Like Tropicana, I got the JUICE??

[Mighty NorCal]

Throughout the annuals of time, who do you guys think were the biggest juicers?? How prevalent do you think things like that were before the wellness policy days??

More importantly, do you think the major guys were??? IE Randy Savage, Warrior, LOD, and most importantly, the one many may not dare to say....Hulk Hogan???

Its my opinion that...The vast majority were. Pretty much all of them. You can see huge physics, and all the symptoms. So many of them seemed to be bloated/have the backne, strong indicators of use. Dont forget the freakish, cartoonish physiques such as the warlord, and British Bulldog. And address what you think of Hulk's physique??, and if the unthinkable happened, and HE of all people was on it?? It would pretty much crush my entire childhood that my hero, who talked about prayers and vitamins, was roiding up...but i mean SHIT look at the guy, especially circa 1991, 1990. I dont ever want to belive it. And would probably never admit it....but he was inhumanly built.

 

[Richard]

Before the wellness policy was introduced I'm talking about 80's, I think that steroid use was very prevalent, do I dare even say.....acceptable?

Yes, I think they would have used it. We all hear stories about Vince loving the big guys and come on think about it, if there was no wellness policy and nothing stopping them from becoming bigger and getting more favoured by Vince, he would be more likely to push you because he would like what you have become, big.

If Hulk Hogan was found out to be using it, he would be ruined, character wise. I just done a google image search on him. I can't be 100% certain, but I would like to think he never used them, I'll leave Hulk at that.

Warrior, wouldn't suprise me if he did, honestly.

But with the others like Savage, Hogan, I would like to think they didn't but I'm not 100%sure.

 

[agentmichaelscarn]

As much as it pains me to admit it since I was a hulkamaniac growing up but Hogan was obviously juicing at some point and anybody that doesnt think that is really being naive. All you have to do is look at a picture of him from around in the 80s to the first couple years of the 90s then look at him in the mid 90s when he was in WCW before the NWO days. There is a HUGE difference, I mean he was still pretty big because he is naturally a big guy but he was nowhere close to what he was like in the 80s. And I dont think its a coincidence that this weight loss happened during the whole steroid scandal. As far as the question goes its really hard to say who was the biggest juicer I think its safe to say atleast 75% of the WWF roster in the 80s were juicers.

 

[Tim]

Well looking back now, it seems like a lot of wrestlers were juicing back then. Guys like Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior etc. would have been juicing since there was really no one to stop them back then. But why was the wellness policy evident back then? Basically the answer is that nobody cared if you used steroids bck in the day, which is completely different to now. If a wellness policy was in place then, over half the roster would have been fired.

You compare some of the wrestlers then to some of them now, you can see a huge difference. And of course Hulk Hogan would have done it, it would have made him seem even more godlike. Most of the roster would've done it because it would make them appear stronger, and it would help them in the business.

 

[Slyfox696]

Sorry, Norcal, but Hogan has already admitted to using steroids. I think that came out during the McMahon trials of the early 90s.

If you read Bret Hart's book, basically everyone was on steroids. Even Hart himself used steroids for a period of time. While one of the major effects of the steroids is to make you look huge, I do think that a lot of times, they were also used just to keep the body going. 20 years ago, wrestling was much harder than it is today, working 350 days a year, always on the road, driving to your destinations, sleeping for 4 hours in a hotel, and pursuing a career that was nothing but throwing your body down on a hard mat for 15 minutes. Couple that with the fact so many of them were wild night life guys, going out, getting hammered, popping pills, etc., it was near a necessity for them to be on steroids, just to keep their body going all the time.

Anyways, as for who? Hogan, Hart, Dynamite Kid, Davey Boy Smith, Shawn Michaels, the Undertaker, Randy Savage, Ted DiBiase, Jake Roberts, Dino Bravo, Warlord, Ultimate Warrior....well here, let's just put it like this:

If they wrestled in the WWF, they were on steroids at one point in there life. And if they were in Mid-Atlantic/WCW, they probably were on steroids at one point in there life.

 

[My$terio_Fan]

Yeah back in the 80's and 90's steriods were alot more common and their wasn't alot of restrictions or consequences if you were caught on them. I don't even think that their was a wellness plan that's how much they cared if you were on steriods. And like Sly said basically everyone was on steriods regardless if they looked like they were on them. Steriods were just as common as vitamins or anything is was just normal that you take steriods.

 

[Afro-Ameri-Spawn]

To answer this, I will need to begin by telling a story.

Back in 1999, a very epic football movie came out by the name of Any Given Sunday. Now while many of you have seen the end result of the big screen production, there are few who know of a young character actor by the name of LL Cool J who engrossed himself so much into the the finely tuned art of method acting that he became running back Jullian Washington in mind, body, and soul. He did deep thrust, wind sprints, and any other exercise that you would see an NFL running back doing during practice to be the best that he could be. LL inspired many of his costars and caught the eye of a young up and coming actor who beat him out for the lead role in the movie, Jamie Foxx. One day, Jamie approached LL as he was suiting up and running laps and asked him what he was doing. Ll responded that he was practicing for the game that they had against the Knights. And that is when Jamie Foxx said that truest words ever uttered from one actor to another when he said "Motherfucker, you do know that this is just a movie right?".

And that is so true when it comes to sports entertainment. You see, the wellness policy is the worst thing to come into wrestling since Braun The Leprechaun. People stress that sports need testing to keep the purity of the game intact. And that is all fine and good. But motherfucker, do you realize that pro wrestling is NOT a sport? We don't stress the "sports" part of sports entertainment, we stress the ENTERTAINMENT part. And it's such a travesty. It's such a joke. It's nothing more than the government thinking they know what is right, when they are once again dead wrong. I mean if you want to convict Barry Bonds, then go ahead. If you want to club Jose Canseco like a baby seal, then feel free too. If you want to string Raphael Palmero's lying ass up by his balls, then I will bring the fishing line for ya. But stick to sports with this. Not entertainment.

Hell, you have wrestlers pulling up to the bathroom and having people watch them pee like it was a fetish film and then dipping strips in it in a lab. Meanwhile, you have a bunch jacked up ass bodybuilders laughing and pointing at the notion that pro wrestlers even have to endure this embarrassment. But don't they share pretty much the same profession in common? Wrestlers and body builders both get paid for their technique and execution while posing. Let's even try to kid ourselves by saying that wrestling is not posing while flexing your muscles and then executing like it took a shitload of effort to pull it off. And who are the judges? The audience. So it's the same in both. Size matters. And don't tell me it doesn't. Do you really think Paul Wight would have gotten the push he got is he were 5'10"? Nope.

The wellness policy supposedly was inacted because of all of the wrestlers who died too young as steroids was out of control? Oh really? So the wellness policy would have saved the lives of Chris Candido and Owen Hart? Would the wellness policy have stopped the accidents that shortened the careers of Darren Drozdov, Steve Austin, and Ricky Steamboat? Nope to all. Thing is accidents happen. Life happens. But don't blame steroids for any and everything that you can't find a natural explanation to because you have a whole generation of former steroid abusing football, baseball, and basketball players who still are alive. Shit, you never see a new story on some body builder who keeled over in their home from heart failure. But when it happens in wrestling, steroids gets the blame.

And to be honest, it's unfair. Steroids should actually have a place in wrestling, because they whole basis of wrestling is having "the look". And I could care less if every wrestler from the 80's and 90's juiced, because it made it that much more enjoyable to watch. Hell, I wish they would stop this whole wellness policy foolishness because there are quite a few guys who could use the juicy. Not the name any names, but you can tell guys who changed their ways, they are the ones who look like the work at Blockbuster in their spare time. And hey, you don't have to hear their name twice to figure out who these people are.

 

[Deus1138]

I love how Scott Steiner still denies being on roids. Right...we all believe you Scott! I mean, seriously. Don't insult our intelligence. Look at Steiner in the early 90's, then compare that to him in the mid 90's to now. I mean, you don't DOUBLE your muscle mass in a year or two!