is obviously going to be a face, and Punk can play up his disgust for Rock headlining Mania by being a heel.
(Hey, a Punk mark can dream, at least!)
I'm against him turning heel. He is great as a heel but also as a face. He is an all round superstar but in my opinion he needs to be face. There are many top quality heels in the WWE whereas face's are rare.
Turning him just prevents other heels from getting their chance. Anyway I won't be surprised if fans start cheering for him within a few months.
Turning him just prevents other heels from getting their chance. Anyway I won't be surprised if fans start cheering for him within a few months.
wrestlehead
wrestling fanatic
I LOVED what he did at the end of RAW! I think everyone is getting a bit premature with the "punk heel turn" posts and such however. Has anyone actually thought that this may not be a heel turn?
The Rock comes in and out of the WWE at his own will, and is suddenly gifted a championship match? Punk has been the "attitude era" persona of the WWE since before survivor series last year and the fans have loved him for that. IMO HATE what the Rock does. I loved him in the attitude era, but hate that he just comes in, gets everyone's hopes up, leaves and gets a championship match.
Cm Punk "stood up to him" tonight IMO on behalf of all the fans, fans who are too stubborn to realise that Cm Punk is the good guy in all of this. The Rock has lost it for me, he lost it during the Cena feud and unless he comes back as a full time superstar, I don't think "it" can be regained.
The Rock comes in and out of the WWE at his own will, and is suddenly gifted a championship match? Punk has been the "attitude era" persona of the WWE since before survivor series last year and the fans have loved him for that. IMO HATE what the Rock does. I loved him in the attitude era, but hate that he just comes in, gets everyone's hopes up, leaves and gets a championship match.
Cm Punk "stood up to him" tonight IMO on behalf of all the fans, fans who are too stubborn to realise that Cm Punk is the good guy in all of this. The Rock has lost it for me, he lost it during the Cena feud and unless he comes back as a full time superstar, I don't think "it" can be regained.
New Hot Fed
Championship Contender
If Punk has indeed become a heel then I think it's the WWE admiting failure in turning Punk into the Austin-type badass babyface phenom that many felt the industry needed to have. And I put the blame entirely on Vince's feet because Punk could have never become "the" guy as long as Cena was there, because Cena is the brand, the face of the company. The only way it could have been avoided would have been to turn Cena heel and Vince will never do that. Wich means that Punk as this mega face progect was screwed from the get go.
And sure Punk could work as a heel and even become the WWE's top heel. But when he is gonna face Cena get ready for Cena getting booed and we are back to square one.
And sure Punk could work as a heel and even become the WWE's top heel. But when he is gonna face Cena get ready for Cena getting booed and we are back to square one.
shooter_mcgavin
Mid-Card Championship Winner
Or maybe the WWE realizes there isn't a strong enough person to be the #1 Heel of the Company except for CM Punk right now. Punk has been great as a face, he sells merchandise, usually gets the 2nd biggest pop of each show, and has been good enough for the WWE to give him the title for almost 8 months.
As for what will happen after, I am sure we are going to see Cena vs. Punk at Summer Slam. I just hope this ends up with Punk retaining the title and will hold the title warm for The Rock at Royal Rumble. Rock wins, Cena wins the Rumble then we have Rock vs. Cena at WM29 for the WWE Title.
Punk holding the WWE Title for 14 months as both a heel and a face would be epic. I really hope WWE does not screw this up and, of course, this opens the possibility of Punk working with Triple H or Austin at WM29.
I like where this is going I just hope WWE doesn't give in to Punk dropping the title to Cena. Punk as a #1 heel could do wonders for the WWE Title in the upcoming months. Plus Punk needs to look strong since he needs to carry the banner as the #1 Heel the same way Triple H or Orton has done before.
Hmmmmm not convinced it was a heel turn. I remember John Cena watching from the outside as Miz and Truth beat on Rock, he did nothing to aid him. Rock got the upper hand and Cena climbed in the ring and gave him the AA.....just because Punk beat on Rock doesnt make him a heel. Its quite naive for people to think this!!!
They are obviously planting the seeds for a Rock vs Punk fued. Punk is protecting his own interests and that is the WWE Title.
Great segment but nothing to see here.
They are obviously planting the seeds for a Rock vs Punk fued. Punk is protecting his own interests and that is the WWE Title.
Great segment but nothing to see here.
I loved it, this is how Punk needs to be anyway. WWE kind of screwed his character up by turning him face and ignored what he was before.
Last year he went from: "You fans are just as big a part of me leaving as everything else, you buy the merchandises my face was not on the cover and at 5 in the morning you tried to shove my face for an autograph to sell it on e-bay just because you're too lazy to get a real job" to "I care too much, I'm the voice of the voiceless!!!" in just weeks. Then he goes against everything he said in the pipebomb promo one by one. The whole company slowly went back to the status quo he hated so much, The Rock who he was sick of was still in the main event, John Cena was the main event all the time again, he was getting overlooked despite being champion but he was still all smiley and happy about it. Hell he couldn't even remove Johnny Ace from power showed how low he had gone.
Now with his heel turn hopefully everything makes sense again, being the big summer angle as it seems will certainly make him the main event again which was what he really needed during his title reign. I don't see how WWE will make the fans boo him though, The Rock isn't going to be there for him to beat up even more 1 attack just isn't enough, John Cena everyone cheers for who he is up against, and I don't see a popular enough face that will make the fans boo him like Jeff Hardy back in the days. The only way I see is to align him with Paul Heyman but I hope he doesn't get involved with Triple H again and risk losing his momentum.
Last year he went from: "You fans are just as big a part of me leaving as everything else, you buy the merchandises my face was not on the cover and at 5 in the morning you tried to shove my face for an autograph to sell it on e-bay just because you're too lazy to get a real job" to "I care too much, I'm the voice of the voiceless!!!" in just weeks. Then he goes against everything he said in the pipebomb promo one by one. The whole company slowly went back to the status quo he hated so much, The Rock who he was sick of was still in the main event, John Cena was the main event all the time again, he was getting overlooked despite being champion but he was still all smiley and happy about it. Hell he couldn't even remove Johnny Ace from power showed how low he had gone.
Now with his heel turn hopefully everything makes sense again, being the big summer angle as it seems will certainly make him the main event again which was what he really needed during his title reign. I don't see how WWE will make the fans boo him though, The Rock isn't going to be there for him to beat up even more 1 attack just isn't enough, John Cena everyone cheers for who he is up against, and I don't see a popular enough face that will make the fans boo him like Jeff Hardy back in the days. The only way I see is to align him with Paul Heyman but I hope he doesn't get involved with Triple H again and risk losing his momentum.
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The United Kingdom Champion
well well well...who saw that coming? In my opinion, Punk didnt turn heel, i think his going back to an anti-hero like someone posted before. Him turning heel right now dosent make sense because they've just released a DVD for him, hes being booked as a strong strong champion, taking on all comers, and then too just completly turn the switch in one night over what exactly is ridiculous. Yes punks best work has been as a heel, but i dont think, if they are going to turn him heel, its the right time. You cant have a strong face champion just quickly switch to a cowardly heel for no real reason. He didnt even lose, he retained, maybe there building for Rock Vs Punk for RR but if punk is going into the match as a heel, i wont be as interested. I hope this si punk just going back to how he kinda was last summer. A anti-hero. The adults cheer him, and some kids boo him but others will cheer him aswell. Hes never been the superman Cena is, but i hope this aint a ful heel turn, just a tweener like he used to be.
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It's an interesting turn of events and a great hook for next week's Raw. After all, people are going to want to know why Punk did what he did and where he goes from here. While I was disappointed that we didn't get the epic main event from Cena & Punk that I was hoping for, this looks like it could be a big leap forward for Punk. I don't think there'll be any jabs at him being a "mid-card champion" after last night.
Based on Big Show's interference, I'm expecting that this will be a threeway feud for the title. With Show involved, it gives Cena a way out for not beating Punk for the title, though I'd love to see Punk get a pinfall win over Cena in a clean manner like we got last year. I look for Punk to take on Rock at the Royal Rumble, where Rock will probably win unfortunately, but it's looking more and more likely that Punk's reign will last more than a year. I'm not crazy about the idea of Punk dropping the title to Rock, if that's the overall plan, but Punk will have had one of the longest runs in WWE history by that time and will definitely have established himself. Who knows? Maybe WWE will throw a swerve and actually have Punk retain. I personally doubt it because I can't help but feel that WWE is going for Cena vs. Rock II at WM for the WWE Championship. I could see them making it a triple threat match, however, as a means of adding an unknown element. A straight up one on one match between Cena & Rock for the title ends with Cena winning the title, that's just all there is to it.
Based on Big Show's interference, I'm expecting that this will be a threeway feud for the title. With Show involved, it gives Cena a way out for not beating Punk for the title, though I'd love to see Punk get a pinfall win over Cena in a clean manner like we got last year. I look for Punk to take on Rock at the Royal Rumble, where Rock will probably win unfortunately, but it's looking more and more likely that Punk's reign will last more than a year. I'm not crazy about the idea of Punk dropping the title to Rock, if that's the overall plan, but Punk will have had one of the longest runs in WWE history by that time and will definitely have established himself. Who knows? Maybe WWE will throw a swerve and actually have Punk retain. I personally doubt it because I can't help but feel that WWE is going for Cena vs. Rock II at WM for the WWE Championship. I could see them making it a triple threat match, however, as a means of adding an unknown element. A straight up one on one match between Cena & Rock for the title ends with Cena winning the title, that's just all there is to it.
Trust me it was a heel turn. The moment he got over his conflict and went for the pin was the heel turn. It was furthered by how he was about to leave Cena alone for the Big Show (as a face Punk previously would of been on the attack no matter how badly he was about to get his ass kicked). Then he returned to the ring and attacked The Rock.
I don't like it but that is a heel turn. There is an obvious easy story to go along with it, Blame Rocky for overshadowing him. Cena will come out and be like "you didn't save me". Big Show will come out and attack Cena. Cena will get the upper hand only to have Punk cheap shot Cena. Thus the triple threat at Summerslam is made official.
That's how i assume it will go down.
This was the best possible thing they could have done, as it not only gives them a legitimate top heel and utilizes Punk's best traits, but it sets up any number of storylines going forward.
As most have said, the wheels started coming off of Punk's character once he no longer had any reason to have a chip on his shoulder. Over the past year, he's been given everything: the title and a legend-caliber run with it, the video game cover, more merch, and he's been granted press appearances like he's never had before, making him one of the faces of the company. And while that's all well-deserved for Phil Brooks, it doesn't do much for CM Punk. It stagnates him. Fans complain about the lack of "pipebombs," but given all he's achieved over the last year, it's understandable; he had nothing to say. That isn't to say Punk's reign has been for naught, because that isn't true. It's been successful and it's been entertaining. But it hasn't been the best run in the world.
As a heel, Punk can thrive again as a character, title or not. There hasn't been a greater statement made by a heel than the one made by Punk in years. Walking off of Raw with the title in hand and John Cena and The Rock left laying is a massive statement, and it propels Punk back to where he was around this time last year. He's been given a lot, but he also has lots of ammunition to be disgruntled about: he never main events pay-per-views, The Rock's status within the company, and so on.
It'll be interesting to see where this goes, but there's no doubt it's for the best.
As most have said, the wheels started coming off of Punk's character once he no longer had any reason to have a chip on his shoulder. Over the past year, he's been given everything: the title and a legend-caliber run with it, the video game cover, more merch, and he's been granted press appearances like he's never had before, making him one of the faces of the company. And while that's all well-deserved for Phil Brooks, it doesn't do much for CM Punk. It stagnates him. Fans complain about the lack of "pipebombs," but given all he's achieved over the last year, it's understandable; he had nothing to say. That isn't to say Punk's reign has been for naught, because that isn't true. It's been successful and it's been entertaining. But it hasn't been the best run in the world.
As a heel, Punk can thrive again as a character, title or not. There hasn't been a greater statement made by a heel than the one made by Punk in years. Walking off of Raw with the title in hand and John Cena and The Rock left laying is a massive statement, and it propels Punk back to where he was around this time last year. He's been given a lot, but he also has lots of ammunition to be disgruntled about: he never main events pay-per-views, The Rock's status within the company, and so on.
It'll be interesting to see where this goes, but there's no doubt it's for the best.
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