Can Jeff Jarrett Even Be Labeled as A Part of Immortal Anymore?

[GI Cake]

I think we can all think back to 10/10/10 and recall what have happened. Flair, Hogan, Bischoff, and Jarret coming out to support Jeff Hardy to 'earn' the World heavyweight championship. And for the first few weeks Jarret was standing side by side with Immortal, sharing promos, and assisting in the ring.

However as soon as Jarret began is his random MMA segments Jarret couldn't have looked further away from being a part of Immortal. Do not get me wrong, the fued between him and Angle is going in the right direction and does not need Immortal in his buisness. But can Jarret even even be identified as a member of Immortal?

 

[Nate DaMac]

Uh.... what? Just because he isn't always involved with Immortal angles doesn't mean that his alliance no longer lies with them. He still uses their help and is with them in group meetings/promos. Rob Terry is feuding with Steiner, does that mean he's no longer with Immortal?

It would be incredibly lame if they all were feuding with the same guy, i.e Sting, RVD, and Anderson. Despite how much I hate Jarrett, they're doing the right thing here.

 

[HardCoor]

I thought about that too when Immortal came out during Dixie's segment, but the Jeffs were not with them... Jarrett and Hardy were both absent. Rob Terry was out there even though it had nothing to do with his feud with Steiner. I just thought that was a big moment for Immortal and it was weird that those two were not out there with the group. I could see maybe saying Jarrett was preparing for his wedding so he was not there, but I didnt understand why Jeff Hardy was not out with the group. Also is Abyss really still out from having "Janice" stuck in his back? He has fought countless hardcore matches and come back the next week from them, but this incident keeps him out for weeks/months?

 

[neildittmar]

Almost since inception, Immortal has kind of struck me as somewhat of a loose knit group. Unlike the nWo, which always attacked individual targets in a pack, Immortal looks to be much more segmented. Bischoff has his cronies (Matt Hardy, Rob Terry, Gunner & Murphy) consistently at his side, but co-conspires with Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan when the moment or necessity arises. Before the Fourtune face turn, Flair gravitated towards those guys mostly, which is why I was kind of surprised he didn't turn "face" with them. Terry has his own feud with Steiner that Immortal (collectively) seems to not be too involved with. Same goes for Jarret and Angle. Even though the feud is only one day old, the same could be said about Sting and Jeff Hardy. I didn't see Immortal running out to interfere in that match to keep the title on Jeff.

For the most part, I think Immortal has been exactly as advertised so far. Many were claiming it was an nWo rehash upon its inception, but I don't think that's exactly true. Sure there are some similarities, but the point here is that each member (or team in the case of G&M) stands on his own. That way, they don't get lost in the shuffle as many of the nWo members used to. Of course, an argument could be made about Matt Hardy essentially being relegated to "Bischoffs lackey" status. Nevertheless, Immortal is certainly a collective but each participant is his own man with his own feuds and agenda.

To that degree I think Jeff Jarretts involvement with Immortal is par for the course.

 

[yankees-flair]

I agree with the other posts. I think Jarrett is still a big part of Immortal, but as with the other members, has his own independent fued going on.
I also see Big Poppa Pump joing Immortal soon, replacing Rob Terry, especially since he easily beat him on Impact. He can only be a face for so long.

 

[jellmoo]

I think of it more like Macho Man in the nWo. He was a part of the group, but mostly having his own feud with DDP.

Considering how everything played out, with Flair and The Bisch backing up Double J, I can't see him as being anything other than a part of the group. He just isn't a minion like the others. He has his own agenda.

One thing I do find concerning is that Double J is feeling more and more like a mid-card comedy act. Which kind of raises an odd question:

Where are the main even heels? Faces that could main event a PPV right now: Sting, AJ Styles, Kurt Angle, Ken Anderson, RVD, Matt Morgan and *maybe* Samoa Joe.

Heels that can main event a PPV: Jeff Hardy and *maybe* Double J and Pope.

Considering the current Jeff Hardy legal situation, this may be something they want to look into. Fast.

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

I still consider Jarret a part of immortal. As others said before, the group is more loose knit than other factions (4horsemen, NWO, etc.). They are together when the necessity is there. I said in another thread that while Hernandez is part of Immortal, he has his own feud with Matt Morgan. So if Morgan attacks the whole group, Hernandez is going to be there. If not, well there is no need for Hernandez to be there. Its the same situation with the Jarret/angle feud or the Gunner/Murphy and Beer Money inc. feud.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

For the sake and quality of that storyline, TNA had better hope Doulbe J is still considered a member of Immortal.

He's easily been the most entertaining thing to come out of that faction. What else is there? Hardy? He barely speaks, and is nothing more than a crony for Flair, Bischoff and Hogan. Gunner and Murphy? Kidding! That one speaks for itself.

And yes, Jarrett is still a big part of Immortal. Did you not watch last night? After Kurt ruined the first wedding, he went right to Flair and Bischoff. He's distanced himself a bit, and I think that's a good thing. But he's still a big part of what they're doing.

 

[mowogo]

Hardy did not come out with them during the opening segment because they knew he would ruin the reaction they were trying to get. Jeff Hardy is huge in Fayetteville, and was not really booed the entire night. Remember, that whole segment was designed to get Immortal over as the heels, and while they did manage to do it after a struggle, Hardy would have made it impossible.

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

Hardy did not come out with them during the opening segment because they knew he would ruin the reaction they were trying to get. Jeff Hardy is huge in Fayetteville, and was not really booed the entire night. Remember, that whole segment was designed to get Immortal over as the heels, and while they did manage to do it after a struggle, Hardy would have made it impossible.

I never thought about that, it actually makes sense that Jeff Hardy wasn't there if would have ruined the reaction they wanted to get. Like i said earlier, the groups is a loose knit association of members. Think of it as a group similar to the Hells Angels, i.e. that they have worldwide membership but you don't expect the German chapters to fight alongside the members of the UK chapters if they already have their hands full with a rival gang in Germany.

 

[sislater69]

Hardy did not come out with them during the opening segment because they knew he would ruin the reaction they were trying to get. Jeff Hardy is huge in Fayetteville, and was not really booed the entire night. Remember, that whole segment was designed to get Immortal over as the heels, and while they did manage to do it after a struggle, Hardy would have made it impossible.

I'm not so sure. OK, I'm not American so I don't really understand the whole geographical aspect of it but Hardy is from N.C. right? So they would cheer him yes? Well if they cut Jeff from the group during that segment because of his popularity, would it not have made sense to cut Matt Hardy also? Or Ric Flair even?..

Anyway, to the OP's question. No. Jeff Jarrett is clearly still a member of immortal. So he may not come out with them each and every time, but there are segments a plenty of him back stage talking to Bischoff, even during the MMA bull****. In fact, didn't he have Bumbler and Girthy with him during that period?