Legacy of the Dudley Boyz

[Shocky]

So now that the Dudley Boyz have won the ECW, WWE, the WWE owned WCW, and now the NWA tag team titles, what is there legacy and impact on the history of the tag team division.

They have now done something that the Road Warriors didn't even do, and that's win 4 companies titles. The Warriors got the NWA, AWA, and WWE tag team titles.

So are the Dudleyz the greatest tag team of all time, or are they just a good team in a time where the art of tag wrestling isnt' what it used to be?

 

[A.J.]

The Dudley's were an ok team nothing great. i manily remember the Dudley's for their antics in ECW and of course Tables!! You can't really say they captured the WCW tag team belts as it was WWE owned so for me it takes away some from them being called former WCW tag champs.

The Road Warriors were a special team and nothing should be taken away from them. The Dudley's were a good team and put on some damn well matches just they came along when there so few teams in WWE. The main teams at the time were Hardys, Edge and Christian and you can throw in APA but they were never really a title picture team.

Thier a joke in TNA as they are nothig of their former selves. All i can say was a good team not a great team that just happened to be in the rightyears of wrestling for tag teams.

 

[X]

Dudleys will always be remembered for their contributions to tag team wrestling and more imporantly for incorporating the table into WWE. Sure, tables had been used before that in hardcore matches, but before they came in with their table match against the Hardys, you rarely ever saw a table break, now its like a prerequisite for big shows. The Dudley Boys were never in WCW? Damn I thought they were, that does detract from it quite a bit that they won it in WWE's Invasion angle. But they are one of the few teams to ever accomplish as much as they did, and I was excited as hell when they won at Lockdown, because they really deserve it. The NWA titles all have such prestige, they really deserved it.

But that doesn't make them the best tag team ever, by far. IMO that will always be the New Age Outlaws, they may not have been the most skilled wrestlers, but nobody dominated the WWF tag scene more then they did in their heyday.

 

[Shocky]

My opinion on the Dudleyz, a very dangerous tag team, but they are in the right place at the right time. Right now we are in a funk concerning tag teams. I think they would have done well in the 80's, but I don't think they woul dhave had as many title reigns as they do now.

My personel best team, Demolition. Ax and Smash weren't the best wrestlers, but they had a crazy long title reign at a time when the tag team division was stacked. I think the Dudleyz probably had more heat then Demolition, but I don't think they could have dominated like Demolition.

 

[CenaFan93]

Team 3D can only be described in one word: dangerous! Now that they have become the new NWA World Tag Team Champions, they are the most decorated team in TNA and wrestling as a whole. You may say the Road Warriors, The Four Horsemen, nWo, and all of them are more decorated than Team 3D. If you think that, than go on obsessedwithwrestling.com and see how many championships that they have one over the years. The Dudley's are and from now on should be known as THE BEST tag team EVER!!

Do you guys remember a stable years ago in TNA called the Kings of Wrestling? I believe it consisted of "The King of the Mountain" Jeff Jarrett, Scott Hall, and "Big Sexy" Kevin Nash. You know what? They have proven to be shit to Team 3D. Team 3D is the best team in the history of this business, and their ain't nobody that is gonna tell me otherwise!

Devon, get the tables!

 

[A.J.]

Xfear i agree with you about the Tables concept as the Dudleys make that impact on wrestling as a whole, it just that when you look at all the other teams that have been around as Shocky was saying about the 80's i just think it was right timing for them.

The Outlaws dominated as they did in the late 90's in the WWE but i think they are more remembered for the mic skills of Road Dogg before each match. As out of the big three in late 90's ealy 2000 Edge and Christan were the better tag team. The Dudleys do deserve credit for what they have done, but it for me doesnt compare to teams before them. You may be a 50 time World champion still means you lost it 50 times haha

 

[EP Punk]

You mean to tell me the Dudleys, Team 3D, whatever, are better than LOD, Demolition, The Hart Foundation?!?!?!? Seriously, dude, you're given Strait Edge a bad name with opinions like that. Demolition and LOD would have straight up killed them, and the Harts had more finesse, skill and speed that Those two ever had..not to mention, as someone else said, they are fucking clownshoes now. The only reason they have held all four titles was because A. ECW didn't have a lot of good teams outside of the Pitbulls and The Impact Players. B. WWE basically gave them the titles to spite ECW. C. WCW was technically WCWWWE by that point, so really, can anyone who held the titles in that era be called WCW Champions? and D. TNA put the titles on them because of their name value, and to say hey Vince, screw you!!! Yeah they may be the most decorated team in history, but some of those wins are tainted for me. Especially the NWA Tag Title reign. If they would have won them when the NWA meant something, that would be different. Yeah, they have a good legacy, nit great, that belongs to teams like the LOD and The Hart Foundation

 

[X]

Straight edge people give themselves a bad name by criticizing everyone and thing that doesn't agree with them and for knocking something they've never tried. Not to mention they consider themselves better then everyone else because of their lifestyle choice. Your sig proves my point FinalRWFChamp. God damn I hate straight edge people, fuckin' wankers.

But hey thats the guys opinion isn't it? Many people consider the Dudleyz a better team then LOD, Demolition or the Hart Foundation, doesn't mean its true. Nobody can really determine who was the best. My opinion is that is the New Age Outlaws, but thats probably only because I was such a huge fan of theirs and for the fact that they dominated the scene for three years like no tag team before them, winning it more times in their short time together then any other team.

On a side note, why does everyone love Demolition so much? Yeah, they were skilled in the ring and they're gimmick was awesome, but overall I don't see what the big deal about them was. They seemed about as on par as the other teams of their era, no better or worse to me then teams like Strike Force, Killer Bees, Can-Am Connection etc.

LOD however were f'n badass and always will be, they ruled the tag team scene from the early eighties to the mid nineties, plus they had the best entrance ever: OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHAT A RUUSSSHHHH!

Too bad WWF decided to kill thier career by having Hawk pretend to commit suicide off the titan tron on Raw back in either 98/99, not sure. God that was so damn funny.

 

[Rabbid Wolverine]

straightedge234, i cant believe u have that crock of an image of chris benoit tapping out to john cena....thats so bullshit... u must be like 15 years old...if they were gonna have chris beoit lose to him, it should have been with the FU..

neways on to the dudleyz, i dont really see them as a great tag team in TNA, they needed to put over LAX, which they did, but bubba kept getting mad about it, they should have put over most of the tna tag teams before they won the titles. bubba needs to get in shape, cuz devon looks more in shape.
but they have contributed to the tag team division no doubt.

 

[Shadowmancer]

I feel that the Legacy of the Dudleyz/Dudleys/Team 3-D is just cemented by this title victory, while they may not be the best inring, but they are a 20 time Tag team champs, 21 if you include HUSTLE, but as to what FinalRWFChamp said the NWA tag team titles mean something now because of the work TNA has done with the tag teams, If they really wanted to "Spite" WWE they would have put VKM as tag title champs but no they didn't. Name value so do a lot of the people in TNA, the entire point as a pro Wrestler is to promote your name value, if you do that you get pushed more.

 

[Omais]

Dudley boys were cool while they lasted.Which was in WWF or E I cant remember.They were at there best and more popular there.Spike Dvon Bubba they killed together but when they seperated on WWE/F It was over.The phrase"Get the table(s)" was really exciting to listen to.Still is but not when they were at their best.Duddley boys are still good just most of the people dont even know where they are anymore.TNA look here.Duddley boys made a huge impace here and they sure will go to the top soon.

 

[RVDgurl]

The Dudley's are one of the best tag teams in history. Are they the most skilled wrestlers in the ring? Probably not, but they have accomplished everything there is to accomplish in the world of wrestling over the past 12years. They certainly didn't attain what they have by kissing anyone's ass- they have worked for everything they've accomplished. They have been very innovative with what they do in the ring, especially during their career in ECW. They still cut some of the best shoots in the business today and I sincerely believe that Bubba Ray has more charisma in his big toe than many of the wrestler out there combined.

 

[Big Fella]

I don't care how many pre-determined reigns a tag team has.

When a company puts their main title on a singles wrestler, they have the ball to run with it.

The tag titles don't have the same prestige.

What I have to look at when I look at tag teams is drawing power. LOD headlined major shows, the Dudley Boys never did. LOD drew serious dollars, the Dudley's never did.

Despite the amount of title reigns, despite the number of companies they've done well in, the Dudley's are not in the same class as LOD.

 

[Robby2Slobby]

I seem to remember the Dudley Boys headlining the original ECW One Night Stand which was probably a bigger show in terms of buys than any show LOD ever headlined.

 

[CenaFan93]

Big Fella, you're right that Team 3D are not in the same class as Legion of Doom. Team 3D is a step higher!

 

[BC 21]

Thank God they finally got the NWA titles. I personally was tired of seeing them chase the belts.

 

[X]

I don't care how many pre-determined reigns a tag team has.

When a company puts their main title on a singles wrestler, they have the ball to run with it.

The tag titles don't have the same prestige.

What I have to look at when I look at tag teams is drawing power. LOD headlined major shows, the Dudley Boys never did. LOD drew serious dollars, the Dudley's never did.

Despite the amount of title reigns, despite the number of companies they've done well in, the Dudley's are not in the same class as LOD.

You're actually pretty damn wrong there. LOD never once main evented a WWF/E PPV in their career. Right off the top of my head I can already think of three PPV's the Dudley Boys main evented and they were three of the best selling PPV's in the past ten years: Invasion in 2001 with the 10 man tag team main event, Survivor Series 2001 with the Alliance vs. WWF last battle, and ECW One Night Stand 2005 with their tag match against the Sandman and Dreamer. LOD on the other hand...have never main evented...anything really. Now that I think about it, I can't even remember a single NWA/WCW or even AWA PPV/Monthly Show that they main evented. And in terms of drawing power? Dudleys were much, much bigger and sold waaaaaaay more merchandise then the LOD ever did. I honestly can't think of one show that drew people because of LOD, but I can think of atleast a dozen from WWE and ECW.

I'm not detracting from LOD though because they are one of the greatest tag teams ever, and IMO they are were a better team then the Dudleys, but they most definately did not draw as much as the Dudleys did.

 

[ROHDude]

Road Warriors > The Dudleys.

Hell, I'd be willing to bet the Dudleys would even tell you that. First merchandise doesn't count. Merchandising became big in the 90's. The Road Warriors were huge back in the 80's.The Road Warriors wrestling in the 80's were a bigger draw than the Dudleys. This was back before national television deals and PPVs and the internet. There were nobody like the Road Warriors back then and people payed to see them. You have to reallize the times have changed drastically in wrestling.

The Dudleys are the last great actual tag team, but they are not better than the Road Warriors. The Road Warriors were tag champs in WWF, AWA, & NWA. They were the originals. Hell, the Dudleys technically were never WCW champs. Winning them after the WWE bought out WCW is a load of bullshit.

And I'm not taking anything away from the Dudley's. They are great and like I said they are the last great tag team. They fit in the same category as the Road Warriors & the Rock N Roll Express. But they are not as good or as big as The Road Warriors were.

If you ask any casual WWE mark between the age of 12-25 I'm sure they'll know the Dudleys, but may not know who the Road Warriors were. Ask anyone who grew up in the 70's & 80's that watched wrestling they'll know who the Road Warriors are, and not the Dudleys. Ask anyone with any wrestling knowledge and history and respect for the sport they will tell you that the Road Warriors are & were bigger and better than the Dudleys.

Also main eventing a WWE PPV means nothing either when it comes to your legacy. Some other big talent in the 80's that the WWE didn't do shit with were Barry Windham, Dusty Rhodes, Ricky Steamboat, Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard. Hell, they dropped the ball with Ric Flair even.

 

[County4]

The Dudley Boys the one and only tag team that i respect in the Total Non-Stop Action Wrestling and their former run in WWE also surprises me.The Tag team had True Talent the 3-D and the Tables.I still remember watching one match in 2002 or something it was Bubba Ray Dudley vs Chris Benoit beleive it or not it was a very short match it was so short that you people might not beleive but that was my Fav Match and I loved it so much I watched it like 50times or something you people must think that im crazy but actually im not.
The Match itself showed the Best of Bubba Ray Dudley he did moves that were so good and impressive if you havent watched that match be sure to download it from Somewhere.
Not leaving the topic elsewhere the Dudley's are true Legends True Wrestlers their dedication to the buisness their contribution to the Buisness will always be admired by me if not other people.
Ray and Devon are best known for working together in the group as a tag team and are considered to be one of the most successful tag teams in wrestling history.

THE GIMMICK DEBUT:

Upon entering the WWF, Bubba sported thick black glasses with white tape around them, and stuttered promos, with Devon, wearing thick white glasses with black tape, slapping him in the back of the head to get his words out. After several weeks, the gimmick was dropped but Bubba's glasses were not.


THE BEST MOMENT IN THE EYES OF COUNTY4:

Throughout 2000 and 2001, the Dudley Boyz engaged in a three way feud for the WWF World Tag Team Championship with The Hardy Boyz and Edge and Christian. The feud incorporated two critically acclaimed Tables, Ladders and Chairs matches, the first at SummerSlam 2000 and the second at WrestleMania X-Seven.And I loved all part of it.
It was so Awesome and it was so Great the TLC MATCH. I liked Bubba and D-Von better as heels as they were initially heels,quite popular heels, and were known for Bubba Ray's penchant for driving women (including Terri Runnels and Mae Young) through tables. The Dudley Boyz turned face in late 2000 or something. In early 2001 or somethin, they were joined in the WWF by Spike Dudley. Spike would instantly make an impact, aiding his brothers win the WWF Tag Team Titles in his debut, and being the Dudleyz' backup at the WrestleMania X-Seven TLC match.

The Moment I hated in the Dudleys Career:

As 2002 went along, Smackdown would see D-Von and Batista going their separate ways and D-Von briefly teaming with Ron Simmons in an attempt to win the then newly established WWE Tag Team Championship. Meanwhile, over on RAW, Bubba Ray would win the WWE Hardcore Championship 10 times, and would often team with Spike to form a new version of the Dudley Boyz tag team.

THE BEST OF THE REST (LOVE YOU DUD'S)

Bubba and D-Von would reunite following the 2002 Survivor Series, when D-Von made a run-in to help Bubba Ray, Spike, and Jeff Hardy win a six-man tag team match. From then on, he was back on RAW (as he was part of a package deal that would send The Big Show to Smackdown).

After the Dudley Boyz were back together they became a staple in the RAW tag team division over the next sixteen months, feuding with teams such as Three Minute Warning, La Résistance, Chief Morley and Lance Storm, Ric Flair and Batista (as members of Evolution) and various combinations of The Un-Americans.
Shortly after all 3 Dudleyz were drafted/traded over to SmackDown! in March 2004, Bubba Ray and D-Von turned heel once again, aligning with Paul Heyman and feuding with Rob Van Dam, The Undertaker, and Rey Mysterio. Along the way, the Dudleyz would win the WWE Tag Team Championship, making them the first tag team to win both sets of Tag Team Championships in WWE history. When Spike turned on Mysterio he became the "boss" of the Dudley Boyz after they had helped Spike take the WWE Cruiserweight Championship from Rey (Spike claimed leadership due to the fact that he was the only Dudley with a championship at the time).
After a lengthy Career Bubba D-von, and Spike would make what would be their final appearance at a WWE event, when they were a part of the original ECW One Night Stand in June 2005.
Im really very sad on Wwe making such a nasty decision on releasing Bubba Ray and Dvon I respect them and I always will.

Go Bless the Dudleys!
Wooh Wooh

 

[Rabbid Wolverine]

dudleyz vs lod

i'm gonna say 18 and under will pick the dudleyz, over 18 you know the real deal.
lod led the way for dominant tag teams, the dudleyz even stole the dooms day device and called it the dudleyville devide.
dudleyz are a mediocre tag team, i put alot of tag teams above them..lod, demolition,british bulldogs,hart foundation...because if you look at it, they were always in hardcore matches or table matches.. not really tag team specialists, who worked together(besides doin the 3d or the stolen dudleyville device)
but they were the best team in ecw history IMO

 

[X]

Road Warriors > The Dudleys.

Hell, I'd be willing to bet the Dudleys would even tell you that. First merchandise doesn't count. Merchandising became big in the 90's. The Road Warriors were huge back in the 80's.The Road Warriors wrestling in the 80's were a bigger draw than the Dudleys. This was back before national television deals and PPVs and the internet. There were nobody like the Road Warriors back then and people payed to see them. You have to reallize the times have changed drastically in wrestling.

The Dudleys are the last great actual tag team, but they are not better than the Road Warriors. The Road Warriors were tag champs in WWF, AWA, & NWA. They were the originals. Hell, the Dudleys technically were never WCW champs. Winning them after the WWE bought out WCW is a load of bullshit.

And I'm not taking anything away from the Dudley's. They are great and like I said they are the last great tag team. They fit in the same category as the Road Warriors & the Rock N Roll Express. But they are not as good or as big as The Road Warriors were.

If you ask any casual WWE mark between the age of 12-25 I'm sure they'll know the Dudleys, but may not know who the Road Warriors were. Ask anyone who grew up in the 70's & 80's that watched wrestling they'll know who the Road Warriors are, and not the Dudleys. Ask anyone with any wrestling knowledge and history and respect for the sport they will tell you that the Road Warriors are & were bigger and better than the Dudleys.

Also main eventing a WWE PPV means nothing either when it comes to your legacy. Some other big talent in the 80's that the WWE didn't do shit with were Barry Windham, Dusty Rhodes, Ricky Steamboat, Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard. Hell, they dropped the ball with Ric Flair even.

Yes everything you say is true, but the argument wasn't whether or not the Road Warriors drew more in the 80s if you adjust inflation and other crap like that. That's horseshit. I know that main eventing PPV's means nothing of your talent or worth or else we'd all be talking about how awesome that three tiered steel cage match with David Arquette was. The question was who drew more? And the answer is the Dudleys, thats just a no brainer. The Dudleys made much more money in their careers from shows then the LOD ever did, its as simple as that. And your argument of merchandising not around in the 80s, thats a crock of shit. You couldn't walk three feet in a wrestling venue in those days without having someone try to make you buy a Hulk Hogan shirt. There was a toooooooooon of merchandise in the 80s mate, even more then today I would say. Back then you had wrestler themed everything from toilet paper to comic books to cartoon shows to bobbleheads.

LOD were and are the better team, but you can't argue the fact that the Dudleys made more money, and therefore, drew more. There were never 20,000 people back in the 80s at AWA shows, you can bet your ass on that.

 

[JohnnyRodz]

Who cares about how much money the Dudleys made. The fact of the matter is if you complied a list of the 20 greatest tag teams of all time,the Dudleys wouldn't even crack the top 10.

 

[ROHDude]

Saying the Dudleys drew 20,000 is hilarious. Fans went to shows to see the Road Warriors. There was no other team like the Road Warriors. They were the original big badass mother fuckers. They were the originals with face paint as well. Fans went to shows to see the Road Warriors. Plus they dominated in Japan something the Dudleys never did.

Road Warriors > The Dudleys

I guarantee The Dudleys made more money and that's because of the time period they are in.

 

[X]

Okay then thank you for agreeing. I already said like fifteen times to you last two posters that LOD are a way better team then Dudley Boys, but that wasn't what we were arguing about, the argument was who made more money and who drew more people, and the answer is the Dudley Boys, thats just hard cold fact. Go look up the ratings, the numbers, their merchandise sales, I mean this isn't an opinion it's fact. Of course LOD are the better team, any wrestling fan with an inkling of knowledge knows that, but that wasn't the argument. Read the post before you lash out.

 

[PlatynumX420]

The only reason the dudleys/team 3d have made more money than LOD is because of the era they are wrestling in.Inflated salaries are the norm now and have been since 'the monday night war'.

As for as drawing more , what are you smoking (Pass that to me) ? In ecw (original) they were such great heels that they inspired near riots.Are u telling me that ppl paid to be spit on,beer thrown in their face and generally get shit talked to?Then in wwe they started off throwing women through tables and shit. Are u telling me ppl wanted to see that kind of stuff/be apart of that?
That doesnt draw ppl.