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Kassius Ohno or Antonio Cesaro?

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The title is as straight forward as possible. Who do you prefer? I, personally, have to most DEFINITELY go with KO, I used to love him as Chris Hero, why in the blue hell doesn't he use that name now? Also, I believe the time for him to be called up is now, he is DEFINITELY ready. I think KO has more charisma AND he is more of a brawler than Cesaro, which I prefer over the technical style of wrestling, which Cesaro gets the edge in IMO. Chris Hero>CC>KO>Cesaro. So, what do you guys think? Why? Let me know!!!!
 
Definitely have to go with Hero/Ohno. Much more charisma, more exciting style, and a less generic look. At the end of the day Cesaro just looks like another big bald guy. Take away his wrestling ability and you've got Nathan Jones. I feel like Ohno will have a much easier time getting over in the WWE than Cesaro, who for my money still isn't, just because there is more you can do with him based on just his natural charisma and mic skills alone. Imagine Mike Knox except a little smaller and about 100X more talent. People hate that they saddled Cesaro with the generic anti-american gimmick but really, what else is there to do with him? I look forward to Ohno's debut.
 
I must admit I haven't seen much of their ROH stuff, but from watching Raw, Smackdown and NXT I have to go with Cesaro. In the ring cesaro is better (that move on miz a few weeks back was awesome).I havent seen much of Ohno's charisma that you guys have been mentioning except for his hilarious line to Ricky Steamboat - "What are you going to do? Arm drag me!"
Cesaro may not be the most charismatic but i still look forward to his segments every week more than Ohno.
 
Man, I never thought of this comparison but I would LOVE to see this two in a feud. It's pretty close to call IMO, but I gotta go with Cesaro because I haven't seen too much of Hero/Ohno. He will be a solid midcarder once he gets the nod, but I don't know if he can go any further. I believe he is already 33-34 (?) and that is pretty late to debut in the WWE so we'll see how far he can go. My only knock on him is he needs to get in better shape. I know he has lost a lot of weight from previous years but he can still do some work to improve his look.
 
I think Ohno is absolutely amazing. Apart from his love-handles, I think he is the whole package. Cesaro is better in the ring, but I wouldn't say by all that much. He has a much more difficult style, though, so props to Claudio for that. And I hate his gimmick.

What I WOULD love is a KOW tag-team, but knowing the WWE, Ohno will probably get the living, breathing shit jobbed out of him for the first year or so.
 
i prefer them both as there ROH alter ego's, they were much more engaging, but if i have to chose as Manure said Cesaro is clearly the better wrestler and has made a good run with his gimmick and Ohno is just a good overall package but he's being held back in NXT for whatever reason, they had a golden opportunity but ego wont let them recreate a great duo or something..
 
I guess Id have to see Ohno get the same chance Cessaro did to make a fair comparison but Right now Id say ohno. Cessaro looks great, his strength stuff is really impressive for someone his size to do things so powerful is mind boggling ( This is btw why hes on raw and ohno the slimmer technician is on NXT) But his mike skills and what Ive heard from him is pretty meh. It might be the character but Ohno sounds much better when he gets a bloody chance to talk, he does a really good agitated aggressive psycho voice and his ring work I would say is equal to Cessaro they have different styles and each are as good at their expertise as the other. So I say Ohno although he may well drop the ball , many promising guys have come up with every one thinking they're the next bi thing only to fall flat so Ohno does at the end of the day have to prove himself before I will say for certain , but from I can say he is superior of the two
 
I do like both guys and I think that they both have good careers in WWE, but I have to go with Hero/Ohno on this one. Sure Cessaro is a great wrestler and is freakishly strong for a guy his size, But Ohno is just a good a wrestler as Cessaro is and his Mic skills are just first class.
 
I've had the opportunity to see both of them wrestle up close many times at FCW and NXT shows, and I think I gotta give the nod to Cesaro. To see how smooth his style is, and just how incredible his physique and strength are in person, you really see how much he stands out amongst the other guys on the roster. Ohno definitely has the "it" factor, but he is gonna have a serious uphill battle because he doesn't have the look or moveset of a WWE guy, sad but true. I like them both though, and certainly hope at some point in the future we will get to see some ROH rematches on the big stage between Punk, Bryan, Cesaro, Ohno, and Rollins.
 
I have to say its a push, what doesn't have, the other does. Thats why they were such an amazing tag team. I'd love to see them team up on the main roster. Sometime after Mania and AC drops the US title, put them in a tag fued with whomever the best babyface team is at the time. These 2 could pull a great match out of whatever meatheads WWE throws together.
 
As far as personality goes, it's definitely Ohno. He's given some great performances on the mic in NXT and it wouldn't surprise me if he's brought up to the main roster sometime after WrestleMania. I think Cesaro has the potential to be stronger on the mic, but his current character is so limited that I think we've yet to see what he's really capable of.

As far as in-ring ability, I'd say that they're about on the same level. Both use a more smash mouth style. I'd say Ohno uses more submission moves in his arsenal that aren't as basic as Cesaro, though both are pretty physical.

As far as the look goes, Cesaro takes it all day long. Ohno is someone that has a pretty weird body type. He's not fat but he's not skinny. He's also a pretty big guy, yet he doesn't really look like he's a big guy. He also has a distinct lack of muscle tone.

The both bring something that's just a little different to the table. One is better in some areas, one is better in the other and there are enough similarities between them to make it all mesh well. I suppose that's one reason why they were such a hailed tag team in ROH.
 
The title is as straight forward as possible. Who do you prefer? I, personally, have to most DEFINITELY go with KO, I used to love him as Chris Hero, why in the blue hell doesn't he use that name now? Also, I believe the time for him to be called up is now, he is DEFINITELY ready. I think KO has more charisma AND he is more of a brawler than Cesaro, which I prefer over the technical style of wrestling, which Cesaro gets the edge in IMO. Chris Hero>CC>KO>Cesaro. So, what do you guys think? Why? Let me know!!!!

Hero knew that when he came over to the WWE that he would have to get a new name before ever debuting on the main roster. That is just a fact of life. So to combat any potential character/name combination that the WWE may give him that would potentially hold him back(McGillicutty says hello) he instead came up with the Kassius Ohno name and character himself and pitched to the WWE upon his signing. They were impressed with his fore-thought, and allowed him to run with the character. It really is a small change from what he was prior, and in fact Kassius Ohno is based-on and a play off of his "Young K.O. Kid" persona.

As for comparing the two. First Claudio owes a great deal of his technical prowess to a longstanding partnership with Hero that basically acted as prolonged training period. Hero is as well versed in every facet of the art as any current worker in his age/experience range. From that standpoint, he is comparable to Punk and Bryan. It is a bit of a stretch to call Claudio a protege of Hero, but in a way it is also quasi-accurate.

Hero is a more complete in-ring worker, with more knowledge, experience, and a much better feel for storytelling. Claudio is definitely the flashier of the two due to the things he can perform because of his ridiculous strength level and above average athleticism for his size. Chris obviously doesn't have the same natural physical gifts.

Hero is also a superior mic worker. I know alot of people think that Claudio's "Cesaro" gimmick is limiting, because it is clearly defined how the character should talk, the types of things he should say, and how he should carry himself. But, that type of character helps Claudio because he can perform comfortably inside a box and not risk having to stretch himself beyond what he may be capable of. Hero on the other hand needs no limitations on the types of promos he can cut, and will be able to evolve his character however is needed over the course of time he will spend on the main roster.

The reason is quite obvious why Claudio has been pushed on the main roster, while Hero hasn't cracked the NXT midcard or really threatened to be called-up yet. That reason? Look. Claudio is an impressive physical specimen, you can't help but take notice when you see him. Hero, while having the height and other positive assets to his look, has always been somewhat "loose" or "flabby", atleast by WWE standards.

For the TL;DR crowd...
Claudio has the better look. Hero is far more seasoned in the ring and has the superior charisma/mic skills.


Preferably I would have loved to see them remain a tag team. They were the best in the industry just a short time ago. I also think being the main mouthpiece half of a tag team may be Hero's best way to get his foot in the door of the main roster.

I am confident that once Hero has found a way to ascend the ladder he will manage to get himself over. I would have loved to see him as an original part of the Shield angle. Hopefully he isn't destined to rot in developmental.

Also, I think that Hero's eventual future is as the head trainer at NXT, but hopefully he gets a nice, long, successful run with the big dogs first.
 
Tough to choose between The Kings of Wrestling.

Hero/Ohno is better on the mic and has a more versatile and innovative moveset. He has this style about him that makes people gravitate towards him.

But the more I see of Cesaro, the more I want to lean towards him. His mic skills aren't the best, but he is so skilled in the ring and his strength and power work really well with his moveset. He's got more of the look and build over Hero.

As much as I would like to see The Kings of Wrestling reunite in the WWE, a feud between these two would be very entertaining and not to mention they can probably put on a great match.
 
What I WOULD love is a KOW tag-team, but knowing the WWE, Ohno will probably get the living, breathing shit jobbed out of him for the first year or so.

Yes, because all those indy guys are getting jobbed. Punk, Bryan, Cesaro, Rollins, Ambrose, etc.

Ohno has improved his work in NXT and now I could see him getting a call up to the main roster. If he could just improve his physique a little bit more, he could be that Bruiser Brody type. Brawler, wild, and great on the stick.

But as far as this goes, Cesaro is much better than Ohno at this point. Cesaro has got the look, the power, getting a good push, is known among the fans, building his heat, the audience does get excited for a Cesaro match, etc.
 
I perfer Ohno.
But I say Cesaro overall will be more successful, he's younger has already debuted on the Roster and has a look WWE management can possibly get over with. Ohno right now his probably still on NXT due to his look/weight, recently he lost his teeth, and I heard he MIGHT have lost some of his HEARING 0_0. So idk.
 
Yes, because all those indy guys are getting jobbed. Punk, Bryan, Cesaro, Rollins, Ambrose, etc.

Ohno is not getting a major push in NXT, what makes you think he will be fast tracked into the main-event on one of the bigger shows?
 
Antonio Cesaro, I don't think Ohno will be as impressive. But, I will love to see them as tags of course as the kings of wrestling. They were great together, and they actually might help the division. Seeing Kane/Bryan vs Cesaro/Ohno for the Tag team titles will be great for WM.
 
He will still always be Chris Hero in my eyes and the vast majority who loves his work. He has an endless amount of more in ring charisma and overall has the stuff to be solid. Will he be given the chance who knows. I'm actually impressed with Cesaro so far. He's kept his belt whether through "clean wins", or by cheating. It has been a nice gradual climb for him.
 
Ohno is not getting a major push in NXT, what makes you think he will be fast tracked into the main-event on one of the bigger shows?

Ambrose wasn't even featured on NXT when it was repackaged and was barely heard of before The Shield.

Reigns was featured just once on NXT but before that, he wasn't getting a major push.

Point; just because you get a major push doesn't mean you are going to be the next one called up.

What makes me think that he may get a push to the main roster is that he is improving his all around game and not just coasting on his Chris Hero fame. As I posted before, he just needs to improve his physique.
 
Cesaro has the look and beastly strength that gives him the advantage from the jump off, but his lack of mic skills will need to be addressed if he's going to get into the main event as a regular, perhaps a manager will be the final piece of the puzzle.

Ohno has a great finish and I think he's more of a storyteller in the ring than Cesaro plus he can talk, but he'll need mic time in the same way Punk got it in order to really get over as his look will not catch the eye and his in ring style is not flashy.
 
I enjoy Cesaro matches. Great moveset and decent on the mic. he is freakishly strong. makes me wonder how big he is in person.

ohno hasn't done anything for me on NXT. his moveset and a tag match on youtube were good. if he has as much potential as it appears from people who have seen him on the indy scene, i think they should hold him and let him develop in fcw/nxt. wwe has brought up a lot of new talent this past year. he might get lost in the midcard.
 

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