Chris Hero's fitness compared to Daniel Bryan?

[NegativeFeedback]

Chris Hero was supposedly fired after countless arguments about his weight. Either he didn't work hard enough a the gym, or his reported hormonal imbalances were working against him losing weight. Either way, he was fat and Triple H didn't like it.

My question is, does he really look any different than Daniel Bryan did this week on Smackdown? The above picture is the still of the video, and his rather clumpy gut is quite noticeable. Hero might be a tad more flabby, but it doesn't look like he's that different from the last WWE Champion.

For the record, I don't think all wrestlers need to look like EC3. Bryan's character is perfectly fine without having flaming hot six pack abs. I'm one of those who think Hero shouldn't have been fired for something so minor. You can give him an obsessive doughnut-eating gimmick until he loses the weight, you don't have to fire him!

But do you think Daniel Bryan is in THAT much better shape than him?
Or do you think it wasn't about his weight at all, and it was more about his attitude? I frankly can't see such a difference between the above pics to warrant pushing one and not the other.

 

[klunderbunker]

It's the attitude.

Here's the thing: Chris Hero is indeed an indy legend, but he's never proven a thing on a major stage. He's the equivalent of a college star making a jump to the pros. He might have been good before, but he has to prove himself all over again. The problem is that WWE told him to do something and he didn't do it to their satisfaction. WWE is going to be just fine without Chris Hero because there's a long line of people that would punch their grandmother in the face to get the spot Hero had. Hero was told to do something by his bosses and didn't do it. It doesn't matter if they tell him to go learn about the mating habits of termites. If that's what they tell him to do, he could either do so or leave. The physique isn't the issue here.

 

[NegativeFeedback]

It's the attitude.

Here's the thing: Chris Hero is indeed an indy legend, but he's never proven a thing on a major stage. He's the equivalent of a college star making a jump to the pros. He might have been good before, but he has to prove himself all over again. The problem is that WWE told him to do something and he didn't do it to their satisfaction. WWE is going to be just fine without Chris Hero because there's a long line of people that would punch their grandmother in the face to get the spot Hero had. Hero was told to do something by his bosses and didn't do it. It doesn't matter if they tell him to go learn about the mating habits of termites. If that's what they tell him to do, he could either do so or leave. The physique isn't the issue here.

I understand the sentiment, but I remember there were rumors before he signed with WWE that Chris Hero suffered from hypothyroidism and he was taking regular testosterone supplements. If that's true, it's almost impossible for him to keep the weight off. He's lucky he didn't look like an inflated balloon.

WWE obviously knows about his condition as he was screened before signing and, if I recall correctly, the elevated testosterone levels caused them to stall his signing for a while. How can they fire him for his "attitude" if he obviously had *something* going on in his body?

There are ways to work around that type of gut. Daniel Bryan was given a crazy goat-face gimmick and he turned it into gold. Santino was given an Italian stereotype and he also turned it into gold. JBL has always had massive man-boobs and the dude was pushed to the moon and back.

I don't see why this should have been a dealbreaker for Chris. The dude could have been a star.

 

[The_Don]

CM Punk has a worse physique than Bryan, so obviously what really got Hero fired was his attitude.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

Go watch Hero's RF shoot interview if you can. Hero wasn't solely released due to his physique, he admits he was told to slim down, which he did, but in the process of slimming down he missed some early morning training sessions which all WWE development talent must attend. Their paid to train, if their not training then their getting paid to do nothing. Hero said he was feeling like it was coming anyway because they'd told him over a year ago he'd be going to the main roster, it never happened and then they stopped telling him things.

Bryan may not be a Greek God but he has a notable work ethic - he busts his ass at every aspect of wrestling. From the in ring content to what happens outside of it. This is a guy who slept on a concrete floor for a month and a half in Japan just so he could work for Pro Wrestling NOAH. Chris Hero's the guy who used to wear stretch pants as ring attire.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

In terms of sheer conditioning in comparing those pics, I see quite a bit of difference. Daniel Bryan actually has muscularity and muscle tone and Chris Hero doesn't.

I've always thought that Hero is someone that's had an extremely unusual body type. He's not really skinny, he's not really fat and he's not muscular, but he seems to be some combination of all three. His body just kinda...I dunno, just hangs there. Daniel Bryan's physique has a good degree of muscular development, he just hasn't gone overboard with it. He's not going to win any physique contests but, then again, he's not trying to. However, if WWE asked him to put on about 15 pounds of pure muscle, Bryan wouldn't bat an eye. He'd do it without a single complaint or hesitation because, as others have pointed out, Bryan's work ethic has earned him a lot of praise everywhere he's worked.

I'm not saying that Hero has a bad work ethic or even a bad attitude. When it comes down to the crunch, however, these guys have to prove themselves to WWE. It doesn't matter to the WWE brass how big someone is on the independent scene, in Japan or in Mexico. If they felt Hero was being lazy or just not working as hard as they thought he should, had been told so by the brass but didn't step it up, then they're not going to waste their time. I'm not saying that's what happened as I don't know the whole story. I know that WWE always gets blamed for being the big evil corporation who doesn't know what it's doing whenever some one gets cut that happens to be an indie or internet favorite. It's a generality that just simply can't be the case each and every single time.

 

[Blade]

If you had them just standing there side by side, Daniel Bryan looks noticably more toned, muscular and athletic. Hero's flab spills over his trunks, and his pectoral muscles aren't much better than that of an average 20-something year old.

But the fact is, even if Daniel Bryan let himself go the slightest bit, so what? The guy worked hard, proved his worth, and there's never been any reports of a bad attitude backstage. Despite the occasional comment in interviews that show a little bit of his "Indy Guy" mentality, Bryan is a model employee. Considering he was the guy who picked up the slack for press events and interviews while Cena was away, could you really blame him if he wasn't working out quite as hard over the last few months?

Hero, meanwhile, probably has a schedule that's rather desirable compared to what Bryan has been working this year. I'm sure he's got the time to work out, he's got support in the form of Antonio Cesaro, and he knows its what his employers want him to do. But it sounds like he was just too stubborn. So yeah, his body image was a slight issue, but it wasn't what got him fired. His unwillingness to listen was.

 

[Magic Mark]

Let's do a side-by-side comparison, aye? INSERT PHOTO!

Look at Ohno. He looks like my 40 year old uncle covered in baby oil wearing his tighy-whiteys. He has moobs, unattractive chest hair, freakishly pale skin, and a muffin top. Dosen't look like a WWE Superstar one bit (aside from the ring gear). Now look at Bryan. Tan, toned, and masculine. Just what HHH likes. Sure, he's short. But unless if you are 5'6 like Mysterio, height dosen't really prove any difference through a TV screen. I know that sounds weird, but watch some of Bryan's matches. Most of the guys he wrestles against are anywhere between 5'9-6'10. He dosen't seem that short. Anyways, back to Fattius Ohhellno. Ohno just didn't have the will to work out as much as Bryan does. Like everyone else has said, Bryan has an amazing work ethic, which is why he is a multiple-time WWE world champion. Ohno, on the other hand, is a total diva (Pun Tally-1). Which is why he stayed in developmental for two years, got fired, and is currently wrestling in high school gyms and Bingo Halls. Case in point, attitude is everything.

 

[dman1373]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXK-RdRyFy4

this is what ohno needs to get back to. When he was this size he looked like he deserved to be a main eventer. He could move better and was just amazing to watch.

 

[Pedigree1]

Mr Hero, does not have the same work ethic as Daniel Bryan does. As was stated DB works his ass off,dare i say as hard as John Cena does? Not many people are willing to sleep on concrete floors just to learn a craft! Yes, Chris Hero was a big shot on the indie scene but as KB has alluded to,he is a college star looking to jump into the pros with wanting everything without proving anything.

As far as the physique goes,Daniel Bryan obviously hits the weights a tad more than Mr hero does. Not everyone can craft a six pack its impossible for a lot of people.. If Daniel Bryan was told to pack on Muscle,he would do it without batting an eye,Chris Hero more than likely would complain the whole time! Attitude is everything

 

[gotemo]

If you look at bryan and punk over time you see ups and downs andthat's basically trying to stay conditioned on the road. Neither guys has genetical pre-disposition to being super muscular but they maintain a reasonable build. Punk in the past few years has toned up quite a bit, I personally don't think oiled up tattoo's do your body all that much justice. Too many colors and shapes distort it all, still looks cool though. Bryan seems to be getting noticeably more muscular the past year at least that's what I'm seeing might be going crazy though as that's always a possibility.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Bryan and Punk both have better physiques than hero. Hero has size because he's naturally that big. Bryan and punk are only as big as they are because of the gym. Also, don't believe anything you read from the dirt sheets. Hero might have been fired because they already have a dozen good Indy-style workers and he's going to get lost in the shuffle, or maybe it was attitude.

 

[dman1373]

Bryan and Punk both have better physiques than hero. Hero has size because he's naturally that big. Bryan and punk are only as big as they are because of the gym. Also, don't believe anything you read from the dirt sheets. Hero might have been fired because they already have a dozen good Indy-style workers and he's going to get lost in the shuffle, or maybe it was attitude.

but hero works different then both bryan and punk, and also has the size that not many in the indys have.

 

[HellBoundPower]

There is a HUGE difference between the two. Other than being a little soggy in the lower midsection, Daniel Bryan has a pretty impressive physique for a guy his size. He's got muscle definition, and it's obvious that he's all natural. No juicing. And as stated by pretty much everyone that's posted on this thread, his work ethic is much higher. If the WWE brass asked him to gain muscle, or even lose weight, I'm sure he would do it without a fuss.

As for Chris Hero, I know he was asked to tone up and maybe gain some bulk, but I don't think his physique is what got him a pink slip. Again, as many have stated earlier in this thread, I think it's about attitude. While I don't think Chris has a sour attitude, when you're employed by someone, you're supposed to listen to them and do as you're told. Any word of complaints or lack of progress can be detrimental to you're employment. As good as Chris is, he's not untouchable. WWE decided to sever ties with him. While I think it sucks for Chris, and for fans of him, such as myself, what's done is done.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

but hero works different then both bryan and punk, and also has the size that not many in the indys have.

Not really, he works a very Indy (as in, puro inspired) style. He's also not THAT big. Just because he's not 5'7" 170 pounds like most Indy guys doesn't make him big. He's not big enough to get away with looking soft. He doesn't have to look like Cesaro but he needs to look like an athlete.

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

Hero is not the sort of guy who could get a massive bodybuilder style physique, it's just not possible with his natural physique or metabolism. Some people are just naturally more able to gain muscle without resorting to steroids, which I am sure WWE are well aware of- Bryan and Punk are two major stars without the "WWE dream" physique of a John Cena or Brock Lesnar.

While WWE wanted Hero to tone up, it will not have been just his physique that caused him to be released, other factors will be involved also, be it attitude or backstage issues we don't know about. Hero does strike me as a guy who didn't have the "desire" or "drive" that someone like a Daniel Bryan does. If he was protesting, moaning or complaining about WWE's request, or not showing the required dedication and effort then it's no wonder he was released, as WWE want total compliance and people to drop everything and put 100% time and effort into being a WWE Superstar, as there are hundreds of other wrestlers desperate for that opportunity.

 

[Kidpolean]

Hero is not the sort of guy who could get a massive bodybuilder style physique, it's just not possible with his natural physique or metabolism. Some people are just naturally more able to gain muscle without resorting to steroids, which I am sure WWE are well aware of- Bryan and Punk are two major stars without the "WWE dream" physique of a John Cena or Brock Lesnar.

While WWE wanted Hero to tone up, it will not have been just his physique that caused him to be released, other factors will be involved also, be it attitude or backstage issues we don't know about. Hero does strike me as a guy who didn't have the "desire" or "drive" that someone like a Daniel Bryan does. If he was protesting, moaning or complaining about WWE's request, or not showing the required dedication and effort then it's no wonder he was released, as WWE want total compliance and people to drop everything and put 100% time and effort into being a WWE Superstar, as there are hundreds of other wrestlers desperate for that opportunity.

nobody is saying he should be Brock or cena. Hero is at least 20-30% bodyfat and that is completely unacceptable. This isn't a metabolism problem, this isn't bad genetics, this is simply a guy that eats food with large amounts of fat and doesn't workout. He looks gross. His leg fat moves all over the place when he does a move. It is silly to compare db to hero. DB is probably 10-15% bodyfat which is something that would take Hero like a year or two to achieve without losing his strength and the little muscle he has under the massive amounts of fat. I don't understand why people try to defend this guy. He's a lazy idiot, that ruined the chance of a lifetime because he'd rather eat taco bell every night than keep his body right.