He has Orton's Approval

[It's...Baylariat!]

I don't know if it was for kayfabe purposes. It probably was. But in the UK's Sun, Orton did an interview talking about numerous subjects, among them was if a fourth member of Legacy was necessary. He said that right now, Legacy is on the right track, but if he had a choice, he'd have DH Smith in the fold as the newest member.

There have been threads about speculation about who it could be and stuff, but here's the question I pose...


Would Legacy benefit from having DH Smith in the fold? Or...are they fine without him?

Personally, they need some muscle in the group, and enforcer if you will. DH Smith is strong, young, and has a mean streak. I say this would be a good move if this takes place. It'd make Legacy a little bit more ominous then they are now.

So...DH Smith...Yes. or No

 

[JGlass]

I agree with you, Legacy could use a muscle figure, but there are two reasons why I could see this being prevented.

One is it seems like they're using him to form a new version of The Hart foundation (someone had to mention it), and he can't rock two stables at once.

Number two, I have a feeling that if he was added to the group, they'd start being compared to Evolution in a serious way. I guess there wouldn't be any Ric Flair figure, but everyone else fits into a role that was filled by an Evolution member. Personally, I don't really mind this, I would almost invite because it'd make the group look even more powerful, if Evolution ran RAW then why can't this group of guys that are a lot like Evolution? But I don't know if WWE wants that.

I think Legacy could really benefit from a fourth member, and especially one of DH Smith's build and mentality, but unfortunately I don't think Smith is going to be the man to fill that spot.

 

[Mantaur Rodeo Clown]

Would Legacy benefit from having DH Smith in the fold? Or...are they fine without him?

A two part question. No they would not benefit from having DH Smith join their stable. It'll only add to the problem they have now. They are very boring. VERY boring. When your most charismatic guy isnt very charismatic unless he's acting psychotic, thats a problem. They are extremely boring. With a group like Evolution, you had the muscle and the generic rookie, being orton, but you had Flair and HHH to add a tiny bit of spice to the whole picture. so did DX, Four Horsemen, and most successful stables.


Quite honestly, if it werent for different haircuts and names, you couldn't tell DiBiase and Rhodes apart. Same trunks and boots as Orton, same boring speeches. Not a good match between them. And what will DH Smith do to that? He's the same generic Create-a-Wrestler you get in the playstation games. No gimmick except his name.

Personally, they need some muscle in the group, and enforcer if you will. DH Smith is strong, young, and has a mean streak. I say this would be a good move if this takes place. It'd make Legacy a little bit more ominous then they are now.

What would make them more ominous would be different personalities. Make Cody the high flier. Make DiBiase the feisty one. Distinguish them from jobbers. I mean really, their gimmick is "trying to be like Randy Orton". Thrilling

So...DH Smith...Yes. or No

No, he's got a good thing going on ECW anyways.

 

[Ben-Phillips]

I know this one might be a.. Well, a bit of a stretch, but it's honestly what I would look do to. I personally think Ted DiBiase will be G-R-E-A-T, but at the moment.. He's still pretty Green. As for Cody, well.. He's there in the ring, but he looks like a joke.. So, I think in a few months time, although, I doubt he'd be ready.. They pull up Brett DiBiase or Joe Hennig, two men who would fit into the tag team division with, preferably Ted, while he matures in the ring.. And perhaps bring a manager into the mix? Perhaps, idk.. Ted DiBiase? I was always a Million Dollar Man mark, and I just think "The Million Dollar Brothers" in WWE would be sweet, and with their HoF dad... Just my opinion, but it'd be awesome.. Then give Cody a run in the midcard, as.. He really needs it for his image.. Ted is the one with the image, not Cody, so they need to push Cody a little bit harder to make him believable. No doubting his in-ring talents, though...

As for the DH thing, honestly? I didn't want to see him in Legacy, sure, it woulda worked.. But he looks too nice to play that big of a heel.. Being thrown right into the main event scramble, backing Orton and whatnot.. And with that whole, drug problem? I don't think WWE would want to throw him such a big role immediately.. Also, keep in mind.. He hasn't done shit in the WWE yet, and might not do as well as touted now that he's on the main roster.. So I think it's a good move to leave Smith out, but I think Legacy needs another member, just for their image's sake.

 

[The Infant Finite]

D.H. Smith is already on track, finally, with the recent birth of the new hart foundation. While i agree that Legacy desperately needs some personality (when orton is the charismatic one, you start to wonder if this isnt another Zombie gimmick) DH Smith certainly is not the guy to bring that about.


If muscle was all they needed, then why is Manu in the Future endeavors club and sim snuka is lost in the abyss as we speak? Personally, I think they should just do away with the stable period, but they wont so i'll just analyze who I think would be a good mouth piece to add into the mix here.


Carlito
He is really just wasting away with those meaningless tag titles around his shoulders, hell the last three weeks he's only been in singles matches anyhow.
The man is a very strong preformer and his mic work is not great but it's head and shoulders above any of the 3 members of legacy. So why not have him turn on his baby brother and leave him in the dust for the golden promises of Legacy? it's not like carlito doesnt have an established heel's nature anyway. Not a bad idea, which is why it wont happen.


Chavo Guerrero
Yes he has been essetially buried by a sea of goofy squash matches and a laughable role as Vickie guerrero's aide, causing his terrific ring skills to basically be rendered irrelevant. But he has excellent mic skills and a very dispicable persona. He could fare well as an X-pac like mouth piece, who talks the talk and maybe holds a bit of managerial sway with Vickie being his kin and all to help him compensate for his booking imposed in ring drawbacks. Don't be so quick to dismiss that one. but again, likely wont happen.


Umaga
This wouldnt help in personality, but it would provide them with all the "security" they need. He may be roundaboutly a second gen superstar, but he still is one. Legacy could become a bit more legit and distinguishable with a monster to call they're own, perhaps Randy finds a strange way of controlling him. Thats a bit of a stretch, but I thought it to be an interesting idea.


anyhow, i tried to give you a worthwhile discussion. I hope i helped.

 

[Henry Hill]

legacy doesnt need to change, and thats the bottom line. the "boring" promos, as many people call them, due the good service of separating these young men from their fathers. we dont need a new million dollar man, dusty rhodes, or bob orton. we need something new and fresh and that is what legacy provides. i may be in the minority, but i like randy's cold and calculated arrogant promos. he's much better on the mic than he gets credit for. if another member was added to legacy, i'd like it to be a hart, playing on the montreal emotions, wanting revenge on wwe for it, but dh smith is not the man to do that. itd have to be one of brets kids if anyone, but for what its worth legacy is fine the way it is.

 

[RKOhead84]

This is my first time responding to a thread so here goes. IMO I don't thin anyone else needs to join legacy. Though if someone did, DH Smith wouldn't be a bad idea. Most of time when new people join stables, it's downhill from there (DX is a acception). IMO it's about time that legacy goes there seperate ways so Rhodes and DiBiase can go solo. DH needs a good solo push, not starting out with a stable.

 

[Mantaur Rodeo Clown]

I know this one might be a.. Well, a bit of a stretch, but it's honestly what I would look do to. I personally think Ted DiBiase will be G-R-E-A-T, but at the moment.. He's still pretty Green.

I fail to see what is so great about DiBiase. I am sorry, but he is living off his dads name. Honestly, his promos sound like he's chowing down on some marshmellows. He is terribly un inventive in the ring and he has zero personality. How is this someone thats going to be a future world champ? The only way they could get someone like this over is by, oh i dont know, pairing him up with HHH and Flair and letting him kill legends, or by giving him a white rapper gimmick. But sadly, no. DiBiase is to the wrestling world what the new X-men Origins: Wolverine movie was. Overhyped and Overrated. Plus I bet Hugh Jackman has a better chance of winning a title. What a gimmick.

Chavo Guerrero
Yes he has been essetially buried by a sea of goofy squash matches and a laughable role as Vickie guerrero's aide, causing his terrific ring skills to basically be rendered irrelevant. But he has excellent mic skills and a very dispicable persona. He could fare well as an X-pac like mouth piece, who talks the talk and maybe holds a bit of managerial sway with Vickie being his kin and all to help him compensate for his booking imposed in ring drawbacks. Don't be so quick to dismiss that one. but again, likely wont happen.

This is actually very inventive. Never thought about Chavo joining Legacy. The only issue would be that he's a bit older than the others. Otherwose, as you said, he can talk and he's different from the others. He's ethnic, guys!

Umaga
This wouldnt help in personality, but it would provide them with all the "security" they need. He may be roundaboutly a second gen superstar, but he still is one. Legacy could become a bit more legit and distinguishable with a monster to call they're own, perhaps Randy finds a strange way of controlling him. Thats a bit of a stretch, but I thought it to be an interesting idea.

Yes Yes a thousand times yes. It gives them them the muscle, he fits in with the gimmick and he is different. He isnt chiselled and toned. He has good ability in the ring and has experience. This is what they wanted to do with Manu, except Manu looks like the pillsbury dough boy, and is a poor mans Viscera at best. Umage is much much better, and when he came on the scene, crazy Samoan was fresh, at least in WWE. And on the subject of Manu, who wears shiny black boots like that to the ring with long stretchy black tights? I can see a good 7cm of his calf. Who designed that travesty? Support the barefoot revolution!

 

[Blade]

The problem it, apart from Orton, none of the other members of Legacy are doing anything at all. Joining with Orton should've been a career launching move but they're pretty much in the same situation they were in 8 months ago.
They've gone from being tag champions of a dying tag division to jobbing to Batista and *sigh* Shane Mcmahon. In terms of career development, both positions seem fairly similar.

Smith would make a good addition as a muscle, the guy who would beat up opponents with a gorilla press slam to help Orton win. It's the exact component The Legacy are missing, the component that would stop them getting beat up by Shane and would give them a chance against Batista.

If muscle was all they needed, then why is Manu in the Future endeavors club and sim snuka is lost in the abyss as we speak? Personally, I think they should just do away with the stable period, but they wont so i'll just analyze who I think would be a good mouth piece to add into the mix here.

Because Manu and Snuka are friggin awful. They never showed any real potential, in the ring or otherwise. Smith has more potential in his left foot than those two had in their entire bodies. And the guy is right footed...

Manu and Snuka didn't fit in, they seemed like the kinda monster muscle guys who destroyed for the sake of destroying. That's too mindless for The Legacy, Orton and the gang are more meticulous than that and have a reason for taking out people. Which is why I think Smith would fit in well.

 

[happyjack]

no d h should join kidd and form the new hart foundation. sadly legacy is about at an end and was very misused. this could have launched the careers of rhodes and ted jr. wwe dropped the ball. they should have put the tag belts on them for awhile and rebuilt the tag team division. and given them some rivalries. speaking of d h the new hart foundation would be have been great to face off against legacy. even the carlito and his brother let them be faces and mad legacy didn't pick them and start a feud. these are just ideas that should have/could have been done. but no d h in legacy. legacy is about the come to an end.

 

[Joup7]

I think D.H. Smith would have been a decent fit for Legacy. I mean, think about it from Orton's perspective. The best wrestling family ever is the Hart family, and Smith is a part of it. However, with Smith joining Tyson Kidd last week, there's zero chance of him in Legacy now.

In terms of DiBiase and Cody looking like Orton with ring attire and everything: that's done on purpose and correctly. Orton is saying that he is the God of wrestling essentially, and those who want to follow him should be exactly like him.

 

[Sean Valjean]

NO.

DH Smith is fine where he is: a member of the new Hart Foundation. He fits more with that group than with Legacy because of his connection to the Hart family anyway.

If they can make Legacy more interesting then they wouldn't really need anyone. Orton is fine as he is, but Dibiase and Rhodes really need work. Their characters need to be distinct, different because right now they're like a failed attempt at Orton shadow clones (That was a Naruto reference btw). If they can make those two more interesting and give them they're own storylines, Legacy won't even need a fourth member.

But if they HAD to have one, I'll have to agree with whoever said Umaga. He comes from a wrestling family and he's legitimately dominate, not to mention different. Unfortunately, he's on a different show so I'm not sure how that'd work.

 

[Fratelli]

before adding any new members of legacy, wwe should really try pushing rhodes and dibiase 'properly', insted of how they only seem to win their matches recently by cheating or on 2 on 1 or 3 on 1 matches, by giving either of them a run as U.S champion and see how they hold up.
if it works stick with it and eventually have the other orton lackey get jeleous and turn on the U.S champ setting up a nice little fued, pushing them closer to the main event.
sticking the tag team titles on them is too predictable and will result in weeks of tag team wrestling neglect and lose the belts some of the credability the colons and miz/morrison worked hard to get back.

DH should be fine as a part of the new hart foundation although i hope there are still no hard feelings towards him from tyson kidd after it became public knowledge that DH Smith, whilst down in FCW, told vince he wanted to leave Kidd and join Legacy.
Hopefully a lengthly fued on ecw with the colons or finlay & partner will give him and The Foundation the jump start they need.

 

[Hulkamania]

DH SMITH adds nothing. He is not even built or ripped like Batista so how's he supposed to be the muscle of the group when Cena, Batista and Trips are all more imposing than him? I think DH Smith wud be more equal to Evolution's up-start Orton.

 

[Deexter Jorgan]

The Fact is Smith is being pushed to the moon with the Hart Foundation, he is huge and is basically on the verge of being something more then expected.

Does Ortan need him?, no

Does DH smith need Ortan? No

Because ECW needs a good faction and he has the skill and dominance that will make him something of a huge up and comer at some point, its too soon for a big rub by a main eventer, he needs to progress steadily and prove to the WWE audience that he belongs here and i think with Tyson Kidd and Natalya he will get there soon.

But alas only time will tell

 

[Miller863]

i dont no who the legacy could work with but they def. need some one else. becasue cody is a little whimp and ted is ok. they just need to find someone else.

 

[GNR8701]

Nah, if he would have been good for Legacy than he would have already been in it as opposed to being in FCW for the past months. DH being the muscle wouldnt make sense because alot of the main guys are bigger and he is a Hart guy. He is a much better fit in the new hart foundation. What I am interested in is if they will have some kind of a merger between the two groups, not a full on one like the corporation and the mistry had with the corporate ministry, but sort of a you scratch mine i scratch yours type of a relationship

 

[Blade]

before adding any new members of legacy, wwe should really try pushing rhodes and dibiase 'properly', insted of how they only seem to win their matches recently by cheating or on 2 on 1 or 3 on 1 matches, by giving either of them a run as U.S champion and see how they hold up.

Think about it, adding Smith to the line up would help push Rhodes and Dibiase "properly". Their roles right now is to try and help Orton take out his rivals i.e. Shane, Batista etc... They do a shit job, but it's still their job. If Smith was added in, he could take out Orton's rivals since he's more powerful than Dibiase and Rhodes. With Smith taking care of Orton's opponents, Ted and Cody wouldn't have to worry about it and they could go on to do their own things, tag titles, midcard titles, whatever. And they could show up whenever Orton really needed them, just like Orton himself did for Triple H in Evolution. Make sense?