Juventud Guerrera speaks about WCW

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I saw this is Facebook and somebody wrote about how WCW has aged better than WWE and that it hasn't been over exposed. Any time I see a clip like this, or someone talking about WCW I seem to listen. If this was "Juvi talks about WWE" I probably wouldn't have even clicked. But something about the WCW brand just attracts me to all things connected to it in 2012 and I don't see that changing. just fond memories and it's nice to look back on.

How many of you guys are nostalgic for WCW and can't get enough of it?
 
I tend to be the same, but not just with WCW. USWA, ECW, AWA, NWA, and other stories of older promotions that either aren't around anymore or just not as big (such is the case for NWA). It's a way of furthering true knowledge on not just certain promotions, but also the world of wrestling as a whole.

As for Juvi, I haven't heard the interview... because right now my Adobe is screwy. But I would if I could.
 
The one thing WCW had, was that it was never "awful" in terms of annoying to watch, either it was fantastic 1996 to mid 1998, or so bad-its-awesome 1999-2001, there is something very entertaining about just how hilariously bad that era was.

WWE on the other hand is either fantastic Golden 80s, 1997-1999 or absolute batshit awful 2002-2012, where waste of talent is a daily occurrence.

I too am nostalgic for WCW, because WCW represents the Monday Night Wars better, they started the war and with their fall also ended. WWF/WWE started sucking the day Invasion angle started.

WWE was trash before WCW started kicking their ass, the 90s for WWE were mostly badly before WCW challenged them, and after WCW closed down so did WWE stop trying
 
Wrestling on a grand scale died when WCW closed down. WCW and WWF brought out the best in each other. They hated each other and wanted eachother dead, but they needed each other.
 
My first memories of wrestling are of watching WCW, its the first time i actually saw Hulk Hogan on my t.v. I was 8 at the time, so due to my age, the last 3 years of the companies existence were pretty entertaining to me. I still think its a shame the company died out, and its an even bigger shame how WWE screwed up the whole invasion angle. Id go as far to say that i watched WCW more than WWE during the Monday night wars, purely because that is what i grew up watching. So yes, i am still nostalgic for WCW, and probably always will be.
 
I'll start by saying that I can't possibly be the only one that thought old Juvy Juice was dead. Glad he's not but totally forgot the guy existed

Anyway, I loved WCW. Goldberg, Sting, and of course NWO were all better than anything wrestling has to offer now. But the amount of hate WWE gets whenever WCW is brought up is crazy. For me its comparable to when people talk about the New England Patriots around myself and other Eagles fans. Why? Because our team lost in the biggest game they've ever been in.

WCW brings back alot of good memories of when I was growing up and luckily I turned to WWF before the Jeff Jarret and Vince Russo years. But why do people always say that WWF and WCW were each trying to put the other out of business. Thats simply not true and has been refuted hundreds of times over the last decade

Vince knew WCW created competition and with competition comes better programming and never wanted to end WCW. Eric Bischoff however was hell bent on putting McMahon out of business. Thats what killed WCW. Bischoff was so hell bent on ratings and beating Monday Night Raw that there PPVs were god awful and upper management didnt care because they were winning the ratings war. Vince was presented the opportunity to purchase WCW so he did. It was either that or WCW was just going to simply go away since new ownership wanted nothing to do with wrestling.

I dont think about WWE being bad now when I think of WCW. I think of how awesome it was to be growing up during that period in time when wrestling was HUGE. Too much negativity in here
 
I'll start by saying that I can't possibly be the only one that thought old Juvy Juice was dead. Glad he's not but totally forgot the guy existed

He came close to dying once, and there were periods of severe drug use (he got fired from WCW after all), but going by the video he looks healthy and reformed now so good for him.
 
I get very nostalgic for WCW. They are some of my favorite WWE dvd releases, and try to find old matches anywhere i can. I agree with the poster that said WCW and WWE brought out the best in each other, and when Vince bought WCW we all to a degree lost a little. For me WCW is definitely a feel good thing to watch.
 
I dont get nostalgic for the 90s WCW, at its best too many top talents were buried to further the Hogan-Nash show, even when the ratings were good the shows were often bad, the WCW stars were consistently buried in the NWO angle (which got ridiculous after Starrcade 97), I dont miss that at all, and I was always a WCW guy, this isnt a WWE fan biased against any non Vince McMahon related wresting shows posting here.

I will say that the product as a whole was better when you had two national promotions with major TV exposure operating at once. Unfortunately TNA has never come close to being a national presence comparable to WWE. Realistically wrestling almost died in 1991, the AWA essentially was done, as was the UWF & World Class. The USWA was still around (Jerry Lawler) but they didnt have a major TV deal and had no touring presence outside the greater Memphis area. WCW was almost dead, and WWE was getting very formulamatic and dull. Two years later things got much worse as WWE's New Generation Era lead by Brett Hart chased away fans by the millions, boring the rest who remained to tears. WCW offered little in opposition other than their main events, but at least you had an alternative, and if nothing else Hart, HBK, Flair, Sting, & Rude delivered some really good matches. Ultimately the business decline inspired both brands to push the envelope in efforts to re attract old fans, and
a boom period was slowly born.

The era that Im nostalgic for is Jim Crockett's NWA, the awesome tag team matches between The Rock & Roll Express, The Midnight Express, The Road Warriors (one of the first examples of true heel characters who promoters were forced to turn face because fans liked them so much they were cheered even as bad guys, 10 yrs before the Stone Cold phenomenon), the original cool heel gang The Horsemen, the super popular Anerican hero Dusty Rhodes, great young talent like Magnum TA, Lex Luger, Sting, entertaining mid carders like "Gorgeous" Jimmy Garvin w/ Prescious, the NWA product 84-88 was far more balanced and entertaining than any other period post 1980 in WCW. It was also much more entertaining in terms of promos and definately in match quality than WWE.

I agree a lack of serious competition does hurt the current product. I an nostalgic for old WCW, but not mid to late 90s era, I miss the mid 80s era Jim Crockett era NWA, that was a great time for quality wrestling.
 
I dont get nostalgic for the 90s WCW, at its best too many top talents were buried to further the Hogan-Nash show, even when the ratings were good the shows were often bad, the WCW stars were consistently buried in the NWO angle (which got ridiculous after Starrcade 97), I dont miss that at all, and I was always a WCW guy, this isnt a WWE fan biased against any non Vince McMahon related wresting shows posting here.

I will say that the product as a whole was better when you had two national promotions with major TV exposure operating at once. Unfortunately TNA has never come close to being a national presence comparable to WWE. Realistically wrestling almost died in 1991, the AWA essentially was done, as was the UWF & World Class. The USWA was still around (Jerry Lawler) but they didnt have a major TV deal and had no touring presence outside the greater Memphis area. WCW was almost dead, and WWE was getting very formulamatic and dull. Two years later things got much worse as WWE's New Generation Era lead by Brett Hart chased away fans by the millions, boring the rest who remained to tears. WCW offered little in opposition other than their main events, but at least you had an alternative, and if nothing else Hart, HBK, Flair, Sting, & Rude delivered some really good matches. Ultimately the business decline inspired both brands to push the envelope in efforts to re attract old fans, and
a boom period was slowly born.

The era that Im nostalgic for is Jim Crockett's NWA, the awesome tag team matches between The Rock & Roll Express, The Midnight Express, The Road Warriors (one of the first examples of true heel characters who promoters were forced to turn face because fans liked them so much they were cheered even as bad guys, 10 yrs before the Stone Cold phenomenon), the original cool heel gang The Horsemen, the super popular Anerican hero Dusty Rhodes, great young talent like Magnum TA, Lex Luger, Sting, entertaining mid carders like "Gorgeous" Jimmy Garvin w/ Prescious, the NWA product 84-88 was far more balanced and entertaining than any other period post 1980 in WCW. It was also much more entertaining in terms of promos and definately in match quality than WWE.

I agree a lack of serious competition does hurt the current product. I an nostalgic for old WCW, but not mid to late 90s era, I miss the mid 80s era Jim Crockett era NWA, that was a great time for quality wrestling.

FlairFan pointed out something I should have been more clear about in my post. My nostalgia comes from the same time period he is talking about. I had mentioned the Midnight Express vs The Rock &Roll Express in a post the other day. Sting and Flair at GAB. Great Great stuff. I stand my my comment though that WCW and WWE brought out the best in each other later on though.
 
I loved WCW when i was growing up, i remember starting to watch it around 91 when they had the likes of El Gigante, Big Josh, Sting, Arn Anderson and my fave at that time "The Natural" Dustin Rhodes. I actually still had my Sting wrestling buddy up until about 3 years ago, and for a 10 year old who could only watch WWF at a friends or familys house because we didnt have sky at the time these guys were my heros.

As soon as we got sky (early 92) i became a WWF fan and WCW sort of went to the back burner until Hulk Hogan joined there which made me intrested again. I managed to watch it on ITV here in the uk on a saturday around tea time for a small while which i remember the wheres cactus jack? segments a little bit.

It wasnt until my uncle managed to show me that WCW was on TNT followed by Raw every monday over here that i really got back into it, 97 onwards i was a huge WCW fan and prefered them over WWF during the attitude era even had my NWO wolfpac shirt :)
 
I'll never agree with anyone who says talent was buried in WCW during the mid to late 90s. You want buried? Look at midcarders in today's WWE. They normally have no purpose and just go out there ho hum until someone decides to tell fans they matter again and give them a story.

That is NOT what happened in WCW. In 1997-1998, WCW did a brilliant job of making all of their titles important. This is why people who dismiss title reigns in WCW because "everyone won the belt!" give themselves away as someone who didn't watch. During that stretch, the TV title felt important. The US title felt important. The cruiserweight title felt important.

The guys fighting over the tv title and cruiserweight title were not buried. That was some of the most popular stuff going and they got a ton of air time. Juventud Guerrera, Chris Jericho and Dean Malenko were part of some of the best stuff in wrestling in 1998. Fans didn't think it was just filler, we cared. Those guys were not being buried.

It wasn't until 1998 started to move along that things started to fall apart at the seams. Thunder was a disaster and the creative team really started to get weird and stopped pushing the mid card the right way.

Lastly, people point to the Radicalz leaving as examples of guys who were buried and left but it isn't true. They didn't leave because they were getting buried (quite the opposite actually, at that time Benoit had been pushed to the top) they left because they didn't want to work with Kevin Sullivan.
 

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