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Morrison still needs to work on some things before I'll believe him as main-event material. I'm still not a fan of his offense because when he does those flashy moves, half of them come at times when he doesn't really have to do them. I noticed the comparison to HBK of being an "acrobat" and Morrison has a good build like Edge so I don't see why he has to be that way. I heard Rey Mysterio being criticized as having a nonbelieveable offense but he has to utilize his speed and his spots seem to flow with the match unlike Morrison's. I'm curious to see how he would perform against the Undertaker's and Batista's because I don't believe his offense would be as good as he was facing them as opposed to Ziggler, Mysterio, or McIntyre. The flips are okay and all but you have to evolve sometime. Hardy did and I'm sure that Morrison can.
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That's his match last year with Batista. In my opinion it's a good one A because you were pondering how he'd fare in a match with a big guy and cited 'Tista and thus it directly addresses your (shall we say) 'concerns' about Morrison Vs. Big guy, and B because it shows that Morrison is capable of picking his spots at a time that fit into the match (there were relatively few of them, all at times where he's either trying to put 'Tista away or trying to get an edge using his high risk/athletic offence, before it ultimately costs him the match. So, as long as he does his spots at suitable times (as he's shown he can in that match) he shouls be fine against people who pretty flippies arent the most effective course of action.
 
Well i think Morrison was overrated B4. But now I think he is in a good position. After the winning I.C titles from jeff hardy. I thought he was overrated. Then a year later winning ECW title more overrated. But I m glad they slowed him down and stuck him with the miz.

Him winning the I.C and ECW title has paid off. I think being with the miz. His character and talent developed. He wasn't too boring b4, his mic skills can use a little work. But as of today Morrison is future World Champion material. I like how his offense in the ring with the kicks and flips. I like the starship champagne, although I would prefer the moonlight drive more.

If you would of ask me in 2006 or 2007, That Morrison was overrated. I would say "hell yes" IMO,
 
It's not that he's overrated its just that WWE failed to build him up properly. I want to address some problems regarding John Morrison. First off I think WWE failed to capitalize on his growing popularity. Sure he looks great in and out of the ring but there are some unanswered questions and blanks:

1: What is his gimmick? He's been called the Shaman of sexy, but why wont he act like a cocky narcissistic guy? they praised him to the heavens, told us that his moves are so great we should fawn every time we get to see him. But what is his gimmick? he has none. Morrison isn't that over for them to just let him wrestle and not put him on promos. Bad mistake on WWE's part.

Why wont he decent get Mic time? Sure he sounds like he's going through puberty, but they say that practice leads to excellence. When was the last time we ever heard from him saying something good or funny? The scripts they provide Morrison does not fit his character at all. And just flushes his Mic skills further down the drain.

I hope Morrison does improve, I've been a fan for a while now but I think they have to do something better with him than now.

(And for the people asking for a WC for JoMo: Oh.. PLEASE. This guy has got a LONG way too go. In my eyes Sheamus is a better WC the JoMo at the moment. Give the guy some time to correct his flaws so that we can enjoy his WC run.)
 
Morrison is very bad on the mic, but the facts are, this guy is way over and the fans love him. A few months ago, I went to a Smackdown TV taping. Morrison had a match with CM Punk, and the pop he got when he made his entrance was insane. And the crowd was chanting his name throughout the entire match.

Morrison has the look and the charisma, but really needs to work on his mic skills. He will be wearing the WHC in the near future...we just have to wait.
 
I wasn't gonna bother replying to such a silly thread. Then something caught my eye. You said that John Morrison couldn't tell as story. Well I strongly beg to differ. Did you see his matches with CM Punk during the summer? And the world title match with Jeff Hardy? Those told stories and did it exceptionally well. Don't try to argue that Hardy and Punk carried Morrison, because neither man is good enough to carry a supposedly underrated wrestler to matches that good.

And the crowd dies when he's in the ring? Sorry, but if you'll look at his PPV match with Dolph Ziggler, you'll find a "this is awesome" chant broke out at one point.

Morrison isn't overrated. Sure, he's not a technical wizard, but he's damn solid in the ring. There's a difference between being acrobatic and being a spot monkey. For instance, some of TNA's X Division are spot monkeys, if not most. But Shawn Michaels, Jeff Hardy and John Morrison are acrobatic. They have great spots in matches but their matches aren't just spot after spot. Morrisons matches obviously aren't spot after spot, any wrestling fan could tell that.

And it's funny that you mention what Drew McIntyre said, because Morrison is infinitely more entertaining than the black hole of charisma that is the new Intercontinental champion.
 
John Morrison is not overrated, i do think that the guy needs some improvement on his mic skills and his also needs some rehashing on his in ring skills. The guy needs some sort of attitude adjustment, make a cocky face, and there you have it!

Saying that John is overrated is like saying that Jeff Hardy is overrated. The guy always botched and hardly had any mic skills, people still loved him.
 
Morrison is not overrated at all. He has a great and impressive moveset, his mic skills arent all there but theyre good enough, he can play both a face and heel which is hard to find these days, he has the superstar look, and IMO I see him carrying the WWE or World Championship in the next year or two.
 
I have to say...John Morrison overrated?...eh no. No sorry, I see what you're selling there but no, ain't buying it.

I generally judge a wrestler by his watchability. In the case of John Morrison, the watchability is very high. I believe that any push Morrison has recieved has been deserved, for a number of reasons:

1) The entrance : Has to be one of the best entrances I've seen and really suprised me that no one had really done the whole slo-mo entrance before.

2) The Moveset/ Athleticism : A standing shooting star press, I mean come on! I didn't even know that was possible unless you where a fucking carny! When a John Morrison match is on Smackdown! or a PPV, I watch, the guy entertains me, his moves are extremely athletic and original, John Morrison stands apart from other guys because he does things that other wrestlers wouldn't even attempt to do.

3) The Finisher : Need I even say anything? There's only a few moments in wrestling these days that I will rewind just to see over again because they look that good. Whether it be The Moonlight Drive or Starship Pain, Morrisons finishing maneuvers are good enough to merit that. Along with that fact that in a more traditonal sense, they are damn good finishers because Morrison can do them to any superstar on any roster.

4) The Look : John Morrison looks like a main eventer and a rock star merged in to one, I mean just look at him! In the famous words of Matt Striker, "you could grate cheese on those abs!". Now it not may be the most important thing in wresting bu a good look goes a long way, especially in the WWE.

5) The Mic Skills : Now I'll admit, Morrison isn't the finished article in the stick but the guy is funny. "Oh this jacket? 100% farm-raised Jackal", lines like that make me laugh a hell of a lot more than the supposedly funny DX, and as The Rock showed in his time, an audience will warm to a genuinely funny and charismatic wrestler.

Now with all these points considered, and the fact that rarely am I frustrated with the zealous amount of John Morrison I'm seeing on TV, or reading about on the this forum, I conclude that John Morrison is not overrated and if somepeople think he is, just consider the above evidence.
 
I think Morrison is slightly overrated as well. He's not that great on the mic and I don't know any other superstar beside Cena or DX who gets that much time on the mic.
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You can't think of ANYONE else who gets more mic time than John Morrison than those listed above. Do you not EVER watch Smackdown, Raw, or ECW? Also Morrison is NOT overatted in any way. He is in fact one of the most talented in ring performers in the WWE as of right now. He WILL be a main eventer and will hold multiple WWE titles someday. You fools who disagree need to start actually watching JoMo and stop thinking that a main eventer can't have a top rope finisher.
 
I'll say that Morrison is overrated, sure...just like just about every other wrestler currently in the WWE or in the entirety of the WWE's history! Face it, folks, all of these people are made out to be larger than life characters and will be pushed how the company wants to push them regardless of what we say here. Hogan was overrated, Savage was overrated, Cena and Orton and Batista and Triple H and Edge and all of the rest are overrated and have been for a long time, practically since they hit the main event spotlight. It's almost a badge of honor that the WWE is now willing to overpush and overindulge you by putting you in the main event. If you last in the spotlight, they'll keep you there 'till you're old and gray and falling apart. Just take a look at DX.

With that in mind, I have to say I don't think that Morrison is any more overrated than the others, and that he has more reason at this time to be overrated than many in the main event spotlight and even wearing championship belts. He certainly has more physical versatility in the ring.
 
I don't think Morrison is overrated at this point.
He has his overzealous fans that will defend him beyond comprehension, but he also has his detractors that will never fail to point out his flaws ( but also refuse to acknowledge his improvements ).

I think alot of the praise Morrison gets is justified. He's got a great look ( he's very, very HOT too), an awesome move set, and comes across as someone who's obviously going to be a great main event star as long as he and WWE don't blow it.
He comes across as fresh, but at the same time reminds people of HBK, who we all know is a superior in-ring performer.

Whether you like him or not, I don't know anyone who would deny that the guy is ridiculously athletic. He pulls off moves on a regular basis that are obviously difficult; and with an ease that's quite impressive.
Best of all, he's only 30, so there's an anticipation of great things to come from him, so it makes you want to follow him and see how he does.

But there are some things he needs to work on for sure.
From my observation, Morrison has a particularly tricky dilemma.
He comes across as a more interesting character as a heel.
The whole, vapid, New-Agey rockstar' persona he had going when he was with the Miz was, I thought that was very funny.
He was the cocky heel, but with a calm, dry wit instead of the in-your-face douchebag delivery that the Miz had.

While turning him face seemed inevitable ( his move set is way too engaging to expect the audience to boo him ) at first his persona really suffered for it.
He started coming across as bland and less interesting than the guy who was on the Dirt Sheet.
For example, John had a couple of bad promos when he first moved to SD and turned face. Yes, they were stilted, kinda of cheesy and sound far removed from the attitude he had on ECW. We have to remember, some of that might come with the territory of being a face in PG-era WWE.
But people started overreacting and proclaiming that he was the 'worst talker they'd heard in years' and therefore vastly overrated because of it.

First of all, I will contend that it's harder for the younger stars with everything being very, closely scripted to come across as natural when giving promos.
It's especially harder if you don't appear to have an innate capability to just cut promos, and Morrison appears to be that way.
That being said, I personally don't hold it against people if they can't talk as good as Jericho or Punk, I just want them to sound like themselves and not forced.
John, like the rest of the younger WWE stars, needs to trusted to improvise at least a little to he can develop a smoother, less gimmickly 'voice'.
I think within the last month, he's gotten better at doing this as a face, and he's got time to improve anyway.
And if all else fails, let's remember that Jeff Hardy, who was dubious at best when it came to promo-cutting, left the WWE as arguably their most over superstar this year.
As long as John find a way to connect with the fans somehow, he doesn't need to be The Rock on the mic, just coherent enough to get the feud he's in over.
 
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