Match 1: Rob Van Dam and Sabu vs. The Holly Cousins
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klunderbunker
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While I think the Hollies are the better team, RVD is a bigger star than both of them put together and neither Holly would stand a chance of pinning either of their opponents. RVD and Sabu win, but they won'd last long.
How do you vote? I'm going by who's the shittiest/best. If I'm wrong just say.
Hardcore Holly was over because of his comedy cousin. Says it all really. Crash served his purpose. But he was still a short term wrestler. Hardcore Holly (female porn star name imo) has had the audacity to hang around for a decade too long. Hardcore Holly's best WWE moment probably came when he sliced his back open in a match with RVD as well. Other than that it's all crash for that team.
Hardcore Holly was over because of his comedy cousin. Says it all really. Crash served his purpose. But he was still a short term wrestler. Hardcore Holly (female porn star name imo) has had the audacity to hang around for a decade too long. Hardcore Holly's best WWE moment probably came when he sliced his back open in a match with RVD as well. Other than that it's all crash for that team.
RVD and Sabu should take this one.The Hollys were jokes-nothing more.Despite the fact the hardcore title was ace,I hated Crash Holly(R.I.P).Hardcore is just a old sack of crap that should really just retire.
On the other hand we have 2 major cult icons-Sabu and RVD.2 amazing wrestlers
(when not messing up) and put on a hell of a show most of the time.
Winners in 7.00 : RVD and Sabu.
On the other hand we have 2 major cult icons-Sabu and RVD.2 amazing wrestlers
(when not messing up) and put on a hell of a show most of the time.
Winners in 7.00 : RVD and Sabu.
Papa Shango
Frontman of the WZ Band!!
If you're taking into account that the match is in WWE, with WWE rules, then the Holly cousins win this match. Especially considering we're assuming this match take place in 2000. Rob Van Dam and Sabu were insanely popular in ECW, but at that point, RVD was a complete spot monkey. Nothing he did happened without the assistance of a weapon or a platform to jump off of. The Hollys would completely ground RVD and Sabu within the confines of a WWE ring.
Holly Cousins win.
Holly Cousins win.
Hyorinmaru
Sit Upon The Frozen Heavens
I see the Hollys picking up t he win due to the fact that's it WWE rules not ECW. Without weapons in 200 RVD and Sabu weren't that good.
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Sit Upon The Frozen Heavens
Still in their prime RVD and Sabu weren't that good without weapons.
.........................WHAT?RVD and Sabu are 2 of the greatest junior heavyweights of all time.And your saying a team that had a old hack and a complete waste of space is better than them?Yeah........To take a leaf from Pheonix Wright-
THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!
THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!
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The Hollys
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RVD and SABU
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I stand by my statement in their prime RVD and Sabu weren't all that good without weapons. Dj this is under WWE rules which doesn't usually allow the use of weapons. In their prime in ECW they couldn't put on a good match with out them. If these 2 teams were to meet in the WWE in their Prime I don't see RVD and Sabu winning.
Dead Kennedy
Forever Holly
As a unit, I think Bob and Crash worked better. Without Extreme Rules, Sabu isn't as good as he can be. Although I guess the same could be said for Hardcore Holly...not to mention Crash. Even without no-DQ rules, the Hollys were still one of the best teams of the WWF Attitude Era.
In a match with WWE rules, I believe the Hollys would come out on top. This is not your lonely Holly mark speaking, it's the truth. In fact, I'd love to have seen this match...I like these kind of threads...keep it up!
In a match with WWE rules, I believe the Hollys would come out on top. This is not your lonely Holly mark speaking, it's the truth. In fact, I'd love to have seen this match...I like these kind of threads...keep it up!
Papa Shango
Frontman of the WZ Band!!
NERD.
Sabu in particular was completely dependent on weapons.
And ECW and the WWF Hardcore Division were completely different. The Hollys wrestled hardcore because the roster was so stacked they didn't always fit in the other title pictures. RVD and Sabu wrestled hardcore because they couldn't do anything else.
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This is a match with Sabu and no weapons.
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Horrible
justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
Didn't the Hollys used to beat the shit out of each other during their matches?, yeah great teamwork, RVD/Sabu would walk out of this with the win, the Hollys were shit, RVD/Sabu, even with rules, are a better team, not to mention they have Bill Alfonso in their corner, with that annoying ass whistle, you know that would piss Hardcore Holly off, which could easily lead to enough of a distraction for RVD/Sabu to capitalize on and get the win
Skullz Crack'Em
Lord of the Skulls
The Hollys were nothing special, RVD and Sabu should take this match with ease. The ECW Originals work best under extreme rules, but The Holly's were no different, so the WWE rules don't make a difference either way.
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
A Post Is Worth A Thousand Words
Holly Cousins. RVD was entertaining, but I've never seen the reason behind Sabu having as much of a fanbase as he has. Granted, Crash and Hardcore aren't anything too special, and if this was a fourway, RVD would easily win, but Crash/Hardcore just seem to click better to me as a tag team than RVD/Sabu.
Now, granted, I haven't had too, too much exposure to either team. I took a hiatus from watching wrestling during the time Crash was there, and I never followed ECW. But I've done my share of research and I have to say, between the two teams, I'd rather have Crash/Hardcore on a roster strictly as a tag team than RVD/Sabu strictly as a tag team, as I feel Sabu weighs them down and RVD just balances it out but shouldn't be a tag team wrestler.
Maybe its just the fact that they LOOK like they gel together, and I'm a fan of tag teams wearing similar attire and such...haha...but I'm gonna say that the Hollys edge out the win here for me (and I don't see them going too much farther in the tournament).
Now, granted, I haven't had too, too much exposure to either team. I took a hiatus from watching wrestling during the time Crash was there, and I never followed ECW. But I've done my share of research and I have to say, between the two teams, I'd rather have Crash/Hardcore on a roster strictly as a tag team than RVD/Sabu strictly as a tag team, as I feel Sabu weighs them down and RVD just balances it out but shouldn't be a tag team wrestler.
Maybe its just the fact that they LOOK like they gel together, and I'm a fan of tag teams wearing similar attire and such...haha...but I'm gonna say that the Hollys edge out the win here for me (and I don't see them going too much farther in the tournament).
RVD and Sabu. I wasn't a fan of the Hollys as I didn't find them to be too talented in the ring. RVD and Sabu may have been ECW Originals, but they still won a fair few matches under WWE rules, especially Rob Van Dam. RVD and Sabu are the more memorable tag team. In my opinion, RVD and Sabu worked better as a tag team than the Holly's so I'm voting for them.
I'm going with the Holly cousins,they were basically jokers, but they meshed well together and in my opinion they were a very memorable tag team. They each played their character really great. Crash with his big excited smile/confident smirk, and the scale of course,Bob always looking annoyed. Could they win in a match against RVD and Sabu?...yah Crash would clock one of them over the head(probably sabu) with the scale when the ref wasn't looking..winners = Holly's
RVD and Sabu take it in what should be a waltz but what won't be. Though people could say that the Hollys were more successful commercially and in that general area, they weren't nearly enough to even be considered to go over RVD and Sabu in a tournament based on kayfabe ability.
And RVD and Sabu aren't necessarily what I'd consider a particularly good tag team anyway. Hardcore and Crash were a joke team and not a particularly memorable one at that.
And RVD and Sabu aren't necessarily what I'd consider a particularly good tag team anyway. Hardcore and Crash were a joke team and not a particularly memorable one at that.
Even though RVD has more WWE success than both combined? And Sabu did more in his year long WWE run that Hardcore did in nearly 15 years?
It shouldn't come into play. But either way. Without weapons RVD has more of an arsenal that The Hollys. Sabu can still jump off stuff.
Without weapons would people even remember Crash Holly? The team was popular. But Crash was more popular as a weapon heavy singles wrestler.
As a team what did The Hollys do? As little as RVD & Sabu.
RVD spent most of his WWE career wrestling without weapons. Good or not. He's got plenty of spot heavy moves to do without the aid of a chair.
There's a reason Jim Ross points how how great Hardcore's dropkick is, it's because it's the only move he can do.
If they were any good then wouldn't WWE have found something for them to do in the more important divisions, like they did with RVD & Sabu?
I don't think the quality of the match really comes into it. I haven't watched the match, but I don't doubt taht it is horrible. But sometimes horrible is better than boring or dull. Hardcore Holly is the master of that.
Do you remember the matches or the fighting between team matces?
Or do you just remember the Hardcore title run of both of them?
I didn't think weapons were allowed, but if they were wouldn't the weapon based wrestlers be better off? Sabu would no sell the scale shot, ECW style.
I really liked the holly cousins, I think this one would be pretty close actually. Sabu and Rvd will take it, Sabu isn't all that great though, the match being in the wwe is the redeeming factor for the holly cousins and the only thing I think would give them a chance.
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