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Does the Draft this Monday really matter?

mont3818

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I ask this because of reasons like:

Miz & Morrison on ECW roster who won the World Tag Team Champions from RAW. Then they feuded with Carlito & Primo from... SMACKDOWN.

The few weeks leading up to WM25 on every show there has been practically an orgy of 6-man tag matches and special tag matches from all the members in the MITB match (including athletes from all three brands).

Nobody has asked why Kofi Kingston has made TWO Smackdown appearences for no reason at all only to lose in those matches.

I'm not even sure where the World Heavyweight Title "belongs" anymore. It's been defended on Raw and Smackdown (this Friday) recently.

...just the name a few reasons.


So whats the point really? How is this very much different from having three brands? Seems like one big illusion to me. I'm not complaining, just pointing it out. ^_^
 
thats truee
its annoying when we have to see people from ECW on RAW and people from Smackdown on raw because people who watch raw just wanna see people on the raw roster
and those tag matches get really annoying what they do it they figure ok this guy is feuding with this guy and this guy is feuding with this guy so lets put them together and make a tag match and fans will love it even though its stupid
they always do this
look at the late 90s i dont think we ever well maybe VERY rarely saw this happen
because we had tag teams and actual tag team division
with teams like New Age Outlaws, Legion Of Doom, Kane and Mankind (yes they were actually a team and held the tag belts, Owen hart and Jeff Jarrett, Acolytes (farooq and bradshaw), Hardyz, Edge and Christian and as time went on we got teams like the Dudleyz.
Today we have... miz and morrison, cryme time, and the colons.... thats really it
wow
some tag division they should just get rid of the tag belts because thats the only teams they have
wwe (wwf) was much better back in the late 90s early 2000s they should just get rid of this whole brand extension its pointless
and another thing stop having so many shows a week raw, ecw, smackdown, and now superstars just have like 2 shows
raw and superstars get rid of ecw it sucks and get rid of smackdown its boringggggg
when was the last time something exciting actually even happened on a smackdown can you remember? i cant
I just wish if they're gonna have a draft just stick with it and stop having everyone jump around from show to show and say OOO REPRESENTING SMACKDOWN TONIGHT WE HAVE Vladimir Kozlov.. nobody caresss kozlovs match can wait for friday night on smackdown where he belongs
:bringit:
 
It only matters if they make a point to keep the brands seperated.
Like Mont said Miz and Morrison are ECW and they wrestle more on the other 2 shows than they do on their home brand.
Keeping the brands seperated gives the illusion of the old WCW,WWF,ECW era.

So to answer the question if it matters?
Only if the wrestlers become brand exclusives.
 
Yeah I totally agree. I liked it better when the roster split 1st happened. The champions went to both shows. (Before ECW was remade). Then they give us 2 tag belts, just to take 1 away. Then a Divas belt so that anorexic bite in the ass McCool could act like a champion for a minute. And now 2 world titles. I understand that 1 though. I think people would get tired of HHH vs. Cena for the title 36 months in a row! LOL. 1 world title would put so much more meaning to the IC and US titles anyway. ECW could stay like an upstart type thing I guess. Just take it off Sthwagger. He SUCKS. I seen him in Champaign vs. Dreamer at a house show. Dreamer actually looked good and carried the match. Hard to believe but true. I don't think there's many more matches they can come up with we haven't really seen before anyway with the draft. I don't know, we'll have to wait and see.
 
All that's been said is true. Another problem is injuries. You get guys on one brand, key players to the roster, they get hurt and it screws up everything. Batista, Umaga, Cena, Triple H. Lose them and you're screwed. And this thing really stopped being fresh a long time ago. And there are way too many belts. Most of them don't even mean anything more. ECW belt, nobody recognizes it as a belt. The IC title and US title are barely hanging on. And the Divas title, only two have held it and neither one of them are that great in the ring in the first place. At least with the Women's Championship, you have some legitimate wrestlers with Melina and Beth and Mickie. Kelly is slowly but surely coming around too. And as far as the world titles, I can't take seeing Edge vs Cena anymore. Edge keeps seeming to fight Cena and Taker more than anybody else. With the tag titles unified, lets just end the roster split already.
 
In my opinion, the draft is just an excuse for better ratings,
for a 3 hour show and to confuse us. When people who go to new brands have feuds with people who are on that brand, the feud gets spoiled.
But, despite that, the draft is still in my eyes, pointless.
 
It doesn't matter. Everybody changes shows like my parents did partners in to 70s'. They;'ll have a draft on Monday and they'll have a new Raw wrestler appear on the next Smackdown.

The process is pointless, but tha actual show isn't. It's usually a very intresting show. And the mid week draft is often intresting as well.
 
Basically, as has been said for ages, they should stop the brand split. Anyone can feud with anyone, anyone can participate on either show, they can go on both if they like. I don't see the point in the brand split anymore, and you've highlighted many of the reasons in your post. It'd also make people more likely to wach all 3 shows, I know a few people who only watch one due to their favourite being on Raw/Smackdown. People would probably watch more if they didn't know which show that wrestler would be on, or if they'd be on both.

I also agree with what Jake said - the show is usually interesting. It doesn't matter too much who gets drafted where, there may be one or two big names, but the rest will just be mid-carders no one cares too much about anyway.
 
the draft is more of a publicity stunt that WWE pulls off every year now, it started off as just a one time thing to separate the stars on different shows, which started the whole Smackdown vs Raw deal...now they do it every year, its becoming like the nfl draft..its dumb!

i think intsead of a draft, if wwe wants to pull off something big this monday, i say forget the draft and combine all 3 shows again...to make WWE and Raw, Smackdown, ECW all with the superstars wrestling on each show, this way you also dont have to worry about "ratings" for each show...if all stars are on all the shows, more people will want to watch every show more, instead of just Raw
 
I ask this because of reasons like:

Miz & Morrison on ECW roster who won the World Tag Team Champions from RAW. Then they feuded with Carlito & Primo from... SMACKDOWN.

The few weeks leading up to WM25 on every show there has been practically an orgy of 6-man tag matches and special tag matches from all the members in the MITB match (including athletes from all three brands).

Nobody has asked why Kofi Kingston has made TWO Smackdown appearences for no reason at all only to lose in those matches.

I'm not even sure where the World Heavyweight Title "belongs" anymore. It's been defended on Raw and Smackdown (this Friday) recently.

...just the name a few reasons.


So whats the point really? How is this very much different from having three brands? Seems like one big illusion to me. I'm not complaining, just pointing it out. ^_^

Yeah I completely agree with you that no one superstar really belongs to one show anymore. I think that it's just done to spice things up a little especially in the wrestling community. I mean look at the official draft thread, look at all the posts people have left. What it does is allow the WWE to leave things in a little mystery. So many different outcomes can be achieved and so many more outcomes can be discussed especially here. I personally like to tune in because it's always a good night fraught with excitement and possibilities.
 
Its an important way to shake up the roster so we can have some new feuds and new pushes. I do find it annoying though, in that Raw always seems to "win" the draft. If this were a real draft, it wouldn't be such a predictable format: main eventers to Raw, guys getting pushes to main event or US title on Smackdown, one or two veterans who are lost in the shuffle on the other two shows go to ECW. That is just how it always works. I hope not this time.
 
I disagree. Smackdown was the definite winner of the last draft. They got Triple H, Umaga, Jeff Hardy etc. Raw got Mysterio and Batista. SD won the last one.
 
The draft used to be something I looked forward to. It was something to keep interest in WWE after Wrestlemania, when it's always dull. But now, with everyone showing up on every brand without an explanation, it doesn't matter at all. They can fix this though. After the draft, they can "freeze" the rosters, like they did before. And keep Raw talent on Raw, and Smackdown talent on Smackdown. ECW could still show up on both Raw and Smackdown, but I don't mind that so much, because I never watch ECW, lol. The Tag Championships should be defended on all three bands, but get more time on ECW, because obviously the two bigger shows will be used for main event and upper mid card feuds. I think the US and IC titles should be unified aswell, and then that title should be defended on all three brands aswell.
 
I think that WWE had so many people from one show appearing on another because it was close to Wrestlemania. During Wrestlemania, they seem to really want the ratings to soar, so that's probably why so many people appeared on different shows. This is where the draft comes in. I feel that when the draft is over, we can help superstars on their respective brands and not have to worry about different show appearances as much, but that's just my opinion.
 
Basically, as has been said for ages, they should stop the brand split. Anyone can feud with anyone, anyone can participate on either show, they can go on both if they like. I don't see the point in the brand split anymore, and you've highlighted many of the reasons in your post. It'd also make people more likely to wach all 3 shows, I know a few people who only watch one due to their favourite being on Raw/Smackdown. People would probably watch more if they didn't know which show that wrestler would be on, or if they'd be on both.

I also agree with what Jake said - the show is usually interesting. It doesn't matter too much who gets drafted where, there may be one or two big names, but the rest will just be mid-carders no one cares too much about anyway.

On the other han though, guys like Cena, HHH, Edge, Orton etc are gonna be expected to pretty much work all three shows if that's the case. Unless they made it obvious that the big stars weren't goign to be on all the shows all the time. Otherwise the workload would be too much I'd imagine. In all honesty the ideal thign to do woudl eb to scrap ECW and have Raw and Smackdown operate as they did before the brand split. But three televised shows a week would be too much work I htink, especially with Sueprstars starting up soon.
 
Well maybe the new Superstars show will help stop some of the crossbrand matches. I don't know if they will do feuds on it or just random superstars facing each other but this might help get the crossbrand competition out of WWE's system.
 
I disagree. Smackdown was the definite winner of the last draft. They got Triple H, Umaga, Jeff Hardy etc. Raw got Mysterio and Batista. SD won the last one.

Wasn't really a winning situation, WWE just wanted to stabilise their move to MyNetworkTV by putting big names on Smackdown. It worked but now things are still continuing to mess up for MNTV. Wasn't really about winning last year, just keeping figures and trying out some youngsters...and *gulp* Mike Adamle!
 
IMO, i want a complete DRAFT RE-SHUFFLE. Back when they first did the draft, almost every1 changed somewhere. then they did like on 10 people moved. i say we have a complete draft re-shuffle. EVERYONE is up for drafting. (i know they say "anyone can be drafted") but thats not true. i just want a legit draft.
 
If everyone moves then surely the end result would basically be Raw wrestlers moving to Smackdown and being on the same show as the wrestlers they were with before the draft.

Two main eventers of each brand and 4 mid carders is all that's needed.
 
I think the draft will put an end to the random smackdown stars on raw and the random raw stars on smackdown. It usually is a mixed show for wrestlemania and also leading to the draft so that multiple superstars have multilple fueds with multiple stars so that once the draft is done they can continue the fued on there show. So, if Edge was transfered to Raw he'd have a fued ready with Cena, but if Cena goes to Smackdown he's got a fued ready with Big Show.
 
I disagree. Smackdown was the definite winner of the last draft. They got Triple H, Umaga, Jeff Hardy etc. Raw got Mysterio and Batista. SD won the last one.

RAW also got CM Punk, Kofi Kingston and Mike Knox from ECW though. Knox has been just as effective as Umaga, and I would say that gaining Rey, Batista, CM Punk and Kofi and giving up HHH and Jeff Hardy is still gaining ground. I wish it was more realistic in the sense that NOBODY worth anything in terms of marketability or credibility to the average fan ever goes to ECW (since the first draft and Benoit anyway), its always ECW getting pillaged, and Raw and SD getting way more talent. Maybe this year they should have had no ECW GM to draft anyone, that would at least explain the upcoming destruction of the ECW roster.
 
Would like to say the draft does matter but we all know that ultimately it does not. Too many performers appear on all the shows for it to matter. Of course, if WWE kept each wrestler to his/her respective brand then this upcoming draft would def matter. They need to decide if they want separate brands or if they want to revert to the ways of old.
 
I wouldn't necessarily give no value of the draft whatsoever. I'm sure after Backlash everything will be back to normal. I think it depends on whether Edge gets moved to RAW or not primarily dealing with Randy Orton. If Edge goes to RAW, I believe Orton and Legacy will be drafted to Smackdown so they can feud with HHH more. If Edge stays at Smackdown, I can see Orton losing at Backlash and then feuding with Cena while Edge feuds with HHH.
 
Clearly, it matters. There will be like 50,000 threads created about it and complaining that so and so got drafted to such and such brand, and traffic will be really high. People will tune in, and there will be a bunch of crazy matches that determine who gets picks. It's compelling.
 

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