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On the blog I post my reviews at, in an argument over whether Sheamus is a success or not. The guy's response (in response to me saying Edge stole titles and wins all the time)

Except when he did it, HE was in control and outsmarted everyone. When Sheamus did this, he was NEVER in control physically or mentally, in fact to this date, he has yet to be portrayed as physically or mentally dominant against any of the top level guys. Which is why he’s such a lame duck champion. Swagger at least got a clean pin over Orton, something Sheamus couldn’t.

Seriously?
 
"Logic": I don't like Sheamus. Therefore he is not a success. I like Edge. Therefore he is a success.
 
Yeah I pointed that out. Other arguments: Sheamus had to steal wins over Cena twice so he hasn't proven himself. He also hasn't dominated any one of the big guys on screen. Apparently HHH isn't a big name?
 
Swagger is one of the main points of this. He started the whole thing actually, along with Dolph. Apparently Ziggler is bringing the title down because he isn't interesting.
 
Swagger is one of the main points of this. He started the whole thing actually, along with Dolph. Apparently Ziggler is bringing the title down because he isn't interesting.

I'll agree with Swagger as a lame duck champion. But in NO way are Zig and Sheamus lame duck champs. That's just fucking stupid.
 
Kids today...

You know I have to wonder how Zigglers initial reign(the one he was supposed to have after beating Rey Mysterio) would have been in comparison to today. I would have to think it would be lacking in comparison, because he has the human heat magnet as his "girlfriend".
 
Swagger is one of the main points of this. He started the whole thing actually, along with Dolph. Apparently Ziggler is bringing the title down because he isn't interesting.

Woah, woah, woah. Ziggler isn't interesting? God, give him a chance. He's only just got the championship; he hasn't even begun yet.

KB, whoever this asswipe was that started this whole farse is an idiot.
I'm with you totally now...Dolph fucking Ziggler, uninteresting. Give me a break.
 
Well the main issue he has with Zig is the name and the sleeper. Yeah the sleeper is so bad that since he started using it he's gotten the biggest push of his career.
 
Totally, a move that makes someone pass out from lack of oxygen is a transition move. cause after their unconscious you still have to do "teh flipz"
 
Well the main issue he has with Zig is the name and the sleeper. Yeah the sleeper is so bad that since he started using it he's gotten the biggest push of his career.

But he was so much better last year when he lost like 100 IC title matches and was with Maria.
 
Another round. This is from him and anything in quotation marks is from me.

“Cena losing in tables matches and fatal fourways to Sheamus is perfect. It wouldn’t make sense to have Sheamus pin him or make him tap so early in his career. Sheamus won those matches fairly under the rules. Him winning that way is supposed to get on the fans’ nerves. It’s called being a heel champion.”

If there not willing to give him a win over a top level guy, then they have no business being champion.

“What do you mean Sheamus hasn’t been made to look dominant against top guys? He’s credited onscreen for putting HHH out since what, April or May?”

After doing everything possible to make sure HHH could save face.

“He dominates smaller guys which is as standard and old school of a way to get over as there is.”

Yeah because that tactic worked so well for guys like Vladimir Kozlov, Chris Masters, and The Great Khali, IT’S THE FREAKIN 21st century.

“This mental aspect of Edge is about as much of a stretch as possible, especially since Edge is probably the most overrated main event guy this century.”

Says the guy who thinks Sheamus is WAY over as a heel! Edge was portrayed as smarter than the rest of the roster most of the time. How does that make him over rated?

“Again with this mental domination. It’s physical contact, not a chess match. Sheamus is WAY over as a heel and has dominated Raw for the better part of a year. He’s gotten the rocket push that so many in the company have lacked for years now but hey, you don’t like him so it must be done wrong. Sheamus is a rousing success, period.”

Okay now you sound like Tony Schiavone or Matt Striker when they make up stupid shit.

Sheamus is not a rousing success or way over as a heel; Jericho, Miz, Edge, CM Punk! Those guys are/were WAY over as heels. Sheamus is like a fart in church compared to them in drawing heat.

He hasn’t dominated ANY top level star to date! No HHH doesn’t count because that beatdown of him was half assed, just like his push.

And wrestling is more mentally involving then you think. Outsmarting your opponent plays just as much a part (if not more) in wrestling as physically dominating does. One of my favorite examples of this is the Angle/Guerrero match at WM XX.

Personally I think you should ask the mark in you this question, “What is it that makes Sheamus appealing to you?”
 

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