heel/face balance thread!!

[Rated_R_Superstar]

Announcers, Ring announcers don't count etc.
Raw faces : Ashley, Brian Kendrick, Candice Michelle, Cody Rhodes, Hacksaw Jim Duggen, Hardcore Holly, Jeff Hardy, John Cena, JTG, Maria, Melina, Mickie James, Mr. Kennedy, Paul London, Shad, Shawn Michaels, Super Crazy, Trevor Murdoch, Triple H, and Val Venis.

Raw tweeners : DH Smith,Rory and Roby,and Vince McMahon.

Raw heels : Beth Phoenix, Carlito, Charlie Haas, JBL, Jillian, Katie Lea, Lance Cade, Paul Burchill, Randy Orton, Santino Marella, Snitsky,Chris Jericho, and Umaga.

Smackdown faces : Batista, Big Show, Cherry, Eve, Festus, Finlay, Funaki, Hornswoggle, Jamie Noble, Jesse, Jimmy Wang Yang, Matt Hardy, Michelle McCool, Rey Mysterio, and Shannon Moore.

Smackdown Heels(no tweeners on smackdown) : Chuck Palumbo, Curt Hawkins, Duece, Domino, Edge, Gregory Helms, Kenny Dykstra, Mark Henry, Maryse, MVP, Natalya, The Great Khali, Vicky Guerrero, Victoria, Vladimir Kozlov, and Zack Ryder.

ECW faces : The Boogeyman, CM Punk, Colin Delaney, Kane, Kelly Kelly, Kofi Kingston, Nunzio, Steven Richards, Theodore Long, and Tommy Dreamer.

ECW heels(no tweeners in ecw) : Armando Estrada, Bam Neely, Big Daddy V, Chavo Guerrero, Elijah Burke, John Morrison, Layla, Matt Striker, Mike Knox, Shelton Benjamin, and The Miz.

So there are 20 raw faces, 4 raw tweeners, and 13 raw heels(OMG ONLY)
In smackdown, their are 15 faces, and 16 smackdown heels.
In ecw, their are 10 faces and 11 heels.
So...there are 44 faces total,4 tweeners total, and 40 heels total.
We need 6 more people to turn heel to completely make it even.
Who should be the five people to turn face?

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Ashleys face, my crotch.

 

[Slim Pickns]

Make it happen Vince!

 

[kb noise]

Teddy Long is no doubt a face.

Holla Holla

 

[shalindar]

undertaker is a tweener.

 

[apa4ever]

JBL needs to turn face, although that will never happen

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Snitsky is a tweener

 

[FromTheSouth]

Snitsky's as much a tweener as I am a 9 foot penis. He's a jobber. He's as much a jobber as I HAVE a 9 foot penis.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

being a jobber has absolutely nothig to with wether your a face, heel ,or a tweener.

 

[Scotty]

i think snitsky is a tweener because the wwe wants to make him a heel but the fans wont let him become one by always chanting things like brush your teeth

 

[Mighty NorCal]

damn straight. Snitsky gets way more chants than most.

FACT

 

[Father:_Polley]

Half of the roster are tweeners dude. There are no true heels on the brands except Edge, Regal and JBL (Finlay with no midget as well...but he's tweener). all the rest get face pops at times...these are the only true heels. you seem to not be grasping the concept of a tweener...they are not announcing staff! Besides...lilian's face provided she doesnt screw up by saying american instead of canadian

 

[Dark Blaze]

Just wanna point out Polley, that by that criteria...Edge isn't a "true" heel...because there are times the crowd pops for him when they hear his music...then they boo him heavily of course He was cheered also at the Royal Rumble.

Not disputing that he IS a heel though. Just wanted to point that out.

 

[xmoshx]

Ashleys face, my crotch.

only if you have 25 grand she will

 

[Y 2 Jake]

I have it.

 

[C.M.]

I have one-fifth of 25 grand

 

[Tavion]

Based on Character:

Raw Faces: Ashley, Brian Kendrick, Candice, Cody Rhodes, Hacksaw Jim Duggen, Hardcore Holly, Jeff Hardy, John Cena, JTG, Maria, Mickie James, Paul London, Ron Simmons, Shad, Shawn Michaels, Super Crazy, Triple H, Val Venis

Raw Heels: Beth Phoenix, Carlito, Charlie Haas, JBL, Jillian, Katie Lea Burchill, Lance Cade, Melina, Paul Burchill, Randy Orton, Robbie McAllister, Rory McAllister, Santino Marella, Trevor Murdoch, Umaga, William Regal, Snitsky

Raw Tweeners:Chris Jericho, DH Smith, Mr. Kennedy

Smackdown Faces: Batista, Big Show, Cherry, Eve Torres, Festus, Finlay, Funaki, Hornswoggle, Jamie Noble, Jesse, Jimmy Wang Yang, Matt Hardy, Michelle McCool, Rey Mysterio, Shannon Moore, Torrie Wilson, Theodore Long.

Smackdown Heels: Chuck Palumbo, Curt Hawkins, Duece, Domino, Edge, Kenny Dykstra, Mark Henry, Maryse, MVP, Natalya, The Great Khali, Vickie Guerrero, Victoria, Vladimir Kozlov, Zack Ryder, Gregory Helms

Smackdown Tweeners: Undertaker

ECW Faces:CM Punk, Colin Delaney, Kelly Kelly, Kofi Kingston, Lena Yada, Nunzio, Stevie Richards, Tommy Dreamer.

ECW Heels: Armando Estrada, Big Daddy V, Chavo Guerrero, Elijah Burke, John Morrison, Layla, Matt Striker, Mike Knox, Shelton Benjamin, The Miz

ECW Tweeners: The Boogeyman, Kane.

 

[Rated_R_Superstar]

Mr. Kennedy and Finlay should turn heel again.

 

[Deexter Jorgan]

being a jobber has absolutely nothig to with wether your a face, heel ,or a tweener.

Yes but it defines weather you are shit or not

 

[FOTH 3:16]

Originally posted by Tavion
Based on Character:

Raw Faces: Ashley, Brian Kendrick, Candice, Cody Rhodes, Hacksaw Jim Duggen, Hardcore Holly, Jeff Hardy, John Cena, JTG, Maria, Mickie James, Paul London, Ron Simmons, Shad, Shawn Michaels, Super Crazy, Triple H, Val Venis

Raw Heels: Beth Phoenix, Carlito, Charlie Haas, JBL, Jillian, Katie Lea Burchill, Lance Cade, Melina, Paul Burchill, Randy Orton, Robbie McAllister, Rory McAllister, Santino Marella, Trevor Murdoch, Umaga, William Regal, Snitsky

Raw Tweeners:Chris Jericho, DH Smith, Mr. Kennedy

Smackdown Faces: Batista, Big Show, Cherry, Eve Torres, Festus, Finlay, Funaki, Hornswoggle, Jamie Noble, Jesse, Jimmy Wang Yang, Matt Hardy, Michelle McCool, Rey Mysterio, Shannon Moore, Torrie Wilson, Theodore Long.

Smackdown Heels: Chuck Palumbo, Curt Hawkins, Duece, Domino, Edge, Kenny Dykstra, Mark Henry, Maryse, MVP, Natalya, The Great Khali, Vickie Guerrero, Victoria, Vladimir Kozlov, Zack Ryder, Gregory Helms

Smackdown Tweeners: Undertaker

ECW Faces:CM Punk, Colin Delaney, Kelly Kelly, Kofi Kingston, Lena Yada, Nunzio, Stevie Richards, Tommy Dreamer.

ECW Heels: Armando Estrada, Big Daddy V, Chavo Guerrero, Elijah Burke, John Morrison, Layla, Matt Striker, Mike Knox, Shelton Benjamin, The Miz

ECW Tweeners: The Boogeyman, Kane.

How do Taker,Kane,and Boogeyman qualify as tweeners.And Jericho,Rhodes,Triple H,and Holly should turn heel.So should Finlay and Noble and Kennedy.And Palumbo should be a face.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

Wow...so with Jericho's heel turn and the possibility of the upcoming heel turns for CM Punk, Triple H, Cody Rhodes, and introducing heels Ron Killings and Chris Harris........wtf?

Look at what we have right now, if that happens:

Jobbers are in italics.

FACES (30): John Cena, Jeff Hardy, Hardcore Holly, Cryme Tyme, Kendrick & London, Mr. Kennedy, HBK, Super Crazy, Val Venis, Undertaker, Batista, Big Show, Jesse/Festus, Finlay, Matt Hardy, Funaki, Shannon Moore, Jimmy Wang Yang, Jamie Noble, Rey Mysterio, Matt Sydal, Colin Delaney, Tommy Dreamer, Kane, Kofi Kingston, Nunzio, Stevie Richards

(Undercard Jobbers = 8…13 if you count Jesse, Shannon Moore, Jimmy Wang Yang, Jamie Noble, and Matt Sydal)

HEELS (37): William Regal, Paul Burchill, Lance Cade, Carlito, Ted DiBiase, Chris Jericho, JBL, Santino Marella, Snitsky, Umaga, Randy Orton, Deuce/Domino, Edge, Khali, Ryder/Hawkins, Mark Henry, Vladimir Kozlov, Chuck Palumbo, MVP, Kenny Dykstra, Shelton Benjamin, Elijah Burke, Armando Estrada, Chavo Guerrero, Mike Knox, The Miz, John Morrison, Bam Neely, Matt Striker, Big Daddy V (with, if it happens, Triple H, CM Punk, and Cody Rhodes, Ron Killings, and Chris Harris)

(Undercard Jobbers = 5)

UNKNOWN: Charlie Haas, Highlanders, Trevor Murdoch, D.H. Smith
(All of which have been heels in the majority of their last matches)


Now ask yourself. On that face list, who is there to fill in the main event? Cena, Hardy, Kennedy, HBK, Batista, Big Show, Undertaker, Kane (while Kennedy is still in the midcard it seems and Undertaker is "fired", but ignoring that, you’ve got 8 people for all 3 brands). Midcard is Finlay, Matt Hardy, and Kofi Kingston, unless they boost up Matt Sydal and Jamie Noble, but that’s still only 5 people for THREE brands that aren’t jobbing, despite how Sydal’s new and Noble keeps losing.

But look at the heel list. Main Event, even if we don’t think they’re good enough for it, they use the following people: Jericho, JBL, Regal, Umaga, Orton, Edge, Khali, Mark Henry, MVP, John Morrison, Big Daddy V, Triple H, CM Punk. That’s 13. Midcard is Burchill, Cade, Carlito, Snitsky, Kozlov, Palumbo, Dykstra, Benjamin, Burke, Guerrero, Knox, Miz, Neely, Rhodes, and assuming Killings and Harris…making it what, 16? Sixteen against five.


What...is the WWE planning on having the "everybody is a heel in the nWo" thing come back or something? Lol. Seriously, I don't know what they're thinking by having this many heel competitors. Nearly all of their faces are looking weak right now. If we start having ppvs where we not only have two Divas matches, but we also start having "Edge defends the World Heavyweight Championship against Tommy Dreamer", or "WWE Champion Jimmy Wang Yang" (who is even suspended, so that's ANOTHER face taken out of the equation for 30 days hahaha)...then sink the ship.

 

[Rated_R_Superstar]

Mmmm Chris Jericho just turned heel.Lots of main eventer faces.But too much mid card heels..