Ezekiel Jackson

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I'm really disappointed that after being pushed very hard and winning the intercontinental title Jackson push seems to have stopped. With successive losses to Christian and Cody it seems now he isn't quite the unstoppable force that had been presented to us. Don't get me wrong I'm not a big fan of his(I think he has the look and that's about it) it's not a "why is Big Zeke not getting the push he deserves?" thread. But this bothers me for two reasons.

1.) It happens too often. Someone gets a push is made to look like the next big thing and then without reason they get jobbed out and made to look like just another guy. Eventually when a guy's getting a push you won't get behind him or believe he's going to make it because odds are within 6 months he'll be back firmly at the bottom of the card. It's happened with countless guys like Dolph Ziggler, they get pushed then are made to look like nobodies,then six months later they get pushed again almost from starch! Instead of doing that why not see the push though(and occasionly when someone asks why the guys not getting over,instead of blaming him, ask if perhaps he's being booked poorly).

2.)He's the IC champ!! Having the IC champ lose on a regular basis makes the title seem even more meaningless than it already is! It's like saying "we put this title on any loser so it doesn't really matter".

Anticipating a point that may be raised. Why do I have a problem with the new WHC going over someone when clearly it makes sense for him to look strong? No problem with Christian beating anyone but my retort would be, surely they could have put him over another face that's not receiving a push right now? Or a guy who the loss wouldn't hurt one bit like Kane.
Anyway thoughts?

 

[Rising Savior]

Well I have three problems with Ezekiel Jackson. Problem number one - Ezekiel Jackson can't cut a promo. When Zeke talks I honestly mute my television. Problem number two - Big Zeke just isn't over with the crowd. The only time I believe I heard Zeke got a nice pop when was he saved Show and Kane from The Corre other than that he doesn't really get an reaction. Not to mention nobody reacts to his torture rack. Problem number 3 - Ezekiel Jackson isn't a very good wrestler. Lets face it the guy's only getting pushed because he can bench a thousand pounds. Honestly all I see Zeke do is clotheslines and scoop slams other than those two moves not very much. I don't have a problem with Zeke losing to Rhodes and Christian because their better than him.

 

[silrock316]

Definitely. I see Jackson lose the Intercontinental Championship, not to Cody Rhodes but instead against some guy by the name of Mark Henry.

To the person I am quoting, I hope you are wrong because Cody has been a giant bright spot on Smackdown! and he is a legit star in the making. He has the ability and character to please US in the IWC and he has the looks to make the girl fans love him. He could also bring more prestige to the IC belt again.

To the original topic. Zeke does nothing for me. He is Ahmed Johnson all over again to me. You can do the power stuff only so long. His accent is annoying and he just doesnt really have a character to me.

Therefore to answer you, it doesn't much bother me.

 

[FSWWE]

Well I have three problems with Ezekiel Jackson. Problem number one - Ezekiel Jackson can't cut a promo. When Zeke talks I honestly mute my television. Problem number two - Big Zeke just isn't over with the crowd. The only time I believe I heard Zeke got a nice pop when was he saved Show and Kane from The Corre other than that he doesn't really get an reaction. Not to mention nobody reacts to his torture rack. Problem number 3 - Ezekiel Jackson isn't a very good wrestler. Lets face it the guy's only getting pushed because he can bench a thousand pounds. Honestly all I see Zeke do is clotheslines and scoop slams other than those two moves not very much. I don't have a problem with Zeke losing to Rhodes and Christian because their better than him.

Let me reply to each problem;
1) Zeke can cut a promo and he doesn't bother me at all, when I see an actor that I don't like I still don't mute the guy because I am a guy that likes the part of storytelling, and he doesn't need to be that good, heck Randy Orton gets a lot of shit about his mic skills (stupid shit) and he still is 2# face of the WWE.

2) I suppose you missed Capitol Punishment and the times that he beated the living crap out of the Big Show and Kane.
The Torture Rack is a new move, nobody reacted to Daniel Bryan Guillotine choke yesterday, and also nobody reacted to Sheamus Cloverleaf Submission, the move needs time to be taken seriously and he makes it look insanely painful.

3) wOW Big News Ezekiel Jackson is a powerhouse, not a ground basis wrestler, what are you expecting him to do? Crossbodies? Kicks in the head? Every variety of pins and submission holds?
Shut up, you need to respect each category, fuck I hate guys that thinks that WWE should only be made with CM Punks and DB's.

I like the diversity in the WWE and Ezekiel Jackson is by far the best powerhouse they have, so this hate thread is plain stupid.
He had his push like some of the guys have, and he now needs to prove that he can be a good champion.
Ezekiel Jackson will be 1# Contender for the WHC in 2012, I can tell you that.

 

[Da Solo]

Just because you lose a match doesn't mean you automatically lost your footing in the WWE. Think logically for a second, do you think they'd really let Christian, the new WHC lose to Jackson, who, as IC, is much lower on the totem pole? And as for Cody, he's probably the most important midcarder on SD at the moment (unless you count Sheamus as a midcarder). And plus his win over Jackson wasn't clean at all, so no harm done, really. Just because he's getting a small push doesn't make him invincible. Look at Miz, he's been jobbing to A-ry for about a month straight and now he's in the running for the new WWE championship. People sometimes have to take a clean loss, it happens (unless your John Cena).

As for Jackson, I'm a big fan. He can wrestle surprisingly well for a big man (His matches against Christian were a good example of that) and he has a dominating aura. I don't mind his mic skill, because he really only talked like, what, once? My only problem is his very iffy Torture Rack. Sometimes it looks devastating, while other times it looks like a giant bouncehouse. That's the only thing he'd need to fix.

 

[Oh Hai Mark]

I'm a big fan as well. Seriously, with that body and that smile - many guys have got over with less than that. They do need to sustain the push however, I really hope they don't do with him what they do with every Mark Henry push up until this current one, which is to drop it suddenly. Sure, Christian's no scrub but someone of his size shouldn't be able to win cleanly over someone like Zeke. The only thing with Zeke is that there doesn't feel like there's much room to move at the moment, as for reasons I'm not sure, he's not quite over enough to be pushed further up. I think he needs to go over in a long feud with someone like Sheamus at this point.

 

[drobs85]

I'm really disappointed that after being pushed very hard and winning the intercontinental title Jackson push seems to have stopped. With successive losses to Christian and Cody it seems now he isn't quite the unstoppable force that had been presented to us. Don't get me wrong I'm not a big fan of his(I think he has the look and that's about it) it's not a "why is Big Zeke not getting the push he deserves?" thread. But this bothers me for two reasons.

1.) It happens too often. Someone gets a push is made to look like the next big thing and then without reason they get jobbed out and made to look like just another guy. Eventually when a guy's getting a push you won't get behind him or believe he's going to make it because odds are within 6 months he'll be back firmly at the bottom of the card. It's happened with countless guys like Dolph Ziggler, they get pushed then are made to look like nobodies,then six months later they get pushed again almost from starch! Instead of doing that why not see the push though(and occasionly when someone asks why the guys not getting over,instead of blaming him, ask if perhaps he's being booked poorly).

2.)He's the IC champ!! Having the IC champ lose on a regular basis makes the title seem even more meaningless than it already is! It's like saying "we put this title on any loser so it doesn't really matter".

Anticipating a point that may be raised. Why do I have a problem with the new WHC going over someone when clearly it makes sense for him to look strong? No problem with Christian beating anyone but my retort would be, surely they could have put him over another face that's not receiving a push right now? Or a guy who the loss wouldn't hurt one bit like Kane.
Anyway thoughts?

Not to mentioned he also lost to Ted Debiase. So basically he lost 3 out of his last four matches. And they were all to much smaller guys. I agree, he was advertised to be the next big force, but unfortunately that's not happening. The main issues with Jackson is that he just can't get over to save his life, his weak moveset, and his lack of mic time.

 

[Wonder]

I don't like Ezekiel Jackson. A year ago, i was impressed by him due to his match with Christian at RR. But now, he just bores me. I hated his matches with Barret at Over The Limit and Capitol Punishment ( this one was a little better, i admit ), and i don't think he has charisma, or mic skills, but he does have time train that, i guess.

And like someone else here said before, he doesn't have much wrestling skills as well. But, i don't agree with that they're doing with him right now. As a Intercontinental Champion, you need so seem credible. Losing week after week, ain't going to do that.

I just hope they put the title on Cody sooner rather than later.

 

[JamJam]

Ehh, I just don't see IT for Jackson. I just don't see him as entertaining. Sure he has an impressive finisher in the Torture Rack and the crowd gets going when he does his power slams but that's about it. Would rather have Rhodes or Dibiase or even Gabriel going for that title.

 

[Bingching]

He just isn't good. He lacks mic skills, charisma and ring skills, even for a big guy. I'm really hoping for Rhodes to take that title away from him, so Cody and Gabriel can have a feud for the title. Man, those would be excellent matches.

 

[Rising Savior]

Let me reply to each problem;
1) Zeke can cut a promo and he doesn't bother me at all, when I see an actor that I don't like I still don't mute the guy because I am a guy that likes the part of storytelling, and he doesn't need to be that good, heck Randy Orton gets a lot of shit about his mic skills (stupid shit) and he still is 2# face of the WWE.2) I suppose you missed Capitol Punishment and the times that he beated the living crap out of the Big Show and Kane.
The Torture Rack is a new move, nobody reacted to Daniel Bryan Guillotine choke yesterday, and also nobody reacted to Sheamus Cloverleaf Submission, the move needs time to be taken seriously and he makes it look insanely painful.3) wOW Big News Ezekiel Jackson is a powerhouse, not a ground basis wrestler, what are you expecting him to do? Crossbodies? Kicks in the head? Every variety of pins and submission holds?
Shut up, you need to respect each category, fuck I hate guys that thinks that WWE should only be made with CM Punks and DB's.I like the diversity in the WWE and Ezekiel Jackson is by far the best powerhouse they have, so this hate thread is plain stupid.
He had his push like some of the guys have, and he now needs to prove that he can be a good champion.Ezekiel Jackson will be 1# Contender for the WHC in 2012, I can tell you that.

Well allow me to respond to your counter argument. You say Zeke cuts good promos well that's your opinion I think his promos are dry and lack intensity. Then you compare bad promos to actors you dislike saying bad lines. Which is like comparing a bad ufc fight to a bad wwe match. No comparison what so ever. Then you say Zeke got a big reaction at
Capitol Punishment I wouldn't know I didn't order that shitty ass ppv. But from what I read and heard the crowd was rather quiet for his match. Then you say he got a big reaction for destroying Big Show anybody would get a big reaction from picking up and slamming the big show and not to mention that happened about two months ago I'm talking about right now. To your third point you say Zeke's a powerhouse last time I checked Sheamus and Wade Barrett were powerhouses and they do a lot more than scoop slams and clotheslines. Then you tell me to shut up because you say I think every wrestler should be like D-bryan and Punk. Here your wrong again because I dislike Zeke you assume I want every wrestler to be a technical genius. Everything I said about Zeke is me calling it like I'm seeing it not me hating him because he's a powerhouse. Obviously you see something in Zeke I don't and we agree to disagree.

 

[FSWWE]

Well allow me to respond to your counter argument. You say Zeke cuts good promos well that's your opinion I think his promos are dry and lack intensity. Then you compare bad promos to actors you dislike saying bad lines. Which is like comparing a bad ufc fight to a bad wwe match. No comparison what so ever. Then you say Zeke got a big reaction at
Capitol Punishment I wouldn't know I didn't order that shitty ass ppv. But from what I read and heard the crowd was rather quiet for his match. Then you say he got a big reaction for destroying Big Show anybody would get a big reaction from picking up and slamming the big show and not to mention that happened about two months ago I'm talking about right now. To your third point you say Zeke's a powerhouse last time I checked Sheamus and Wade Barrett were powerhouses and they do a lot more than scoop slams and clotheslines. Then you tell me to shut up because you say I think every wrestler should be like D-bryan and Punk. Here your wrong again because I dislike Zeke you assume I want every wrestler to be a technical genius. Everything I said about Zeke is me calling it like I'm seeing it not me hating him because he's a powerhouse. Obviously you see something in Zeke I don't and we agree to disagree.

He has his style at promos, everybody has. Some are appealing to everybody, other don't.
If you noticed last night, he had a terrific match with Christian in which the crowd was pretty over when he started to gain some momentum and when he entered in the ring.
Sure he isn't as over as a main eventer, but he is over to be IC CHAMPION.

Sheamus and Wade Barrett aren't powerhouses, they are at the same level as Randy Orton, like a mix.
Ezekiel Jackson, Mark Henry, Khali, Big Show, Kane, Mason Ryan and Skip SHeffield are the only true powerhouses in the WWE, like Super Heavyweights you see?

He has the looks of a champion, and a believable one, a large black guy with an arm that looks like an hammer, if he had a "real" fight with Christian he would kill him, so he makes a believable champion.
His mic skills need some work, yes a lot of work, but Khali is a former world champion and his english is worse than mine and he is an awful wrestler.
He had a great match at Friday, and if you don't see the PPV how the hell can you know if the guys is good or not?
Did you still watch WWE? :S

 

[SomeAreSet]

2 losses to Cody Rhodes and Christian doesn't necessarily mean they're burying him.He can easily get back on the winning path next week.Let's say Rhodes beats him and then Rhodes challenges him to a title match,and Big Zeke beats Rhodes in the title match.He'd still come out looking like the stronger guy and the more deserving champion.Christian beating Zeke was a way of making Christian look stronger,since he won the World Title in the most cowardly fashion.Besides,I can't think of any faces on Smackdown that doesn't have anything going on,and Christian beating a jobber wouldn't make him look stronger.

I think Big Zeke's next in line to have a feud with Mark Henry,since he's the biggest guy on the roster now that both Big Show and Kane are gone.It wouldn't be the most exciting matches in the world,but if Zeke wins then he'll look stronger than ever.

It's the WWE.A wrestler can't gain momentum without stopping another wrestler's momentum.

 

[The Saviour]

Well some guys here are saying that they don't buy into Christain, a much smaller guy beating Big Zeke. I say that you weren't complaining when Hogan beat Andre. The thing is that it all about 'suspending belief' in pro wrestling its what many call as the golden rule.
Now onto the thread, I think WWE are going in a bit of a wrong direction with Big Zeke, I can take his loss to Christain, who is the freaking WORLD CHAMPION and also the fact that Cody didn't beat him clean, but WWE need to give him more momentum before he's considered as a legitimate title contender at the top level, he needs to beat guys like Ted Dibiase, hell he could be the man that finally stops the rampage of Mark Henry- it could be an interesting feud if booked properly

 

[Rising Savior]

He has his style at promos, everybody has. Some are appealing to everybody, other don't. If you noticed last night, he had a terrific match with Christian in which the crowd was pretty over when he started to gain some momentum and when he entered in the ring. Sure he isn't as over as a main eventer, but he is over to be IC CHAMPION. Sheamus and Wade Barrett aren't powerhouses, they are at the same level as Randy Orton, like a mix. Ezekiel Jackson, Mark Henry, Khali, Big Show, Kane, Mason Ryan and Skip SHeffield are the only true powerhouses in the WWE, like Super Heavyweights you see?He has the looks of a champion, and a believable one, a large black guy with an arm that looks like an hammer, if he had a "real" fight with Christian he would kill him, so he makes a believable champion. His mic skills need some work, yes a lot of work, but Khali is a former world champion and his english is worse than mine and he is an awful wrestler. He had a great match at Friday, and if you don't see the PPV how the hell can you know if the guys is good or not?Did you still watch WWE? :S

I'm not trying to be rude offensive or anything like that but your bias. I'm assuming you live in south america because what your profile says and Ezekiel Jackson is also from South America that's why your defending him so much. Am I correct? You say Zekes promos have style when they come off dry and they really seem forced to be honest. Again back to Zekes reaction their little to none (just watched his match vs Christian). I'd take back saying Barrett is a powerhouse but Sheamus definitely is we're talking about 6'6 280. Not to mention the majority of powerhouses on your list suck. Then you say Zeke would destroy Christian in real life. Newsflash it's pro wrestling! That's a pointless statement. You bring up Khali being world champion. Another pointless statement. You say his match with Christian was terrific when it was nothing more than an average 6 minute tv match. Then you say I don't watch wwe because I didn't see his match with
Wade at Capitol punishment which is simply ludicrous because I've seen a ton of his
matches on smackdown. Face it my friend Zeke isn't as good as you think he is.

 

[Theo Mays]

Big Zeke could be something special if booked right. They need to let Zeke do more than just clotheslines and body slams. Sure he isn't the best inside the ring, but he is a big guy and I'm sure he can add some more power moves to his guy. Jackson has intensity that is nearly unmatched. He is just so intense in the ring and that is something the fans can get behind. I honestly believe that Vince is relieving Ahmad Johnson through Ezekiel Jackson. Ahmad could have been a superstar had he stayed healthy and Zeke is the closest thing to Ahmad Johnson that the WWE has had.

Right now they just seem to have Jackson in limbo. Is he a guy they trust to be a future main eventer or is he just a career midcard guy? Some nights Zeke seems to be entertaining (I look at his match with Dibiase) and other nights he is just meh (looking at his match with Barrett at Capitol Punishment). Right now I think it is best to let Zeke work on his mic skills and give him a good run as champ to solidify his spot on the card.

 

[FSWWE]

I'm not trying to be rude offensive or anything like that but your bias. I'm assuming you live in south america because what your profile says and Ezekiel Jackson is also from South America that's why your defending him so much. Am I correct?

Oh My God!! Portugal is a country, what are you? I'm defending Zeke because you are shitting on him with no "ph"ucking reason...

You say Zekes promos have style when they come off dry and they really seem forced to be honest. Again back to Zekes reaction their little to none (just watched his match vs Christian). I'd take back saying Barrett is a powerhouse but Sheamus definitely is we're talking about 6'6 280. Not to mention the majority of powerhouses on your list suck. Then you say Zeke would destroy Christian in real life. Newsflash it's pro wrestling! That's a pointless statement. You bring up Khali being world champion. Another pointless statement. You say his match with Christian was terrific when it was nothing more than an average 6 minute tv match. Then you say I don't watch wwe because I didn't see his match with
Wade at Capitol punishment which is simply ludicrous because I've seen a ton of his matches on smackdown. Face it my friend Zeke isn't as good as you think he is.

A lot of guys get over with half of his mic skills (John Morrison, Umaga, The Great Khali, heck Sin Cara and the list could go on and on), him being a powerhouse with a look and a gimmick of a proper powerhouse (The Personification of Domination) and arms bigger than sledgehammers.
He doesn't need more than a 3 star tv matches to get over, actually is very good to receive a push.
The example of The Great Khali is because he was built as a powerhouse, a force, destroying everything he could and it was BELIEVABLE, so if Ezekiel Jackson one day freaks out and starts to attack Randy Orton and beat the living crap out of him, we won't mind, because it looks like he could do in real life, but if you saw Heath Slater beating the crap out of Orton, you would be like "WTF?"

You don't watch the WWE, you are saying that he has no reaction, I was looking for some videos to prove that he is well over for a midcard, making you look like a stupid.

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He doesn't need to be as over as Randy Orton to be IC Champion, he is pretty well over, you are just hating with no reason, he had 3 star matches, but he is a big guy, is hard to work with and to do all the flip and flops like the others.
He is like in the TOP 3 of the best powerhouses (that are build like that) in the WWE, right now!!

Sheamus is not build as a guy that has only strength like Big Zeke, you hate for no reason and you don't even give good replies to explain your point!
If you hate, just because you hate, it is alright, I hate R-Truth and people love him, but I just hate to see it, we can have any kinda of opinion, but you say that he isn't over (with no proof), you say that he has bad matches (you have too look it as a powerhouse category to matches, not a CM Punk style)

 

[jungledeano]

I like Jackson, I really do. As a power house, he's pretty good at what he does. But I think the problem is that he just isn't doing anything at the moment. If I remember rightly, he was getting pops when he was fueding with the Corre and during his entrances for CP and OTL he got some decent pops too. For me, I'd like to see him go into a fued with Mark Henry at some point, probably after SummerSlam. It'll give Jackson something to do and having Henry in a title chase will only help his character. Plus, I'd like to see a face power house go up against a heel power house.

 

[Nate DaMac]

There's nothing wrong with Big Zeke in the ring. He's not going to give you a technical masterpiece, he's not that type of guy. But he's honestly one of the better big men I've seen in a while. I'd put him just slightly behind Sheamus. The multiple bodyslams leading into the Torture Rack is a solid, new way to finish a match. I like things that are a bit different than the norm.

I really don't see a huge issue with his booking. He's had a couple of successful title defenses, now I just want to see him put into a feud again. If he drops the title with no build at all, then I will be pretty pissed off. That's just shitty booking. But having him lose under bullshit circumstances to Cody and jobbing for the World Champion in Christian is not a big deal. He had a good showing, he came away looking good.

I see a lot in Zeke's future, but they have to book him to be more than just a big guy with a belt. He needs to be in a feud.

 

[Pedigree1]

Cody needs that title asap!! Zeke is just not that good! He looks like a freak of nature but thats about it.. Cant cut a promo has two moves clothesline slams thats about it!! His torture rack gets little reaction Rhodes does need that title to further his angle right now/

 

[ratedrdestiny]

I don't mind Zeke. Really though i think he needs a heel turn. There is nothing about him that really connects him to the crowd so why not turn him against the crowd?