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Not over Cena in his prime.
The Daniel Bryan arguments have already started in full force ridiculousness. John Cena has numerous victories over Daniel Bryan, but we ignore all of them because of ONE match after Cena has begun stepping out of the major spotlight.
Complete and total lack of logic being displayed thus far by Bryan supporters. Which isn't surprising since there really isn't a lot of valid arguments to be made for Bryan.
John Cena started his wrestling journey in 1999 at the age of 22, at 6'1" and 250(ish) pounds he was blessed with a natural 80's style pro-wrestler size and bodytype. At about the same time an 18 year old Bryan Danielson left school, at an average 5'10" 200(ish) pounds - he looked like the average bloke.
John had a great gimmick to begin with, a 'Terminator' T-800alike called the Prototype which helped disguise any greenness while he gained experience in UPW and (WWF developmental) OVW. Danielson, with his limited size and look, looked to improve at a pace leaning from guys like Dean Malenko, HBK and (in another WWF developmental favorite) MCW.
So far, so similar but here paths diverge. The WWF severed ties with MCW and released the cruiserweight Bryan. However, they maintained OVW and Cena rose to the top there. In 2002 Cena joined the main (newly renamed) WWe were he got an immediate push, answering two time World Champ Kurt Angle's open challenge, putting up a good show in a losing and then getting congratulated for his efforts. From there, he showed a natural charisma and connection to the crowd that (combined with aforementioned looks) lead to a skyrocket to becoming the dominant force in the company from 2005 onwards. The company got that much behind him (throwing him into WWe production 'The Marine') that some of the fanbase turned on him who probably saw similarities to the likes of Hulk Hogan and the Rock who had both gotten too big prior to him. While always improving, many older fans also felt he lacked the in-ring proficiency of fellow roster members and as a result of miraculous comebacks were he would no sell injuries dubbed him 'SuperCena'. However, a move to being child friendly, and putting their considerable marketing prowess into portraying him as a superhero with gaudy outfits to complement (and changed that frequently that even a prosports team would blush with embarasment at changing kit that often). To his credit; booed or cheered out of arenas, he maintains the same enthusiasm and (with his promotional and 'Make A Wish' Foundation work) he has done much to earn his spot.
Daniel's path was much different. Not being blessed with size, an overly unique look and lacking Cena's superstar charisma on the mic. He worked across the world in NJPW, RoH and many many other Indie organisations garnering the moniker "The Best Wrestler in the World". He tried again for the WWe but was again rejected, so continued doing what loved and growing his reputation until he was finally given a shot in WWe's new TV project that took over from their version of ECW. In NXT, he was ridiculed mercilessly for his Indie background by 'mentor' the Miz and commentator Michael Cole and forced to lose week after week. Despite this he was the most over on the show and, after the infamous tie strangling suspension (when he returned to Indie roots), he joined John Cena's team to take down his old NXT comrades. From there he has had a roller coaster ride of stop start pushes: from US / IC / tag / WHC belts to love triangles (and squares) / yo-yoing up and down the card and repeated Mania snubs. Despite this and despite still not running the risk of being the world's greatest speaker, he never lost the audience. Why? I put it down to connecting on a human level - audiences forgive his promo slips and losses and accept his massive wins because flubbing lines on the stick or winning / loosing or drawing in the ring against whomever, people still find him genuine and believable.
John Cena has 16 years in the business and has been backed completely by the WWe for 10 of those, Daniel Bryan has spent those same 16 years doing his damnest to be shown an iota of the same faith. He may lose to a midcarder - look at him, that's believable but he may also turn round and beat the best and he also makes that look believable... as he did incredibly at WMXXX... and at the 2013 SummerSlam against the past decade's icon whose history to the 2013 Slam was defeating Lesnar, overcoming (then) authority John Laurinaitis, winning MitB, being portrayed as a better man than the guy who'd held the title longer than anyone else in a quarter century, being blindside screwed out of the WHC by another authority figure, winning the Royal Rumble, beating the Rock, overcoming monsters Ryback and Mark Henry (and this was a period he also needed surgery resulting in 2 missed PPVs)... some people are very harsh in what they'll regard as 'prime'.
D-Bry deserves to edge this in kayfabe and (unless you're a 'silver spoon' type of person), he is as equally deserving for his career thus far.
It's dishonest to cut out something which has no relevance to this thread?I do enjoy the dishonesty of snipping out the rest of my post to try and make your point.
You had no point. Your point was completely mitigated by the fact John Cena wasn't in his prime.My point still stands
Then all that shows is several people thought it was funny. There are several threads on this forum which show it was far more about the humor than the legitimacy. Furthermore, while it's the only chance Bryan apologists have, kayfabe is not the only arguments allowed in the WZ Tournament and dishonest people like you still won't address the fact John Cena is, in every way, superior to Daniel Bryan.if Yokozuna progressed out of the first round against Hulk fucking Hogan
"Bizzaro land" is where the WZ Tournament lives.The WZ tournament has entered bizzaro land as far reasoning goes.
Because you don't know anything about good wrestling?Good thinking, also putting my name down for Bryan. Voted for him because he's one of my all-time favorites, I prefer him over Cena and for the same reason I voted Yokozuna over Hogan.
Cena is superior to Daniel Bryan in nearly every way. Good decision.I wish Daniel Bryan was able to build on his momentum after WrestleMania last year. It was a great moment for him but it just didn't last. He's kind of like Chris Benoit. Respected technical wrestler. Good career in various promotions before WWE. WWE mid carder for a few years before getting one big victory and shortly after back to the mid card. Bryan was on top for a couple months. Cena was on top for a decade. Cena gets my vote.
And this right here is how the IWC has helped ruin wrestling. While the vast majority of the American audience wants to see larger than life characters, the IWC (probably because of the immense inferiority complex so many of them seem to have) demands wrestlers who look like the guy working at the local 7/11. They absolutely crap on mega stars who are larger than life characters and in no way can this be better seen than the way Batista was treated. Batista is a legitimate, bona fide movie star, a major character in a movie which broke box office records...but the IWC just crapped on him because he is a bigger than life character with muscles.This is my written vote for Daniel Bryan. He made me believe that a normal looking guy could become a major hit.
And this right here is how the IWC has helped ruin wrestling. While the vast majority of the American audience wants to see larger than life characters, the IWC (probably because of the immense inferiority complex so many of them seem to have) demands wrestlers who look like the guy working at the local 7/11.
You just tried to argue Daniel Bryan should get the win because he's not as good as John Cena.
You had no point. Your point was completely mitigated by the fact John Cena wasn't in his prime.
And this right here is how the IWC has helped ruin wrestling. While the vast majority of the American audience wants to see larger than life characters, the IWC (probably because of the immense inferiority complex so many of them seem to have) demands wrestlers who look like the guy working at the local 7/11. They absolutely crap on mega stars who are larger than life characters and in no way can this be better seen than the way Batista was treated. Batista is a legitimate, bona fide movie star, a major character in a movie which broke box office records...but the IWC just crapped on him because he is a bigger than life character with muscles.
It sometimes legitimately saddens me how the Internet wrestling fan has contributed to the decline of pro wrestling.
And this right here is how the IWC has helped ruin wrestling.
While the vast majority of the American audience wants to see larger than life characters, the IWC (probably because of the immense inferiority complex so many of them seem to have) demands wrestlers who look like the guy working at the local 7/11.
They absolutely crap on mega stars who are larger than life characters and in no way can this be better seen than the way Batista was treated. Batista is a legitimate, bona fide movie star, a major character in a movie which broke box office records...but the IWC just crapped on him because he is a bigger than life character with muscles.
It sometimes legitimately saddens me how the Internet wrestling fan has contributed to the decline of pro wrestling.
Because you don't know anything about good wrestling?