Justice League vs. The Avengers Tournament, Match #2: The Flash vs. Quicksilver

Who wins this match?

  • The Flash

  • Quicksilver


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The Flash (Barry Allen)

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ORIGIN:

When Barry Allen was only eleven, his mother was killed. His father was wrongly tried and convicted for the murder and later died in prison where Barry watched him. However, the young Allen refused to believe that his father was guilty of the crime. His life ground to a halt as he dedicated himself to finding the real murderer and, more importantly, finding the motive behind the murder. Because of this, Allen studied forensic science and dedicated himself to solving not only his mother's case, but those of other people in his situation.

After graduating, Allen found work with the Central City Police Department as a police scientist with a well-known habit for slowness and lateness. Working late in the lab one night, a rack of chemicals that he was working next to was struck by lightning and Allen was doused in chemicals. Surprisingly unharmed, Allen cleaned up the mess and returned to work, but soon noticed that the world appeared to be moving much slower than normal. He soon realized that it was not the world that had slowed, but himself who had sped up. An avid fan of comic books, especially the adventures of the Jay Garrick Flash, Barry decided to follow in his hero's footsteps and fight crime, taking Garrick's superhero name as a form of tribute. Experiments with his powers revealed that not only was he super fast (faster than time when he tries), but he could vibrate his molecules, allowing him to appear invisible and phase through solid objects. He could also think and process information at light speed. His girlfriend's adoptive father, Ira West, created a suit that could deal with his powers, and chemically shrunk it so it could fit into a ring for ease of portability. Though much of his crime fighting was limited to Central City, Allen constructed a Cosmic Treadmill to allow him to travel to alternate dimensions.

After Flashpoint, The Flash is partly responsible for the creation of a new timeline in which the entire universe has been compressed and altered into a five year timeline. For Barry Allen, his origin is only slightly altered. As it was originally, Barry's father is blamed for the death of Barry's mother. After his father goes to prison for the murder, Barry is placed in the hands of Darryl Frye, a police officer that may have had a relationship with Barry's mother. Barry is raised by Frye and because of his connections to the police force Barry becomes interested in working for law enforcement. During his college years Barry would meet with Manuel Lago at a party and soon become close friends until Manuel went into a military program, where the two would lose touch. For years Barry would visit his father in prison, much to his fathers pleads to stop and move on. Barry would do no such thing and would in his spare time at the science lab try to figure out his mother's murder and prove his father's innocence. One such night, Barry would get angry and throw one of the machines out the window, allowing an opening for a lightning bolt to shoot into the lab, hit Barry, and dose him in chemicals, connecting him to the Speed Force. After this, he would become The Flash. Some time later, Barry would be forced to join the Justice League during Darkseid's attack on planet Earth, locking himself in as a founding member.

POWERS, ABILITIES, AND FEATS:

Barry's primary super power is super speed, which he gets from tapping into the Speed Force. When Barry runs he generates the Speed Force so he is the engine. Everything around him (as seen in comics) slows down, but he can still make out crimes/people and is even seen talking while moving in super speed.

His current prowess with the Speed Force allows him to run faster than the Speed of Light, but it is possible that he is capable of moving beyond even that. He does not usually exceed Mach 10, as doing such a thing would pose a danger to his surrounding environment.

Barry keeps his usual running speed is subsonic, to limit the destruction he might cause to people and structures. He is capable of running across water and up the sides of buildings. Barry has used his super speed to quickly rebuild damages that he might have caused, and he can also take apart objects in mid air within a blink of an eye. The Flash is one of the most powerful metahumans. Barry Allen is the fastest Flash. Barry said in Flash rebirth that whenever he ran he saw the light (the Speed Force) on the horizon so when runs he is skating on the edge of the Speed Force.

Barry generates the Speed Force whenever he runs, unlike others, he dosen't just tap into it. Every time Barry runs someone in time can access the Speed Force. So when Barry died and Wally West became The Flash, the Speed Force didn't grow. Barry, being the engine of the Speed Force, runs the fastest and can run into the Speed Force pre 52. In New 52, Barry can run into the Speed Force or teleport in with his mind, and he can bring others with him. Barry can't be cut off from the force if he is the second he moves he will generate energy and have his speed again.

Barry Allen can control his body at the molecular level, allowing him to vibrate his body through solid objects. While in this intangible state, he is able to breathe and is immune to any airborne viruses. He is also able to vibrate so fast that light doesn't reflect off of him, rendering him invisible to the human eye. He retains sight even in this state. Barry can also extend this ability to solid objects and phase them through other matter. Though the larger the object the more tired he becomes. He has shown to even phase an entire airplane and its passengers for a limited time.

The Flash has nearly infinite endurance. He can run for very long periods of time. He has raced Superman around the world. In theory, he could run forever.

Related to his super speed, Barry Allen is able to run in a circle and create a vortex. This vortex can be used for numerous purposes, such as pulling air out of the center to suffocate an enemy, levitating whatever is in the center, send a person in the center to another dimension, funnel toxic gases, and create a barrier, among other uses. He is also able to create tornado-like winds by spinning his arms quickly, and can use these to various effects, usually offensive.

If Barry moves fast enough he can create an afterimage or a speed mirage as Harrison Wells called it in The Flash tv show.

Barry can create construtcs shown in Flashpoint paradox he changes the reverse Flash costume to his Flash costume. Wally also said he would teach Barry how to do this though it's unknown if he did.

Barry has an accelerated healing factor not like Deadpool or Wolverine though. He can heal fast and has healed from deadly burns very quickly.

A required secondary power tied to his speed, Barry Allen's body is surrounded by what he refers to as the "Speed Force aura," which can absorb kinetic energy. This aura protects him and anyone he is carrying from the effects of the speed, especially the effects of friction and airborne particulate matter. It also prevents him from sustaining injury from high-speed impacts, and affords a low-level of superhuman resistance to injury.

In The Flash tv show if Barry generates enough lightning he can charge it in to a burst and throw it. Barry has used this to turn sand demon to glass. Barry can use this to stun enemies.

Barry Allen's brain moves as fast as he does, meaning he is able to think extremely quickly. He is able to read a book at super speed, and retains this information in his short term memory just long enough to implement whatever he has learned (example is with the rebuilding of an apartment which was destroyed when he was battling the Renegades). He is also a skilled forensic scientist. He is proven to be very knowledgeable in criminology and chemistry. He is able to alter his perceptions in such a way that time appears to pass differently for him. In the span of a second he may have experienced years, and been able to alter elements of his environment while the time was passing, such as replacing a falling object or disarming an opponents weapon within a blink of an eye and also faster. He has also been shown to be able to mentally tap into the Speed Force to give him a sense of pre-cognition, where he can anticipate certain chain-reaction events. Using this sort of "super brain" ability, he is able to calculate multiple consequences of his actions, and act on it in a mere second.

Barry can tap into the speed force and use it as a powerful tool to turn invisible. Just like how he is able to vibrate through solid objects, Barry Allen can move his body fast enough to appear invisible. In the New 52, Barry himself has stated that the ability to become invisible is very limited.

Barry can go into the Speed Force and control it. People can gain Speed Force based powers if they go into the Speed Force. For example, Iris West got super speed (not everyone will get super speed). Barry can teleport himself and others into the Speed Force at will. If Barry runs too fast, he could make a worm hole leading to another time or place in time and space. In the New 52, the Speed Force is made up of rocks, images of Barry's past, and things pulled from time and space (tanks, old planes, etc). Pre 52, the Speed Force, is just orange and yellow lightning.

At times, Barry Allen was able to travel through time (which he did in Flashpoint). He has shown the ability to vibrate into other dimensions. Barry can make worm holes to pull things from different times.

Barry ages slower because of the Speed Force, and so do people close to him, such as his wife Iris.

Barry thinks at light speed, making him immune to mind control.

If Flash runs fast enough (near speed of light) he gains the relative mass of a white dwarf star. Letting him punch hard enough to knock a Martian from Mount Rushmore to Africa with one punch. Flash's durability is automatically controlled by the Speed Force so he doesn't hurt his hand.

Using the Speed Force, Flash freed Iris West Allen from the control of the Anti-Life Equation.

WEAKNESSES:

The Flash isn't particularly vulnerable to anything special.

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Quicksilver

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ORIGIN:

Pietro and his twin sister Wanda ( Scarlet Witch ) always assumed that they were the children of the gypsy couple that raised them, Django and Marya Maximoff. They did not know that they had been adopted. In fact, they were born on Wundagore Mountain to a woman only known as Magda, a woman on the run from her husband who had “become a monster”. She appeared at the house of Bova, the midwife to the High Evolutionary, heavily pregnant and stayed for a few weeks until she gave birth. She then immediately fled into a raging blizzard and was never seen or heard from again. Given her weakened state following delivery, it is assumed that she perished. Whilst at Wundagore Mountain, they were also offered for adoption to the Whizzer when his wife died. He did not accept them, but thought that they were his children.

Poor but loved, the twins enjoyed a relatively happy childhood until their family was killed by local villagers angered at Django for stealing food. Using his new found powers, Pietro was able to rescue Wanda. Orphaned, the twins wandered Eastern Europe, constantly on the move as Wanda’s uncontrollable hex powers would draw suspicion from the people around them. One day Wanda accidentally set a house on fire, spurring the locals to attack the twins. Despite his best efforts, Wanda and Pietro were trapped until rescued by Magneto.

Feeling that they owed him a debt, they reluctantly joined the Brotherhood Of Evil Mutants. Magneto played on their fear of outsiders and Wanda’s gratitude, but neither twin was comfortable as a terrorist. Pietro always made his disapproval known and repeatedly stated that he stayed only for his sister’s sake. Wanda was more compliant, feeling indebted to Magneto, but was deeply unhappy and often shocked by Magneto’s callous behavior. Whilst in the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, both Toad and Mastermind would often play for Scarlet Witch's feelings, and so Quicksilver would stand between her and them. Unconsciously however, both twins absorbed Magneto’s attitude of mutant superiority, which would occasionally surface form time to time in their lives. When Magneto was taken from Earth by the Stranger, Pietro and Wanda ended their association with the Brotherhood and returned to Europe.

POWERS, ABILITIES, AND FEATS:

Quicksilver was originally presented as a mutant capable of moving and thinking at superhuman speeds. Originally capable of running at the speed of sound, exposure to the High Evolutionary's Isotope E made it possible for the character to run at supersonic speeds of up to Mach 10 and resist the effects of friction, reduced oxygen, and kinetic impact while moving at super-speeds. Also, he has a fast metabolism and can heal more rapidly than the average human. The character's speed allows him to perform such feats as creating cyclone-strength winds and running up walls or across bodies of water. It has been revealed that one of the reasons for his abrasive and impatient personality is that it seems to him that the rest of the world is moving in slow motion and that he is constantly waiting for it to catch up. As he once explained, "Have you ever had a day where you are at the ATM and you are in a hurry because you're running late but the person in front of you doesn't know how to use the ATM and they're taking forever? Now imagine what it must be like to spend every day surrounded by people who don't know how to use the ATM."

Quicksilver loses his powers of speed when his sister removes most of his mutant powers, but gains new powers courtesy of the Inhumans' Terrigen Mist. The mist gives Quicksilver the ability to displace himself out of mainstream time and space and "jump" into the future. The character can summon several time-displaced duplicates of himself and appear to teleport by "jumping" into the future and then returning to the present at a new location. By voluntarily embedding fragments of the Terrigen Crystals into his own body, the character could empower former mutants with extreme versions of their superhuman abilities. However, the effect was usually fatal. The crystals are subsequently forced from the character's body by the mutant Rictor, leaving him without these abilities. After having a series of hallucinations, Quicksilver saw a woman in mortal danger and felt a desire to be a hero then regains his mutant powers in order to save the woman's life.

It was later revealed that he actually was a normal child that was put through several experiments by the High Evolutionary which granted his powers.

WEAKNESSES:

Quicksilver isn't particularly vulnerable to anything special.

WHO WINS?
 
In a lot of ways, Quicksilver sort of puts me in mind of a Eurotrash version of the Flash and not nearly as popular or well known. Flash's upper threshold of speed has always seemed much faster than Quicksilver, though going at his highest level would cause devastation to the planet itself, possibly even ripping away portions of the atmosphere. Twenty years ago during the non-canon DC vs. Marvel crossover series, this was one of the battles featured, it went to Flash and I see no reason to see why this one would be any different.

For the most part, they have the same powers including bodies who's physical durability is heightened to withstand the damage that would otherwise be caused to bodily tissue by moving at high velocities, superhuman stamina, agility, reflexes, etc. While I ultimately give it to Flash, I doubt it'd be a walk in the park for him; Quicksilver would give him a pretty good fight but it's just hard for me to picture Quicksilver going over the Flash.
 
When I first thought of this tournament, I thought that this would be a great, close fight. In researching their powers, however, the Flash seems to be heaps faster than Quicksilver and has more incredible feats as well.

I think the Flash would win hands down and I don't think it would be all that hard either.
 
Wally West with the Speed Force can travel faster than the speed of light, because fuck the human laws of physics, and can reduce an opponents momentum to zero. Using the Infinite Mass Punch he can release enough power to destroy a planet. Actually he can probably do a lot more damage than that. Quicksilver, IIRC, is no where near this. I'd say Flash wins handily.
 
These guys actually fought each other in that Marvel vs DC crossover that happened back in the 90s.

Flash won.
 

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