IrishCanadian25
Going on 10 years with WrestleZone
Before the polls open and the discussion gets hot and heavy, I want to take a moment to express the tremendous gap that exists between Big Van Vader and Rowdy Roddy Piper, and why for all intents and purposes, Vader should defeat Piper by roughly an 8-1 margin.
1. The size advantage
This one is easy. Vader outweights Piper by, well, basically another Piper. And since Piper is neither a) strong enough to muscle the big man around, nor b) fast enough to utilize a stick-and-move strategy, he's helpless to the big man's immensity.
2. The brawling aspect
Piper was never a technical marvel. He wasn't a high flyer. He was an all-out brawler / fighter. He comes straight at you, which is the worst possible strategy to employ against Big Van Vader. Why? Because Vader is a better, stronger, and tougher brawler than Piper. Show me all the videos you want of Piper smashing a beer bottle over his head and bleeding - I'll counter with Vader popping his eye back into his head to finish a match with a true legendary brawler in Stan Hansen. I'll take Vader's uppercuts in the corner over Piper's short jabs any day of the week.
3. The agility thing
I can't recall ever seeing Piper come off the top rope. I can't recall Vader ever NOT using his amazing agility and ariel assault to flatten his opponents. Hell, even Jack Swagger has been inspired by the Big Van Crush (turnbuckle extending splash) and has parlayed it into his own finisher. Piper is just outmanned and outclassed.
4. The history
Piper is to World Championships what the NY Mets are to no-hitters. A non-factor. Piper has held really just two major titles - WWF Intercontinental (he won it from...THE MOUNTIE) and WCW United States. He went into WCW like a ball of fire, feuding with the Hogans and Flairs of the world, and shortly thereafter, became Buff Bagwell's bitch in the creation of the Judy Bagwell saga. Vader, on the other hand, has been a World Champion on more than one occassion in Japan, Mexico, Germany, and the United States. Where Piper routinely lost big matches, Vader often won them.
There is nothing Piper has on Vader, outside of a great interview. And that won't win you a match. You have to back the mouth up, and in a match like this one, Piper doesn't have enough ammo. He's attacking a tank with a toothpick.
Vader wins, HUGE.
1. The size advantage
This one is easy. Vader outweights Piper by, well, basically another Piper. And since Piper is neither a) strong enough to muscle the big man around, nor b) fast enough to utilize a stick-and-move strategy, he's helpless to the big man's immensity.
2. The brawling aspect
Piper was never a technical marvel. He wasn't a high flyer. He was an all-out brawler / fighter. He comes straight at you, which is the worst possible strategy to employ against Big Van Vader. Why? Because Vader is a better, stronger, and tougher brawler than Piper. Show me all the videos you want of Piper smashing a beer bottle over his head and bleeding - I'll counter with Vader popping his eye back into his head to finish a match with a true legendary brawler in Stan Hansen. I'll take Vader's uppercuts in the corner over Piper's short jabs any day of the week.
3. The agility thing
I can't recall ever seeing Piper come off the top rope. I can't recall Vader ever NOT using his amazing agility and ariel assault to flatten his opponents. Hell, even Jack Swagger has been inspired by the Big Van Crush (turnbuckle extending splash) and has parlayed it into his own finisher. Piper is just outmanned and outclassed.
4. The history
Piper is to World Championships what the NY Mets are to no-hitters. A non-factor. Piper has held really just two major titles - WWF Intercontinental (he won it from...THE MOUNTIE) and WCW United States. He went into WCW like a ball of fire, feuding with the Hogans and Flairs of the world, and shortly thereafter, became Buff Bagwell's bitch in the creation of the Judy Bagwell saga. Vader, on the other hand, has been a World Champion on more than one occassion in Japan, Mexico, Germany, and the United States. Where Piper routinely lost big matches, Vader often won them.
There is nothing Piper has on Vader, outside of a great interview. And that won't win you a match. You have to back the mouth up, and in a match like this one, Piper doesn't have enough ammo. He's attacking a tank with a toothpick.
Vader wins, HUGE.