Butcher Knife Division - Michael Myers vs Pinhead

[IrishCanadian25]

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Is this as evenly matched as it sounds? Both slashers have amazing backstories, both have similarly high body counts (Michael's is higher, since Pinhead wasn't always an antagonist), both have spawned numerous sequels. They both are very serious in their purpose, though Pinhead did speak and Michael did not. The question is - was the Mental Hospital escapee a better slasher than the Demon Cenobite from Leviathan?

 

[Dead Kennedy]

The original Halloween is one of those films that still scare me to some degree. Just something about the juxtaposition of creepy synthesized music and a guy in a painted mask. That alone gives him the victor against...

His opponent, the guy from one of the lamest film series I've personally watched. I've seen episodes of Sesame Street with scarier moments. I said it before, but it's just so overdone and cheesy. I can't take the films seriously. Pinhead is likely to lose to anyone else I've seen in this tournament, even Angela Baker.

 

[Mr. TM]

Listen to that sound? You know what is coming. Michael is out there. He is coming to slash you like very few could dream about. He is the king of killing in an atmosphere. I'm just heling him get along to the finals where he belongs. Pinhead is just out of his league here, no one takes him that seriously. Halloween on the other hand is one of the greatest movie sets.

 

[Monkey_Mania]

I personally like the Hellraiser series and Pinhead more than I do the Halloween series and Michael Myers. That being said, I have to go with Michael Myers in this one. Not too many people are more frightening looking than Pinhead. Like I said in a previous post. He scared the ever loving shit out of me just because of his looks. But... Michael Myers knows how to use a knife, and use it well. He may not look scary because of the mask. But thats just it. The fear of the unknown, which is far greater than what you can see. At least in my estimation.

Regretablly I give my vote to Michael Myers.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Let me elaborate on Monkey's post. The concept of the "Fear of the Unknown" with Michael Myers was never more apparent than in Halloween 2. There was a scene in which Michael was walking around ouside on Halloween Night, having just taken slugs from Loomis and after killing the first girl. He bumps into a kid with a boombox and hears that Laurie Strode has been taken to the hospital, so he starts heading that way.

Wait - WHY didn't anyone stop to notice the serial killer walking around on the streets? Because it was Halloween! EVERYONE had a mask or costume on, so it was normal. Does that freak anyon out? Walk around on Halloween, knowing that since the masks are normal, ANY ONE of the people you walk past could be on their way to try to kill their step sister.

 

[klunderbunker]

This is Myers, one of my two picks to win this whole thing. He is evil, plain and simple. There has been no one, save for maybe Jason, with a higher body count, but Pinhead does come close. Myers has an advantage though, in that he just doesn't give a fuck. As already mentioned, Pinhead wasn't always a villian. Myers on the other hand is the devil incarnate. How do you beat an unkillable monster with no regard for any human life and fueled by Satan himself?

Easy. You don't.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Myers didn't have any satanic connections. IN fact, the only ones in the tournament who did are Pinhead (he is a minion of Leviathan, King of the Dead), Chucky (uses a satanic ritual to place his soul in the dolls body), and possibly Tall Man. Myers, as is theorized, is possessed by a Celtic Druidic rune and ritual called Thorn. Jason is motivated by his own rage, based off of the desire to avenge the death of his mother. Freddy is just fucked in the head.

 

[klunderbunker]

Ah yes that's right. I got my horror movies mixed up. It was a cult of some form though. And I know Freddy was involved with at least demons. In I believe the Final Chapter, Freedy's backstory is shown and just before he is burned to death, three dream demons appear and offer him the power over dreams in exchange for his soul, or something similar to that. If nothing else it was very demon related.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Ah yes that's right. I got my horror movies mixed up. It was a cult of some form though. And I know Freddy was involved with at least demons. In I believe the Final Chapter, Freedy's backstory is shown and just before he is burned to death, three dream demons appear and offer him the power over dreams in exchange for his soul, or something similar to that. If nothing else it was very demon related.

You're going to kill me, KB, but I have to be the haughty, detail oriented horror geek I am. "The Final Chapter" was the 4th Friday the 13th film, whereas I think you're thinking of "Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare." In Freddy's Dead (arguably the 3rd best film of the series, behind the original and part 3), as the people of Springwood are torching Fred Krueger following his trial dismissal, Incan Dream Demons come to Freddy and offer him the power to be immortal and haunt the dreams of the living. He is offered this power due to the fact that the Incan Dream Demons can only exist in the evilest soul.

In Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers (the 6th installment, starring Paul Rudd), it is revealed that Michael has been infected with the Thorn curse, which is the English translation for the word "Thurisaz." It has Norse roots as well, since the "Thurse" were the minions of the Norse God "Thor." The runic curse itself dooms the infected person to kill his or her family as a sacrifice for the good of the entire tribe. This is why, in Halloween 4, Michael remains comatic until during the scene in which he is being transported from Smiths Grove Sanitarium to Ridgemont Sanitarium. Michael is docile until one of the EMT's mentions that his only living relative is a neice in Haddonfield, which causes Michael's rage to return and the killing spree to recommence. It can be speculated that he remained comatose with the belief that the explosion at the end of Halloween 2 killed his only other living relative, Laurie Strode.

The folks at the Halloween franchise did some fantastic research for Halloween 4-6. The Thurisaz rune is in many books and works ranging from occultism to simple mythology, and to use it to explain Michael's unquenchable killing instinct, I felt, was genius. It's just too bad all of that research and writing took a back seat to bullshit teeny bopper horror (thanks, Scream!) and in H20, all three of those films were treated as though they had never happened.

 

[My$terio_Fan]

Just watched the "new" Halloween movie directed by Rob Zombie today actually. While it's not as good as the older one's I like how they took time to explain why Michael is this way and go back into his back story. Michael even at the age of 12 was a monster. Killing his own sister is pretty messed up. He is a killing machine and although he does feel remorse once in a while he still is a cold hearted slasher and one of the best.

 

[AMERICANFIRE]

myers could win the tournament. it will come down to him and jacen. this killer is the only one who stands a chance against Jacen. i have watched the new one to. it does a great deal of explaining why he is so cold hearted. he gets teased all of his young life by family and people at school. he then goes from killing animals to people his first being a school bully. myers also has one of the best music themes of all time slasher movies. to me it is the best by far and gives me the creeps every time. myers also has some of the most successful sequales of all time to.