Bulls

[wcwfan]

They wont get rid of Gordon.. Hes there future.. If they got rid of anyone or anything, it be a draft pick.. PJ Brown still produces for being 37 I believe and so does Wallace.. People need to get over the fact that he isnt a scoring threat.. He never was.. Hes there to play D and get Boards, and hes doing so.. The one thing they need is a star player.. Once they get that.. Then Bulls = NBA Championship

IF he is the future then there future is in trouble. Have you seen this guy play. He's a six foot two girl who cant play d and right now cant make a shot. Thats how he's been since he got to the nba, he coulb be a great scorer but its just to sparatic to be someones future. Its his third season and he came in after his junior season in college the time is now. Hinrich,thomas,and next years draft pick is there futre every one else is exspendible.

He's 37. What could you get for him? The Hornets got Tyson Chandler for him (and JR Smith) so it's not like he's not tradeable.I'm not suggesting that he should be traded but it's not like he's not still someone that could be of value to a team.

JR Smith was the main piece in that trade brown was just a pond that the bulls could use. Browns trade value alone doesnt equal chandlers alone and you would be crazy to think you could get anyone worth anything in a straight up deal with brown.

They need a lost post scorer and they really don't have that.

i agree with you bot it wont come via a trade for brown or wallace. the best piece they have is gordon while his value is still high enough they could get a young post player of equal value ie. a Sean May who have shown the ability to score in the post when giving playing time. The bobcats have Primo a center and okafor at the four, who is playing like a beast in side of late, Melvin ely and jake voskul come of the bench so they have enough size inside to spare May. They are also looking for more scoreing punch and until Morrinson figures it out they dont have much there. Ben gordon would really help out there. I really like may potential that would be a great trade for both tems cause the bulls wouldnt lose much cause they have a gang of perimiter players.

star player doesnt just =championship. Plus you don't even need a superstar to win a championship...The Pistons proved that in 89-90 and 04

Isiah Thomas wasnt a superstar? and Joe dumars isnt in the hall of fame for nothing. I dont care what you say but the 04 pistons won with four all star. Ben was an all star that year and he was like 2nd or third team all nba that year. Rasheed was just an all star like two years before that and Billups and Hamilton was on there way to all star games. they were all star players. And even if I give you the 04 piston for what ever reason no way on the 89 team, give me more then one time were a starless team ever won. you need stars. Hinrich is a star in the making,and thomas has the potetential to be a smaller Amare Stoudamire, thats why I say that they're a year away

 

[whitesoxxx1]

everybody, relax. give the bulls time, they have a history of having a slow november. once they get going, they will get into the playoffs, and make a run, led by veterans ben wallace and pj brown (who sucks mightely), and kirk hinrich, ben gordon, and andres nocioni, who have hearts like lions

 

[PauLwaLL]

I think its funny how all of a sudden, just because The Bulls got Wallace, everyones marking out for them.. The Bulls still need 2 or 3 years to get everything in place.. There my team, and I'm not scared to admit that they dont have all the pieces of the puzzle just yet... But, maybe next year, they'll make a solid run.. I'm thinking this year, they'll be around the 3-6 seed in the East..

 

[G-Money]

IF he is the future then there future is in trouble. Have you seen this guy play. He's a six foot two girl who cant play d and right now cant make a shot. Thats how he's been since he got to the nba, he coulb be a great scorer but its just to sparatic to be someones future. Its his third season and he came in after his junior season in college the time is now. Hinrich,thomas,and next years draft pick is there futre every one else is exspendible.JR Smith was the main piece in that trade brown was just a pond that the bulls could use. Browns trade value alone doesnt equal chandlers alone and you would be crazy to think you could get anyone worth anything in a straight up deal with brown. i agree with you bot it wont come via a trade for brown or wallace. the best piece they have is gordon while his value is still high enough they could get a young post player of equal value ie. a Sean May who have shown the ability to score in the post when giving playing time. The bobcats have Primo a center and okafor at the four, who is playing like a beast in side of late, Melvin ely and jake voskul come of the bench so they have enough size inside to spare May. They are also looking for more scoreing punch and until Morrinson figures it out they dont have much there. Ben gordon would really help out there. I really like may potential that would be a great trade for both tems cause the bulls wouldnt lose much cause they have a gang of perimiter players.Isiah Thomas wasnt a superstar? and Joe dumars isnt in the hall of fame for nothing. I dont care what you say but the 04 pistons won with four all star. Ben was an all star that year and he was like 2nd or third team all nba that year. Rasheed was just an all star like two years before that and Billups and Hamilton was on there way to all star games. they were all star players. And even if I give you the 04 piston for what ever reason no way on the 89 team, give me more then one time were a starless team ever won. you need stars. Hinrich is a star in the making,and thomas has the potetential to be a smaller Amare Stoudamire, thats why I say that they're a year away

The 04 pistons didnt have a star. Yes Ben and Rasheed had been in the allstar game before they won the championship and when people say star they mean flashy people with crazy dunks, huge egos, get highlights of them on ESPN like all the time or someone that avgs 25-30+ pts a game. The Pistons havent had a person like that since Stackhouse how avg 29.9pts...but we didnt win anything with him.

The 04 Pistons or even these Pistons today didnt care who was the hero of the night, as long as they won the game.

So no we didnt have a true star or superstar on the 04 Pistons. Sorry but thats a fact.

And what I like about these Pistons is they don't give a shit about being on Magazines, highlights on ESPN or have huge egos. Hell Rasheed didnt even want to be in the all star game last year.

As for the 89 Pistons, yes we did have stars but they were very unselfish and played as a team. But I wasnt talking about them.

 

[whitesoxxx1]

ok everybody relax. ben gordon or deng needs to be traded, more likely luol deng. he plays absolutely no defense. ben wallace's age is catching up to him, along with all the wear-and-tear on his body from the past seasons. but, he is still respected. p.j. brown is worth-less, except for his veteran leadership. nocioni is great defensively. he almost averages 2 charges a game, but at times he can really get takin to school. the bulls need a 6'7" guard, like a paul pierce, who they almost got last year. ben gordon is too inconsistent, and they need him to be consistent, because when he's not, he doesnt score, and that forces other guys to score that cant. so, their best bet is trade deng or gordon. they need a perimeter scorer. also, remember: the bulls have had a history of starting out slow. they will start gettin hot in the near future

 

[G-Money]

ok everybody relax. ben gordon or deng needs to be traded, more likely luol deng. he plays absolutely no defense. ben wallace's age is catching up to him, along with all the wear-and-tear on his body from the past seasons. but, he is still respected. p.j. brown is worth-less, except for his veteran leadership. nocioni is great defensively. he almost averages 2 charges a game, but at times he can really get takin to school. the bulls need a 6'7" guard, like a paul pierce, who they almost got last year. ben gordon is too inconsistent, and they need him to be consistent, because when he's not, he doesnt score, and that forces other guys to score that cant. so, their best bet is trade deng or gordon. they need a perimeter scorer. also, remember: the bulls have had a history of starting out slow. they will start gettin hot in the near future

They also have a history of getting knocked out in the first round. They will get knocked out in the first round in the near future as well.

 

[whitesoxxx1]

yea, i wont disagree with that. but look out for them next year: if the knicks are the worst team, and they draw the #1 pick lottery ball, the bulls get their pick, just like last year