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Eric Bischoff or Paul Heyman?

Eric Bischoff or Paul Heyman?

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Back in the mid 1990's, Eric Bischoff was a head producer in WCW. While Paul Heyman was the figure head of ECW. Both had on-screen roles like how WWF/E chairman Vince McMahon had at the announce table with Jerry "The King" Lawler. And both Bischoff & Heyman were thorn's in the side of McMahon for a while with their respective brand idea's and concept's. Which Vince McMahon couldn't help but bite their style's during the infamous "Monday Night War's".

WCW had the nWo, the Four Horsemen, wrestler's from Japan. While ECW had the stars from Japan first, the Crusierweights, and of course the hardcore extreme action! But who really helped make a difference in that modern era in wrestling between Eric Bischoff & Paul Heyman?

Both men ended working for Vince McMahon in the past (Heyman currently). And are still involved in wrestling after the death of their brands.
 
I think during the Monday night wars Paul Heyman/ECW had a big influence on the direction WWF went. I'm not sure the WWF would have won out without the ECW existing. At the start of the Monday night wars you had gimmick characters like Issac Yankem(Kane), Sparky Plug, and was still trapped kind of in the 80s. Royal Rumble happened and Steve Austin was allowed to be Steve Austin. His promos were inspired by his time in ECW, and the entire WWF took off on it with Sunny/Sable/DX et all.

That being said, your question is about the current product I believe. I'd have to say it is closer to what WCW was. WCW got slammed with Standards and Practices.. They couldn't be like WWF in the attitude era/ECW. WWE is PG now, and more like WCW in that aspect. WCW didn't let many stars grow and get over with the crowd. WWE currently kills stars who start getting over like Mr.Kennedy, Alex Riley, Zack Ryder to name a few which could have broke out. They feed people to Cena and the show has been focused around Cena longer than the WWF was focused around Hogan in the 80s. We are defiantly in a stale period of wrestling currently. WWE currently might be worse than what WCW was in 2000-2001.
 
Bischoff by a large margin.

ECW was never as big as people now like to pretend it was, and it wasn't so for a good reason. Bischoff turned WCW from a joke into the number one wrestling company in the world, changing the way Vince ran the WWF in the process
 
Bischoff, without question. Even if it were true that WWE's Attitude Era was inspired by ECW, It took WCW's success to force the WWF to change their program to begin with.

Whether or not WWE was inspired by ECW in the late 90s is a questionable argument itself. Even Jim Cornette said in a shoot that Vince NEVER watched ECW, even at the point when they were working with ECW in 97. As far as international talent, ECW is credited for popularizing it in America, but WCW had joint PPVs with New Japan from 1991-93. And Bischoff organized a WCW joint PPV with AAA (the top Mexican promotion along with CMLL) in 1994. I think ECW started using the luchadors in 95, and when WCW was working with New Japan, Heyman wasn't even running ECW yet.
 
Heyman did a lot with very little and it's scary to think what he could have done with real backing. Eric had a lot at his disposal to prove he had only 2 tricks after that WCW was putty in the WWF's hands Eric's big mistake was trying to put the WWF out of business if not for that or the AOL/TW merger WCW would still exist. If Heyman had more solid backing ECW would still be around...
 
Heyman did a lot with very little and it's scary to think what he could have done with real backing. Eric had a lot at his disposal to prove he had only 2 tricks after that WCW was putty in the WWF's hands Eric's big mistake was trying to put the WWF out of business if not for that or the AOL/TW merger WCW would still exist. If Heyman had more solid backing ECW would still be around...

Tricks Bischoff had.

- Cut costs by running less live shows and moving to Disney
- Increase sponsorship and turn a company profit by partnering up with Disney and making WCW a more presentable brand
- Go live in a prime time slot
- The nWo angle
- Address your rivals on-air and actively state this is a competition between you
- Switch mainstream pro-wrestling to a more mature audience
- Cruiserweights

That's just off the top of my head too, he was much more than just a two trick pony
 
Eric Bischoff.

WCW was a lot bigger than ECW. While at WCW, WWE got better throught competiton and once he went to WWE, he helped make the product better through methods he used during his time at WCW.

Paul Heyman and ECW were still a driving force but I don't think they compare to Bischoff and WCW.
 
Paul Heyman. He did a a lot with very little while Bischoff was given the keys to the kingdom. Heyman had to work on a budget while Bischoff bought guys when Ted Turner gave him access to his money. Just about everything Bischoff did was a rip off of someone else(including the nWo angle). WCW night have been bigger but if Heyman had just as much money as Bischoff was allowed to work with WCW would have been out of business a lot earlier.

True, but remember that while Heyman lacked money and kept his company going for a long time on a shoestring, Bischoff had the luxury of unlimited funds to do whatever he wanted. It was reported by the Wall Street Journal that during it's period of highest TV ratings, WCW was losing between $60-80 million dollars a year; they stayed in operation because they had the deep pockets of Time-Warner to keep them going. When the mega-corporation decided to stop throwing good money after bad, Bischoff wasn't looking so smart anymore.

As to what Heyman and Bischoff accomplished on the creative end, I suppose it's up to each of us to decide which one was more effective. But comparing WCW to ECW is akin to having your local garage band declaring war on the London Philharmonic Symphony.
All great points!! I tried to rep you but it says I must spread the rep around.
 
ECW was never as big as people now like to pretend it was, and it wasn't so for a good reason. Bischoff turned WCW from a joke into the number one wrestling company in the world, changing the way Vince ran the WWF in the process

True, but remember that while Heyman lacked money and kept his company going for a long time on a shoestring, Bischoff had the luxury of unlimited funds to do whatever he wanted. It was reported by the Wall Street Journal that during it's period of highest TV ratings, WCW was losing between $60-80 million dollars a year; they stayed in operation because they had the deep pockets of Time-Warner to keep them going. When the mega-corporation decided to stop throwing good money after bad, Bischoff wasn't looking so smart anymore.

As to what Heyman and Bischoff accomplished on the creative end, I suppose it's up to each of us to decide which one was more effective. But comparing WCW to ECW is akin to having your local garage band declaring war on the London Philharmonic Symphony.
 
That's a difficult question, as Eric Bischoff had a higher profile company and a bigger budget to work with. Paul Heyman built ECW up from almost nothing and never had the financial resources WWF or WCW had, but he created an alternative to the Big Two. If Paul Heyman got put in charge of WCW instead of Bischoff, he probably would have done better in the position than 'Easy E' did. Conversely, if Eric Bischoff had been running ECW, he wouldn't have had a clue what to do with them. His game plan in WCW was to copy what WWF was doing and spend HUGE amounts of money buying up talent.
 
Heyman did a lot with very little and it's scary to think what he could have done with real backing. Eric had a lot at his disposal to prove he had only 2 tricks after that WCW was putty in the WWF's hands Eric's big mistake was trying to put the WWF out of business if not for that or the AOL/TW merger WCW would still exist. If Heyman had more solid backing ECW would still be around...



ECW could have been on CBS at 9pm Sundays after 60 minutes and would have ended up just like WCW. Like Cornette said, they reached a point where they were had to try and outdo themselves every time out. Eventually they would have numbed the wrestling audience to hardcore wrestling for good, to the point where guys would have to run each other over with cars to get a reaction out of people.
Once the novelty wore off people would have left ECW in droves.

Paul Heyman used to compare ECW to the Grunge Rock movement of the 90s. Now it's 2012 and Grunge Rock isn't very popular anymore.
 
I'd say Heyman. Both WcW and WWF borrowed from Heyman's Idea's and signed a lot of his talent. While yes, Heyman didn't have either company's million dollar production and budget, he made up for it with a vivid imagination and world class talent. While I agree with another poster that said, people like to pretend ECW was bigger than it was, What made ECW big was the fact that that they inspired the two big North American companies to re-invent themselves. ECW is to wrestling what Chuck Berry is to Rock and Roll. Would the Rolling Stones, Led Zepplin, Elvis Presley and Hendrix be the icons they are if not for Berry's influence? Would WWE and WCW be as good in the 90's if they didn't take a lot of ECW's idea's and talent and Heyman's influence. Whether you agree or not...that's how I see it.
 
Just to add to this thread, Bischoff gets too much credit for the nWo. On the Monday Night Wars DvD, it is stated that Eazy-E took the idea from New Japan Pro Wrestling. Chono who was a member of the nWo was actually in the original group in japan with Sonny Ono. Bischoff took ideas from NJPW and ECW and had the bank roll to offer ECW guys a better opportunity to feed their families.
Also, Bischoff likes to take credit for the Lucha Libre style in North America, but guys like Rey Mysterio and Juventud started in ECW first. A better question would be: Where would WcW and WWE be today if not for Paul Heyman?
 
I guess it depends on the promotions situation. Both bring alot to the table in different ways. The one knock on Bischoff is for his storylines to appeal to the majority of the audience he needs particular talent. Heyman is a creative genius and doesn't need alot of talent to deal with to get the company so far. If you want a promotion to succeed nationally Bischoff is your guy. If you want your promotion to get on the right track from a creative standpoint Heyman is your guy. If these two could patch up whatever issues they have with one another as a unit they could take ROH and merge it with TNA and within five years be a highly profitable company and PPV buys would triple and they could compete with WWE in certain markets!
 
Bischoff by a large margin.

ECW was never as big as people now like to pretend it was, and it wasn't so for a good reason. Bischoff turned WCW from a joke into the number one wrestling company in the world, changing the way Vince ran the WWF in the process

Though one could argue that WCW got really big because of the unlimited funds from Ted Turner. Paul Heyman never had the financial resources Bishoff had in his disposal and even without it ECW lasted almost as long as Bishoff Era-WCW.

In terms of finances both Bishoff and Heyman were pretty bad. Bishoff convinced Ted Turner to give iron clad contract and spent huge on unnecessary that eventually crippled the brand. Heyman was just bad at managing what little money he had.
 
Bischoff had more success...by a large margin. ECW had a cult following, they were never as big a player nationally as WCW or WWE. It's debatable if they were as big in the mid 90s as TNA is today (maybe better thought of by fans, more original programming, but in terms of ratings, attendance, etc, was ECW really any bigger than TNA today ??)

In terms of creativity however I think its Heyman...by a large margin. Bischoff rose to power in WCW at a time that the company was at its lowest point. Amazingly he came this close to making Sid World Champion which probably would have set him back light years. However, going with Flair as champ started bringing back casual fans and some of the lost NWA fans, wrestling fans that were loyal to the brand and never cared for WWE. Reigniting Flair-Steamboat gave WCW another shot in the arm numbers wise, although the total wrestling audience was way down at this time (the middle of WWE's New Generation Era, probably the lowest point they've been at during Vince Jr's tenure). Having Flair back however gave Bischoff the ability to sign Hogan & Savage. Flair personally recruited Hogan to come in and made numerous concessions storyline wise to get Hogan on board for a long term deal. He was instrumental in bringing in Savage as well.

Although NWA fans never took to Hogan and he never generated the attention WCW wanted from him initially they did see another substantial rise in their numbers, now basically equal or very close to WWE. Of course this set the stage for the NWO angle and the explosion was on.

It is fair to criticize Bischoff for a lack of originality. Did he turn to Flair in 93 because he realized his value to the older audience or was it the lack of star power on his roster after firing his Sid ? I'll give him a pass on that one. Still, Bishcoff's WCW 94-96 made a lot of $$ reviving old WWE feuds (Flair-Hogan, Flair-Savage) and old NWA feuds (Sting vs Horsemen). Supposedly Bischoff had seen the NWO angle played out in New Japan before trying it in the states. Now obviously WCW was doing well enough in the ratings and money wise to convince Nash & Hall as well as Lex Luger to jump ship. Still, it was the NWO angle (apparently not an original idea) that really put the company on a fast track to its best period of success since it was still Jim Crockett Jr's NWA in the mid 80s. His four biggest angles from this period were effectively re do's of Vince, Crockett, & New Japan.

Heyman in ECW created a completely different style of pro wrestling television, taking the gritty, more adult, more violent old school NWA of the 80s and turning it up several notches. His programming was a lot of things, good and bad, and yes it created a dangerous environment for the wrestlers and enabled a lot of guys with little or no talent to become successful, at least short term, due to their ability to perform those crazy "hardcore" spots in matches. Where Bischoff succeeded with proven name talent (proven names that were almost exclusively made famous by Crockett & McMahon) re hashing previously done storylines, Heyman created something totally original, and out of nowhere created a niche market for his product. Wether it was bad business decissions, the company becoming boring because they couldnt adapt and modify their style, or some various other reason, ECW was not viable long term, but Heyman created something fresh & original.

Wrestling by it's nature is often repetitive because it's a soap opera and there are so many ways to essentially tell the same stotries over & over. Vince McMahon created Demolition as cheap copy of the more popular Road Warriors from the NWA. Verne Gagne and the AWA created The Midnight Rockers as copies of the ultra popular Rock & Rol Express (the Rockers were used much the same way in WWE). There have been stories that the "Million Dollar Man" gimmick was in part a take off on the jet flyin, wealthy, "Nature Boy" persona popularized by Ric Flair. Vince created the dynamic of the heel tag team Hart Foundation with their overbearing southern manager Jimmy Hart vs the squeakly clean kid friendly British Bulldogs to copy the success the Mid South and later the NWA had with the heel tag team Midnight Express and their overbearing southern manager Jim Cornette vs the squeaky clean teeny bopper Rock & Roll Express. Vince spent a lot of time in the 80s watching his competition and trying to replicate their successful ideas. Vince also built his company in the 80s not on the backs of home grown talent discovered and promoted by WWE but on established wrestling stars well known to large portions of the audience, guys who had perfected their trade elsewere and been very successful. Greg Valentine & Roddy Piper were top stars in the NWA before they ever signed with Vince. Ted DiBiase was one of the biggest stars in the Mid South region. Curt Henning was AWA World Champion. Randy Savage and Liz were playing a near identical act in Mid South before coming to WWE. Two of Savage's best early feuds were against Tito Santana & Ricky Steamboat, both NWA stars (Steamboat headlined at the Meadowlands vs Ric Flair a year before he signed with WWE). Shawn Michaels was a tag champ in the AWA, Harley Race was seven time NWA champion, and of course Hogan was headlining vs AWA Champ Nick Bockwinkle before he joined. Dont forget Rick Rude who cut his teeth in Texas then became "Ravishing" in the NWA before he joined WWE. These were the guys that he built the foundation of his company for two decades on, I dont even have to mention Luger, Flair, Legion of Doom, Scott Hall, Vader, all headliners elsewhere before joining WWE. Certainly Vince proved very creative in his promotional tactics, his use of TV production values and pioneering the PPV field. As a head promoter, Vince relied heavily on other people's talent and storylines to be successfull. Bischoff, who also significantly upgraded production values and appearance in WCW, was very similair in that context to Vince.

Heyman's problems have always related to his reputation of being hard to work with, a guy who knows what he thinks is right, isnt afraid to say it or defend it, and doesnt always feel the need to go along with ideas he dislikes if he doesnt want to. How much of that is overblowm hyperbole and how much is true (if any) is hard to say. Bischoff's problem was getting too close to certain talent which caused him to make bad booking decissions, not pushing through with certain storylines or burying talent that was over with crowds but not part of his "in crew". Bischoff also had a reputation for being antaganistic towards much of the talent, at least the ones who werent part of his "buddy list". Like Heyman, he was an excellent on screen character. Although Heyman was always a take off on Jim Cornette he was very good. Bischoff as an onscreen character was an original, the first full time heel boss. For many years in televised wrestling authority figures were either good guys trying to fight off heels or witless morons unwittingly duped by heels (but they were good guys, just not always real bright). Jim Crockett and Bob Giegel, Jack Tunney, WCW Commisioner Nick Bockwinkle, all portrayed as good guys. Bischoff was the first full time boss, on TV full time, as a total heel, AND HE WAS GREAT. Stripping The Steiners of the tag titles, telling referee Randy Anderson's kids that he was fired, beating up Ric Flair's son while the NWO held back his wife, as an on screen jerk few guys in the last 20 years generated the kind of heel heat EZ E did. On the mic he was one step below gold. the whole Mr McMahon character was just another in a long line of storylines and characters that Vince McMahon stole from another wrestling company. He did it great, dont get me wrong, and as a promoter he did it better than Bischoff because Vince understood in the end his character has to lose or the audience wont watch (too many times it seemed as if EZ E & NWO triumphed without any consequences, it turned off the audience). Creating the whole "Evil boss" dynamic is the one thing truly visionary that Bischoff did.

Overall, who was better depends on how you want to judge them, by what standard. Bischoff had an established company with ties to a large, loyal fan base and a national TV contract that gave him a platform to promote nationaly toe to toe vs WWE, plus he had the bankroll to sign Flair, Hogan, Savage, Nash, Hall et all. Still, you cant deny he was more sucessful longer running a company than Heyman. Heyman howver re invented the product, creating a whole niche audience, filling a void that previoulsy no one knew existed. Bishcoff essentially did in WCW what Vince McMahon did in the 80s with WWE but he wasnt a good enough business man to keep it going. Heyman created an entire business out of nothing and for awhile made it successfull. Like Bischoff bad financial management doomed him in the end. As on screen characters they were both very good but I'll give the nod to EZ E because his character was more original, and inspired the whole Mr McMahon persona that is still around today in WWE.

If you're judging just by financial success and length of success as heads of company I'd still pick Bishcoff. If you're judging more on creativity and originality it's Heyman.
 
Just about everything Bischoff did was a rip off of someone else(including the nWo angle).

Why do people never use this supposed torpedo when talking about McMahon?

The initial idea of the nWo (invasion) was surely a ripoff, but that gimmick evolved so far beyond the invasion idea that to call the nwo a pure rip-off is silly. The nwo and Bischoff served as templates for the Mr. McMahon gimmick and the corporation. Things like stripping tag titles were copied directly from WCW.
 
Well, Eric had the biggest impact short term, as he was at the helm when WCW came closer than anything else has to taking on WWF/E longterm, but Heyman is probably the greater of the two in terms of total body of work. Eric had two huge advantages going into his major success...the first was the money that Turner was willing to pour into production of the product.....the second was having the amazing opportunity to turn wrestlings greatest face into wrestlings best heel ie. the hogan NWO turn....The contracts were different back then so it looked like wwe wrestlers were actually taking over, and btw i was really fun to watch.....BUUUT so was ECW, at the time they were doing sooo much with sooo little. Heyman had the ultimate misfortune of not being able to retain any of the talent he was able to mold/discover/give a platform to excel. As wrestling minds go, Heyman trumps Eric to some extent. As an executive/business person, it goes Eric's way. Here is the ultimate test for me - now, ten years after each of their high points in the business, I still get excited/love/hate seeing Heyman, and when Eric is on tv. I feel nothing.....long term, its Heyman all the way....i promise.
 
This depends on how you look at things.

Vince
Obviously when push comes to shove Vince Mcmahon knows sports entertainment. He knows how to book matches and create spectacles that draw an audience in. Everyone has their opinion and most people believe they know more than Vince or could steer the WWE ship in a better direction, but those are the ones that haven't worked a day in this business. It's like a couch potato telling Albert Pujols how to hit a baseball.

Eric
Eric is a business man. I don't see the same level of passion for wrestling as I see in Vince, but that doesn't discredit him though. Eric had tons of money at his disposal and the NWO idea was terrific. It in itself changed the face of wrestling. Indirectly it pushed Vince to embrace change by creating the employee boss feud and ultimately led to their demise. Eric had good ideas, but only recycled WWE and ECW talent. He never created anything of his own. After Vince began working more closely with ECW and establishing new characters and an edgier product, less and less wrestlers left WWE & ECW or WCW, thus cutting off Eric's ability to use former talent.

Paul
Great storyline line guy, great character development, great sense of finding talent, and passionate about the industry. Doesn't know the first thing about running a business though. If Paul could control his ego and know his limits he'd do wonders for the business. I always hoped Heyman would soften his ego and come back to the WWE in a creative role. ECW was never real competition because their product was completely different then the other giants. It was more of an alternative then direct competition. Paul did a fabulous job creating characters and elevating the talent. ECW also established an edgier product that opened the eyes of a different demographic that Vince Mcmahon later conquered. Of the 3 big companies (WCW,WWE,ECW) the wrestlers seemed to enjoy their time in ECW more than any of the others (except for not being paid). The camaraderie they had was very unique.

Now in all honesty all three of these guys helped to mold, shape, and propel the industry to where it is today. Individually they had the vision and ability to create change and capture viewers. Only Vince had the longevity and experience to keep it going, but all three men contributed to the industry in so many ways. We'll probably never experience anything like we did in the 90's when all three of these guys were at their peak.
 
I don't understand these people on here that like to talk about how Paul Heyman "built ECW up out of nothing." You need to understand, ECW was NEVER built up! It was nothing before he came along, while he was promoting it, and remains nothing now. In a few years people will be talking about the rise and fall of ROH and say the same things "Oh, what a fall from grace." Like ECW, you can't fall if you never got off the ground to start with.

BTW, the answer to the post question is Eric Bischoff.
 
People are just different. Guys like me are a bit of a niche demographic. Smoke herb, listen to Pantera, love gory b-rated horror movies, love b-rated martial arts action movies, Sega>Nintendo. It was like Paul Heyman made his wrestling show garnered towards me specifically with the characters, storylines, music, and presentation style. I never liked ECW because it was better, it was just more my style. That style came from Paul Heyman.

With sound financial backing/management ECW would have been much bigger than they were. They never would have achieved WWF levels of popularity, but there was more of an audience out there that would have been interested in ECW had it just been more available to them. Pantera topped the Billboard charts with a #1 selling album in america, and packed 15-25,000 people inside arenas any time they played, and there music was as extreme as it gets. ECW could have appealed to a brand of people that didn't typically watch pro wrestling at all. As big as it was, it was still a niche crowd. They only would have grown so much with that style. Too many haters.
 
I don't understand these people on here that like to talk about how Paul Heyman "built ECW up out of nothing." You need to understand, ECW was NEVER built up! It was nothing before he came along, while he was promoting it, and remains nothing now. In a few years people will be talking about the rise and fall of ROH and say the same things "Oh, what a fall from grace." Like ECW, you can't fall if you never got off the ground to start with.

BTW, the answer to the post question is Eric Bischoff.

In the same vein, I don't get the people who act like Bischoff was handed the keys to a Ferrari and wrecked it. When Bischoff took over WCW it was wallowing. Much of the original NWA/WCW audience had gone away. They were doing terrible ppv numbers, low house show numbers, low tv ratings, etc. The ppv before Hogan's debut drew 4,000 people! Starrcade 1993, headlined by Vader vs Flair had only 8000. You keep backtracking through 1993 and you see numbers like 6, 5, 7, etc. TV tapings were obviously worse as the Disney studio could only hold a few thousand. Contrast that to the WWF, who in a horrible year were doing 15+.

WCW was no Ferrari when Bischoff got control. He turned it into the Ferrari it became.

Bischoff was overrated for awhile during his years in WCW but in recent history it has become so cool to act like he was just a moron who got lucky with Ted Turner's money that he's now underrated.
 
For anyone that thinks VKM is more about wrestling than EB has been in RVD's stash again. Bischoff has always been about the wrestling and not so much about the "entertainment" aspect. Just take a look at Raw vs Impact and one show is more about entertainment and the other is strictly about wrestling. People can talk about the ratings which is a fair point but the contrast is VKM believes he has a show that involves wrestling where as Bischoff produces a wrestling show. From a storyline to quality wrestling weekly-PPv's Bischoff is better than VKM. VKM promotes guys based off of weekly merchandise sales where Bisch promotes talent based off of their actual talent and who he thinks in the future will be great for the company. Anyone that wants to debate about who is better at storylines then just take a look at the success Bisch has had as producer of other shows and take a look at VKM's lack of success when he strays away from the WWE Product!
 
Paul Heyman, hands down, i can go on and on about the WCW and ECW, but in my opinion, Bischoff got really lucky with the NWO angle, because i don't think he was going anywhere, but he had the NWO and it was a success, and then he blew it, he tried to make the entire WCW roster NWO members, he turned the company into two diferent versions of the NWO, while Heyman was an original, an innovator, and did things that no one else was doing at the time, let's not go too far, both of them where working for the WWE for sometime, Bischoff was running Raw and Heyman was running Smackdown in the same era, if my memory is correct, during that time Smackdown was killing Raw, they had better angles, more quality matches and far better storylines even if Raw had the much better superstars, Smackdown was far better with less popular superstars, and when the WWE added their version of ECW to the mix, and even if it was only a one hour show, and they had only rejects from Raw and Smackdown, during Heyman's time it was great, after Heyman left, the WWE didn't know what to do with the show, so in conclusion, Heymas is far better than Bischoff........
 
Paul Heyman, hands down, i can go on and on about the WCW and ECW, but in my opinion, Bischoff got really lucky with the NWO angle, because i don't think he was going anywhere, but he had the NWO and it was a success, and then he blew it, he tried to make the entire WCW roster NWO members, he turned the company into two diferent versions of the NWO, while Heyman was an original, an innovator, and did things that no one else was doing at the time, let's not go too far, both of them where working for the WWE for sometime, Bischoff was running Raw and Heyman was running Smackdown in the same era, if my memory is correct, during that time Smackdown was killing Raw, they had better angles, more quality matches and far better storylines even if Raw had the much better superstars, Smackdown was far better with less popular superstars, and when the WWE added their version of ECW to the mix, and even if it was only a one hour show, and they had only rejects from Raw and Smackdown, during Heyman's time it was great, after Heyman left, the WWE didn't know what to do with the show, so in conclusion, Heymas is far better than Bischoff........

Eric Bischoff was just an on screen character in WWE. He had nothing to do with Raw's storylines or Smackdown's. And Heyman was the lead writer on SD when the two brands were most competitive, but people fail to mention this was during the time Hulk Hogan was there as the top guy. Heyman also had limited control over WWE's ECW. This was one of the reasons he left WWE in 2006.
 

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