Kayfabe wise Cena has wrestled matches after a war and lost pretty handily in the next match,
Let's also take into account he was dominated in a match and still won, against Lesnar.
take Edge beating him at New Years Revolution in like 2 minutes after he just survived an Elimination chamber match, this might not be a chamber match
No, it's not achamber match and it's also not exactly after the war with Bryan. Edge did not wrestle right before his match with Cena and in this situation, Lesnar did wrestle shortly before in what wasn't exactly a squash.
but considering the rules of the tournament I can't imagine him in much better shape then he was on that particular night and since we're talking kayfabe here how about the kayfabe part where Lesnar handily defeated a star bigger than Cena in Stone Cold Steve Austin. Who in their right mind would have Cena beat Lesnar after a war when Lesnar just beat Austin?
Just because he defeated a bigger name (subjective) than Cena, that doesn't mean he'd beat Cena. I mean, Bryan has defeated Cena but he's also lost to Roman Reigns, a much smaller name than John Cena.
Maybe the problem isn't guys like me treating this like a shoot, maybe it's guys like you who ignore how strong Lesnar has been presented because you want Cena to win despite all points of logic screaming otherwise.
Or maybe the problem is that people are giving Lesnar more credit than he deserves for his recent wins, for reasons explained.
"In addition, people are forgetting that Cena was actually going to beat Lesnar in their rematch at Night Of Champions, until Rollins had interfered."
I seem to have read this countless times since this match started. Sure.
Countless times? I wrote that once and JMT had repeated it. That's twice.
Fact is, Lesnar has beaten Cena at the height of both,
Height of both? John Cena has clearly passed his prime. He appears to be slower than before and he's losing more matches than before. I mean, he even lost by submission to Rusev recently.
and I don't believe the convenient snubbing of Cena's prime shortly before he fought Lesnar. Oh yeah. That only why he was both the WWE champ
So just because he passed his prime, he can't win the WWE Championship? Hulk Hogan won the belt in 2002 and The Rock in 2013. If someone passes their prime, they're not always poor performers, they're just not as good as they once were.
and the guy they picked to feed to Lesnar.
The fact that he was dominated shows he has indeed passed his prime. Such a thing had never happened to him beforehand. You pretty much proved the point.
Cena is the almost guy. Almost good.
Why is Cena "almost good?" He's great. He's an excellent performer and one of the best of this generation. Why else would he be such a good draw?
Don't tell me you think Lesnar is a better professional wrestler than John Cena. Cena is the better performer, his charisma is matched only by few, his character has helped shape the WWE into what it is today as their front man of their PG direction and he actually can cut a promo.
it only demonstrates how ridiculous his spotlight is.
What's ridiculous about it? He's been the top star of the company for 10 years and deservedly so.
Had Cena gotten a more decisive victory over Bryan in the last round, I'd have given him my vote, but I say with a fresh Lesnar and a Cena that was taken to the limit... SuperCena would run Brock close, but a 3rd F5 to Cena would be lights out after a complimentary trip to Suplex City.
This damage carrying over to the next round factor is definitely playing a part but people seem to be thinking a bit too much on one particular match (SummerSlam) and seem to be forgetting that this is John Cena. He's one of the best athletes that's ever been in the WWE and is extremely resilient. He's won 15 world titles for crying out loud and outlasted 29 others in the Royal Rumble on two occasions. In the 3 videos Sly had posted, we can see that when Lesnar looks to be dominating a match, whether it be in the WWE or UFC, the tables can turn around quickly with Brock on the losing end. We saw a similar occurance at Wrestlemania where he was dominating for a long time and after a few hammers to the head, looked very vulnerable and was extremely close to losing. Bear in mind that this was Roman Reigns, not the 15 time world champion John Cena.
Heyman and Lesnar are a package deal & it is just silly to ignore their dynamic.
You're right in the sense that managers are a huge part of certain individuals' careers, but it shows that there are just some things they can't do without them. Let's be real, if Heyman wasn't Lesnar's mouthpiece, he wouldn't be seen as what he is today. Why? Heyman is a huge part of his presence and why people see Lesnar the way they do so.
Although, I guess Heyman could play a part in this matchup, interfering for the man that relies on him a lot.