Recently a man went shopping with his daughter to the local supermarket. Asda possibly, or maybe Lidl. We'll never know. After he had bought his groceries he went to purchase some cigarettes. He was refused. Why? Because the cashier said that he could be buying them for his daughter. The man said, he was buying them for himself. The cashier said that if somebody over the age of 18 was buying smokes, but had somebody with them under the age of 18, they had to assume that they were buying them for the youngster. True story. Apparently this will soon be happening everywhere. Ridiculous or not?
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This is Ridicoulas. I work in this area and I know how hard it would be. 6/10 people that buy smoke's have teenage kid's with them it is impossible to tell if they are buying them for the kid. We shouldnt be able to stop them buying the smoke's as long as they 1. Have proof of age, and 2. there is no evidence that they are buying them for the kid's. Sometime's we will get the ones that aint to bright and will ask the minor right infront of us what it was they wanted 
I just politley say sorry i can't serve you. Then spend the next 5 minutes arguing with them. If that doe's happen in Australia we will lose out on alot of the profit that come's from Smoke's becouse people will resort to buying them from servo's. it isn't fair to the people that dont buy underage "minors" smoke's that will not be able to buy smoke's if they are anywhere near Kid's.
I just politley say sorry i can't serve you. Then spend the next 5 minutes arguing with them. If that doe's happen in Australia we will lose out on alot of the profit that come's from Smoke's becouse people will resort to buying them from servo's. it isn't fair to the people that dont buy underage "minors" smoke's that will not be able to buy smoke's if they are anywhere near Kid's.klunderbunker
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I can see where they're trying to go with this, but I'm not wild on the idea. I'm not sure on the laws in England and Australia, but as far as I understand the laws, it's legal for minors to smoke, but not to buy cigs. It's ridiculous to me that an adult can't buy something for himself for the risk of him giving them to his teenager. People that age are smart. If they want cigs, then they'll be able to get them one way or another. So, based on this law, I'm assuming that if the daughter simply went outside, then the adult could buy them? That's not a law, it's a technicality.
Dark Blaze
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I can honestly see his logic in this, the problem with it, that from experience, when you have someone buying let's say alcohol for you when you're underaged, you don't normally go in with them (that'd be obvious), they give it to you at some later date or something which would make that law useless.
However, it is a nice idea to help control underage smoking or drinking...but there should be some level of common sense in the business owner, I mean, if he had walked in with a 9 year old son, would they have assumed it was for the son too? Because if it was...that'd be one sick 9 year old
However, it is a nice idea to help control underage smoking or drinking...but there should be some level of common sense in the business owner, I mean, if he had walked in with a 9 year old son, would they have assumed it was for the son too? Because if it was...that'd be one sick 9 year old
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
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Despite how I'm 100% against smoking in all its forms, as I don't see what the point of it is if it has zero positive consequences...and how I think smoking itself should be illegal in public (second-hand smoke).....I think this rule is a little stupid.
A 30 year old guy buying cigarettes with his daughter, refused because his daughter was with him and he MIGHT be buying them for his daughter....now, in America, you can buy cigarettes at 18. I've known lots of people that had just turned 18 the day before and they were already buying cigarettes for tons of kids that weren't. This I can understand...if you saw some 18 year old kid with his 17/16/etc friends, they all seemed like the same type that would be smoking, and it just feels like the situation where the other kids that weren't 18 would be using them. So maybe they made up this rule as a "generalization" kind of thing just to cover all bases so nobody says "well you didn't do it to the 30 year old guy with his 14 year old son".
Either way, though, kids that want to smoke are finding ways to get the cigarettes, so this won't help one way or the other, it'll just piss people off. After putting it into effect, the new loophole will just be to wait in the car while your friend buys them.
A 30 year old guy buying cigarettes with his daughter, refused because his daughter was with him and he MIGHT be buying them for his daughter....now, in America, you can buy cigarettes at 18. I've known lots of people that had just turned 18 the day before and they were already buying cigarettes for tons of kids that weren't. This I can understand...if you saw some 18 year old kid with his 17/16/etc friends, they all seemed like the same type that would be smoking, and it just feels like the situation where the other kids that weren't 18 would be using them. So maybe they made up this rule as a "generalization" kind of thing just to cover all bases so nobody says "well you didn't do it to the 30 year old guy with his 14 year old son".
Either way, though, kids that want to smoke are finding ways to get the cigarettes, so this won't help one way or the other, it'll just piss people off. After putting it into effect, the new loophole will just be to wait in the car while your friend buys them.
Monkey_Mania
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This is absolutely ridiculous. I don't see this sticking in any way possible. Most people bring there kids along with them when they go to the store. To not be able to purchase what you want is a little extreme. Especially if it is there own child. It would also be really funny if the girl was like 4 years old or something. "Yeah I am buying cigarettes for my 4 year old daughter, I hope she gets addicted and dies at an early age."
It doesnt make any sense. Like NoFate said. If it was a more suspicious situation, then yes by all means. But a guy with his daughter with him in a store wanting to purchase cigarettes and not being able to is ridiculous.
It doesnt make any sense. Like NoFate said. If it was a more suspicious situation, then yes by all means. But a guy with his daughter with him in a store wanting to purchase cigarettes and not being able to is ridiculous.
That is recockulous. would they sell them to them if they had a 5 year old with them? I remember when I was a youngster and had to get alcohol across the provincial border. I had a friend who was older than me, so he was able to buy alcohol for the both of us. Id just tell him ahead of the time, then act like I wasn't getting any when I went in. He went in, bought the beer, then we left, and I paid him back. They never questioned that. I don't smoke, but i assume the situation would be very similar. You think the teen would stay out of the way when daddy was buying the m the smokes, not huddled up right beside him.
