Does Bret Hart look like Otto the Bus Driver? Do you pity him? (And the big picture.)

[Morrison_Fanboy]

(This isn't just about Bret, as hinted at in the title. I'm using him as an example.)

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I think LayCool's evaluation of his appearance wasn't a stretch at all.

And honestly? I pitied him for it before LayCool even touched on the subject, the very night I bore witness to him returning.

He looks like a mess (and his voice always made him sound like one, so it's not the best combination), like he's trying to retain some essence of his earlier days. Like he has been in a coma for the last couple of decades, got up from bed, found the wardrobe formidable (though I don't know how it was ever considered acceptable) and threw it on. He looks overgrown.

All of my opinions, granted, are social constructs. It's apparent. There's no end-all dress code, but would you agree with any of my assertions?

I'm not trying to insult him any more than LayCool did, but I've been wanting to talk about this for a while. I see this happening to people in the performing arts all the time as they age.

Might any of you have caught the Honky Tonk Man's TV court appearance? He actually wore his ring attire to it and was prodding the citizens, otherwise bound to court norms, to give him an ovation. So the whole prospect of it manifests itself in a number of ways, and I can't help but to feel sorry for them, even if they don't do themselves.

In a recent article on the dirt sheets, a wrestler (I cannot remember who) maintained his belief that the drug abuse of superstars in the post-WWE realms of their lives is caused by them missing the spotlight WWE offered them: an unparalleled level of grandeur (I'm paraphrasing). And this is part of the reason I'm posting this in the WWE section.

Finally, I accept that and lots of my reasoning is inductive and likely doesn't run on its own merit.

Well? What's your opinion on wrestlers and "letting go" (and the ramifications thereof)?

Edit: The theme of "holding on" that I'm trying to convey is depicted well in "The Wrestler" starring Mickey Rourke.

 

[Navi]

I'd just like to go on the record and say that for all the reasons to make a thread this is the lamest I've ever seen.

I don't agree with any of your assertions. Since when has there been a dress code in the WWE. Bret Hart is actually one of the most normal ones out there. Look at Flair in his robe, how many people do you see walking down the street in one of those? I'll answer that for you, never.

I mean like shit, wrestler's have a gimmick to advertise and dressing the part is one of the results. Just because Bret Hart seems to have no sense of style, does that make him someone to be pitied. I see people walking around everyday wearing the exact same stuff he does. I don't pity them, I don't even care about them.

EDIT: If your basing your opinions on someone based on what Laycool says. Well hun doesn't say much does it.

 

[gd]

Just stopped in here to comment that Hart does certainly look like Otto and I have no idea how a guy like that could get a smoking hot, chocolate wife, except for the fact that he's famous and rich. Really, he's a disgusting human being.

As for all the drug stuff, obviously it's a huge problem in wrestling and has been one for years. They did choose to go down that path and they're suffering the consequences of their decisions. If they have to embarassing appearances into their 50s, then so be it.

 

[Morrison_Fanboy]

I'd just like to go on the record and say that for all the reasons to make a thread this is the lamest I've ever seen.

Fair enough.

I don't agree with any of your assertions. Since when has there been a dress code in the WWE. Bret Hart is actually one of the most normal ones out there. Look at Flair in his robe, how many people do you see walking down the street in one of those? I'll answer that for you, never.

I already mentioned the lack of merit in dress codes of any kind.

I mean like shit, wrestler's have a gimmick to advertise and dressing the part is one of the results. Just because Bret Hart seems to have no sense of style, does that make him someone to be pitied. I see people walking around everyday wearing the exact same stuff he does. I don't pity them, I don't even care about them.

Yes, I pity them for it because it's a mode of presenting and/or expressing yourself. Because you see other people dress like that doesn't render it a good choice in and of itself, but anyway, he looks like someone on welfare to me. Just my opinion. When grown men dress like that around where I live, people have a hard time taking them seriously.

EDIT: If your basing your opinions on someone based on what Laycool says. Well hun doesn't say much does it.

I said I pitied him for it before LayCool even shone light on the matter.

 

[La Parka]

I see nothing wrong with Bret's appearance, if that's what he likes to dress as. I'd rather he do what he enjoys, what he finds fashionable, rather than "selling out", or going with what's popular, or what's "acceptable". You have no idea how much I hated "Queer Eye", simply because the whole premise was insulting. "We don't like how you dress, so we're going to mess up your entire wardrobe, your entire house, and CHANGE everything you love. We don't see anything wrong lol!" No, put that crap away.

Honky Tonk Man doing that in the court room does sound sad, however. Attention grabbing, and all that.

 

[brighamosity]

At first glance I thought this thread was ******ed. But now that I think about it, I have to agree. When he first came back, I thought, "Wow, he looks like a bum." I know he's ten years older, so I'm not bashing weight gain or gray hair or anything that comes with age. But I'm just surprised at how little he seems to care about how he looks. In the 90's, he had the tights and the jet black hair with oil or something to make it all stringy and wet looking. Now it really does look like he just rolled out of bed and threw on some dirty clothes. Honestly, I think he looks like Raven from the late 90's with his grunge gimmick.

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

Really, he's a disgusting human being.

He's a disgusting human being? Bret Hart is a disgusting human being? Even if we're just talking appearances here, what are you? LayCool? This is real life, not Smackdown. Bret Hart is old. He had a stroke not too long ago. He probably hasn't had much of a reason (or the damn ability) to work out in the past 10 years, being that he wasn't planning on stepping back into the ring again. I hope somebody calls you a disgusting human being when you get old and have a stroke. Then you'll know what it feels like.

 

[wushady]

He does resemble Otto a little bit, and does look like he just got out of bed. However I don't really see anything wrong with him being him if that's the way he wants to dress more power to him. At least he doesn't go around wearing his ring gear, and greasing his hair down anymore. He accepts the fact that he's not the same guy he was ten plus years ago, and I respect him for that. All things considered I think a guy his age that has had a stroke could look a lot worse. I don't think drugs have anything to do with his appearance at all.

 

[Navi]

Yes, I pity them for it because it's a mode of presenting and/or expressing yourself. Because you see other people dress like that doesn't render it a good choice in and of itself, but anyway, he looks like someone on welfare to me. Just my opinion. When grown men dress like that around where I live, people have a hard time taking them seriously.

I said I pitied him for it before LayCool even shone light on the matter.

I didn't say it was a good choice to wear? Please tell me where I said that. What I said was that he isn't as flamboyant as some of the other wrestlers, and he was pretty tame in his get up. You don't like it, hey that's fine your entitled to your opinion, and believe me I have not intention on trying to change your mind.

He doesn't dress outlandishly at all, in fact he looks pretty normal, compared to the pink and black he used to wear.

And what does someone on welfare supposed to look like? I'm a teacher and some of my students have parents who are on welfare, believe me when I tell you that you wouldn't know it by looking at them. They and their kids just dress like everyone else. So I don't know where your getting that impression.

Listen he looks like a slob, I'll give you that, but then so do dozens of others I see daily. The only thing I will say is that his hair is too long for his age, and he might look a little more presentable if he cut it. But let's face it, Bret Hart is a wrestler not the Chairman of the Board at IBM.

 

[chrisman]

I'm pretty sure he just was dressing like that for being on tv. I mean even in the 90s when he would come out to cut a promo he would dress like that. I'm guessing he didn't feel the need to change. It wouldn't be bret to come out in a suit. This would be like saying oh steve austin looks like a slob cause he wears denim shorts and a t-shirt when he comes to the ring....Regardless I'm sure bret dresses nicer outside of the wrestling world.

 

[TheStar]

First off this is just stupid as said earlier and to make fun of a man who dedicated not just him but his family to an industry that sprung forth this website that you are a member of the forums is just dastardly.

Now to skim through it. Yes, Bret does look like Otto the bus driver but Bret has been dressing like that since 1991. If this website was around then maybe the comment would be funny. Now the pot references, ummmm Bret probably has or does smoke pot. Calgary is not too far from Vancouver, British Columbia and he is an avid fan of Cheech and Chong admittedly.

So all in all I due give you credit for making me respond to this thread but other than that. DANIEL BRYAN SHOULD KICK YOUR HEAD IN! (Please to any WWE fan who is attending televised events he is on, let's get that chant going)

 

[fredstephenson]

dude come on otto does not look like bret and to be honest i would be more then happy if i looked as cool as bret when im in my fiftys dont be such a tit we will all get old at some point if were lucky neways and actually why should bret let go neways hes put his life into wrestling what have you done apart from writing a fucking shitty thread on the internet

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

He does resemble Otto a little bit, and does look like he just got out of bed. However I don't really see anything wrong with him being him if that's the way he wants to dress more power to him. At least he doesn't go around wearing his ring gear, and greasing his hair down anymore. He accepts the fact that he's not the same guy he was ten plus years ago, and I respect him for that. All things considered I think a guy his age that has had a stroke could look a lot worse. I don't think drugs have anything to do with his appearance at all.

I agree with you on this, I dont think Bret looks particularly bad for a guy in his 50s who has had a stroke and serious health problems, and spent 20 odd years of his life taking a beating in the ring every night.

Its pretty likely he wont dress in this way when he is out of the ring, its just the kind of stuff he wore back when he was cutting promos back in the 90s, a leather jacket, denim shorts and a t-shirt. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion.

Maybe he could dye his hair to black again, just to make himself look a bit younger, but for me, Bret looks just fine.

 

[vampireblade]

He's a disgusting human being? Bret Hart is a disgusting human being? Even if we're just talking appearances here, what are you? LayCool? This is real life, not Smackdown. Bret Hart is old. He had a stroke not too long ago. He probably hasn't had much of a reason (or the damn ability) to work out in the past 10 years, being that he wasn't planning on stepping back into the ring again. I hope somebody calls you a disgusting human being when you get old and have a stroke. Then you'll know what it feels like.

i agree with you 100% this is a man who has had multiple strokes over the past 10 years hes getting older i mean he wears whats comfortable for him so who are we to judge him anyway i mean as long as hes comfortable thats all that matters so to the OP who started this thread it doesnt matter what whoever wears are u wearing no you are not so dont worry what other people look like and to General dissray you are truly a disgusting human being for being so judgemental of people jwhat just because he wears something that you dont like hes disgusting no sir you are disgusting

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

Does he look like Otto? Sure, why not. Is this the most idiotic thread ever created? Top five, at least.

I don't care if Bret comes to the ring in a diaper. I don't care if he comes wearing a three-piece suit. I'm just happy he's there. He's one of the greatest in-ring performers of all time, and he's damn sure earned the right to not only come back to WWE in a speaking role, but to also wear whatever the hell he wants.

The man literally gave his life for the business. He is basically crippled due to injuries suffered in the ring. And someone is really going to be so bitter about him being around that he/she has to make a thread bagging on how he dresses? Bret Hart has forgotten more about wrestling than any of us internet smarks could dream to ever learn. It would be different if Bret were a terrible person like Brock Lesnar or someone of that sort, but he isn't. He's a nice guy who, along with Vinny Mac, is looking for closure. Jesus, this is a terrible thread. The only disgusting human being in this thread is the person who created it.