Your the one upset over it. Proving his point EXACTLY.
TNA pushes new talent, "They are boring, they suck, they belong in wwe, your a nobody!" these are what they get in responce.
We have people that HATE the fact Roode winning the BFG happend despite him being a homegrown talent. We have people that actually think Austin Aries winning the belt was a awful idea nd the comppany will die.
It's not about improving you're craft. If you improve it that does NOT mean people will like it. Fact is complainers hover around TNA more than WWE. It's a proven fact. I've pulled up posts from 2008 where people actually wanted TNA to rebrand, sign Austin Aries and other talent and push younger stars. In 2011, they still complain about the show despite doing all of those things. If Gunner came out of ROH, I bet people would respect him more.
It has nothing to do with him sounding like a bitch or "who cares what he thinks" because you are proving his point by sounding butthurt that he called you out.
Fact is there are people that always have a problem with soemething and he addressed them. These are the same idiots that thought TNA would do something "classless" on 9/11 and they still haven't said "I was wrong about it" when it never happend. As a wrestler, there is only but so much you can take.
There is a big line between criticism and downright complaining to complain.
Okay, so I don't complain all that much and have reserved opinion on the PPV last night up until this point, so I'll consider myself excluded from those included in Blackshirt Security #2's rant. In fact, I only watched two or three matches from this PPV and likely (hopefully) the two or three that would have had the less favourable workrate (Blackshirt Security #2's match not included), so I would be biased here. The above commenter has indicated that there is a big line between criticism and downright complaining to complain, which I agree with and, by mentioning 'dirtsheets', I would assume the former TV champion would as well.
I've listened to two reviews (both on the same show): one from the Live Audio Wrestling panel (Pollock, Lovranski and Agnew) and one from Dave Meltzer. One would be hard pressed to argue that any of these reviewers lack the credentials to be considered qualified 'critics.' While neither review were light on points of criticism, the central items included:
1. Incredibly lazy booking of finishes. 3 matches out of, what, 7 or 8 involved spraying something into the opponent's face; for what reason? It's somewhat central to two of the characters, but completely unnecessary with Hogan and avoidable with Storm (he couldn't have ref bumped some other way?)
2. 'The Final.' In at least two sets of promos during the night, 'the finals' of the BFG tourney were referenced. 'You don't wanna have to face me in the finals.' The tournament was set up so that there were no finals, the winner was to be determined by who had the most points at the end; why would Bully Ray or James Storm assume, even if there was definitely going to be a tie because both wrestlers would be looking to submit the opponent, that there would be 'finals'? 'Finals' had never been mentioned. Isn't it equally likely that they'd both be declared winners and go to BFG? Again, just incredibly sloppy execution. Most would assume, after the Bully Ray match, that he wouldn't win the tourney and that there would be some sort of showdown, but have some respect for the intelligence of your audience.
3. The awkward placement of the Rosita/Thea segment. First off, they put it right before the main event. Who backstage has so little foresight that they think that's the best spot for this segment? It's like when Smithers announces that a dog got run over in the parking lot before Homer takes the stage to do comedy. From what I hear, it totally killed the crowd. Doe this toward the beginning of the crowd or on TV. But, doing it earlier in the crowd lead to the next point. If this is absolutely necessary, and I think it does have a place somewhere on the card, why book her in her normal role as the heel for the rest of the show? It juxtaposes reality against the illusory world that they have created.
I encourage you all to download this podcast from the Fight Network. All of these points, and some others, seem fair to me. Feel free to comment if you disagree, but keep to the points. If Gunner found the criticisms he came across to be unfair, I may have been interested in hearing the reasoning. It's more than a fair request; he himself has professed to have a better understanding of the wrestling business than most through previous rants about how the 'stupid internet' perceived the 'Wrestling Matters' campaign (what kind of fool could have misconstrued that to have meant the company would be focusing more on the wrestling aspect of professional wrestling?) But instead, he gave a borderline hissyfit about 'my true fans' and 'fat internet marks,' so broad that you wonder what exactly he was talking about (his performance? the show itself? the booking of the BFG series?) It is customary for those with no intelligent response to a criticism to rush to the ad hominem, so in the face of legitimate criticisms, it doesn't surprise me that an oaf such as this would cover his ears and yell 'fat internet marks.'
I would be very interested in seeing how far many of his 'true fans' would follow him. Something tells me that a lot of the 'true fans' that he have would better be described as dogmatic TNA worshippers who are incapable of critically engaging with the product and therefore promote many of the tenets that keep TNA largely unnoticeable by the general public. I would be interested in seeing how much a 'true fan' would be willing to pay to see Gunner on an indy show six months after TNA gets rid of him, or how far they'd be willing to drive.
I have no doubt that Gunner, as well as the rest of the TNA roster, bust their tails every night. So do the WWE guys. The ROH guys. As someone with such a tight grasp of professional wrestling concepts should understand though, work ethic does not a compelling product make, nor should the product be judged on that alone. Maybe the fact that 'all of the Impact talent' really does do such a great job every night (I don't fully believe that, but I certainly don't think the talent is the central problem with the company) would indicate that most criticisms of the product are not directed at the talent and the lack of interest in the product for most is the result of bad management, production and creative decisions.
But why would Gunner bother himself with the opinions of a 'fat internet mark', a panel of wrestling experts, and (projecting) essentially any wrestler that isn't on the TNA roster and 50% of those who are. Two more security shifts this week and he can go cover his ears again. Keep them 180 word gems coming, soon enough that big oak tree will fall back to the indies where nobody can hear him.
just a thought but hey all the power to him if he wants to talk trash about the IWC atleast hes not kissing fans asses like other people do