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What's the point? This is his 5th reign as US Champion, his first two reigns were in 1999, and his last three reigns (including this one) have come after winning the World Heavyweight Championship at WrestleMania. That doesn't make sense to me, it's pointless. Benoit should be competing for World Championships, and nothing less. After a wrestler becomes World Champion, it's dumb for them to keep getting pushed down to the mid-card to compete for lesser titles, like Benoit has. He should've been a permanent main-eventer ever since winning the WHC.
justinsayne
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It seems like thier doing the same thing to Benoit that they did to Jericho, Let him win the big one then give him a bunch of secondary titles, I'd rather see him in the main events wrestleing for the heavyweight title, and what was the hurry in taking the U.S. title off Kennedy anyways, they should have kept the title on him for a couple more months then dropped back to someone like Lashley, perhaps they should have Benoit feud with Finley or Regal and drop the title to one of them and put him in a feud with the heavy weight champion
Yeah above i must say that you have a point. This is why they are not bumping cena down. I actually like beniot as us cham but i know what he deserves and thats the whc belt he deserves it more than anyone on the sd Roster NEXT TO UNDERTAKER(because takers a sav.) So yeah i agree with what you say
Im talking about what shayx said btw
Im talking about what shayx said btw
jefferson411
Championship Contender
justinsayne said:
First off, I like how they took the belt of Kennedy for this simple reason: it makes it seem unpredictable. Who thought that was going to happen. It is possible they wanted to provide the "anything can happen" feeling. I remember a few years back a title or two switched hands at house shows to make it seem like every title match mattered.
There is no excuse for Benoit not being champion, or being in the race for it. Talent wise he is the best, he is over with fans, and can sell as much merchandise as the other guys (except I think Batista out sells him most likely). I don't think WWE is trying to slap him in the face, but to us fans that is what it seems like.
The problem with the logic that once you have been Heavyweight or WWE champion then you cant go for secondary titles is that once a wrestler hits the top he can't do anything but go for that title, or no title at all. And considering how many guys can and have won the title, do you know how many wrestlers are going to be bored until the it's there turn again, if their turn ever comes back around. I think it is okay every once in a while that one of these guys goes in and holds a lower belt for a while, especially if it leads to getting a younger superstar over. HHH shouldnt because he is a 10 time champion, Flair shouldnt have when he did cause he is a 16 timer, and the list of guys who shouldn't goes on and on because of the amount of times they held or their status in history. Benoit, being a one time champion, seems alright with the US title, even though there is no doubt that he should be competing higher.
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ric flair won the ic belt and he is a 16 time world champ just because your a former world champ doesn't mean you cant hold a lower belt
pauliminator
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justinsayne said:
I just have to say that it was awesome seeing him win the title in his return to Smackdown. He won his first 2 matches back, but one was at No Mercy and the other was on Raw. What needs to happen is Mr. Kennedy go to Raw. They should end this whole Kennedy-Taker feud and put Kane and Taker back together. Maybe next week, Kane/Taker vs. MVP/Kennedy. That would be a great match. Now if you think that Finlay should win the title, you're wrong there. Right now it only looks like Finlay will be competing for the World Title, because it's so obvious that he's turning on King Booker soon. So, it doesn't look like he'll be fighting for the US title soon. Regal is a good choice though. The only titles he's won in WWE are tag team and european. He deserves the US title too. Sorry, I forgot about the IC title.
Wall_of_Jericho
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justinsayne said:
I think they took the title off Kennedy because they are gonna move him to RAW which again handicaps Smackdown because they have lost another up and coming star.
pauliminator
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Wall_of_Jericho said:
they'll probably have another loser leaves smackdown match between taker and kennedy. either kennedy goes to raw so taker and kane will team up, or taker will lose cause they don't want to put them back together.
I was a waste of time giving the title to Kennedy. It has'nt elevated his career because he very rarely defended it. They should have kept it on Finlay and Have him drop it to Benoit. I think there going to build Kennedy up now, I can see him main eventing W.M. I dont see the point of giving the title to Benoit he does'nt need it to get over.
Kasey
Connoiseur of the MILF
This title change was so irrelevant and stupid I can hardly put it into words: But I'll try. First of all, Benoit shouldn't be competing for anything less than a World strap. He's earned his spot in the upper echelon and can work better than nearly anyone in all three WWE locker rooms. Second, he's over without having to use a gimmick, and he has been since the Clinton Administration.
As far as Kennedy is concerned, he deserves to get actual pins over his opponents. If they want to elevate the guy (and they should), they need to have some of the others he "defeats" actually lay down. Having a DQ win over one of the top guys is completely moot. They've spent months wasting Kennedy's return. He has the mic skills and selling ability to hang with ANYONE in the business. Even if the guy has to cheat, give him a damn pinfall victory over one of the big guys for pete's sake. If he can sell a twenty minute encounter with Callaway, what the hell would be so bad about him getting a near-clean pinfall on the guy? It makes Kennedy look as harmful as an eight-year-old asthmatic.
As far as the match goes, I think it was the worst performance by either wrestler that I've ever seen. There was no cohesion, no genuine action, and no build. I wish I could've fast-forwarded through the whole thing, but I made the mistake of watching it live, instead of what I typically do, and watch it on tape. Benoit needs to watch his old WCW and NJPW tapes and figure out just what the hell he wants to do with his wrestling. Last Night's encounter was a joke. I expect better from him.
As far as Kennedy is concerned, he deserves to get actual pins over his opponents. If they want to elevate the guy (and they should), they need to have some of the others he "defeats" actually lay down. Having a DQ win over one of the top guys is completely moot. They've spent months wasting Kennedy's return. He has the mic skills and selling ability to hang with ANYONE in the business. Even if the guy has to cheat, give him a damn pinfall victory over one of the big guys for pete's sake. If he can sell a twenty minute encounter with Callaway, what the hell would be so bad about him getting a near-clean pinfall on the guy? It makes Kennedy look as harmful as an eight-year-old asthmatic.
As far as the match goes, I think it was the worst performance by either wrestler that I've ever seen. There was no cohesion, no genuine action, and no build. I wish I could've fast-forwarded through the whole thing, but I made the mistake of watching it live, instead of what I typically do, and watch it on tape. Benoit needs to watch his old WCW and NJPW tapes and figure out just what the hell he wants to do with his wrestling. Last Night's encounter was a joke. I expect better from him.
cmiller9291
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i think they might/should have benot have the us title but still be in the hunt for the world title, like what jbl did earlier in the year.
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wrestling247
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If rey loses he is going to raw, so i dont think that kennedy is going anywhere
Chain Gang MVP
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Alright, I am sick of everyone complaining about Benoit's status. Everyone seems to feel that Benoit has been misuesed ever since his world title reign in '04 came to an end. You people should understand that Benoit is not the only wrestler who was given spotlight and had it taken from him. There are plenty of superstars who after winning the world title who have been taken out of the main event picture.
Here are some examples:
Kane-When he debuted, he had a big fued with Taker. But after that, you would think that someone who gets that status would eventually become a major player in the main events. But that didn't happen. Kane won the WWE title, but WWE took it away from him the next day without giving him a chance(I'm surprised he is so loyal to the company). Kane then spent most of his time either in feuds with mid-carters(most of which were very lame) or in the Tag Team division.
Chris Jericho-After his title reign, he started to get pushed down. He feuded with top stars like HBK and Goldberg, but later started to feud with
mid-carters like Christian(he was never a big star in WWE, which is why he jumped ship to TNA IMO). After being put back in the IC division, Chris Jericho got sick of being depushed and decided to quit. His WWE title feud with Cena was just the WWE's way of setting him off.
Eddie Guerrero-After he lost the title to JBL, he started a big feud with Angle but was eventually lowered to hanging out with a cruserweight(who IMO would not have become champion if it wasn't for Eddie's own death). They then decided to put him in a title feud with Batista. When Batista was injured around Survivor Series of last year, they then decided to give Eddie the title. But we all know why that didn't happen.
That's all I can come up with right now.
Here are some examples:
Kane-When he debuted, he had a big fued with Taker. But after that, you would think that someone who gets that status would eventually become a major player in the main events. But that didn't happen. Kane won the WWE title, but WWE took it away from him the next day without giving him a chance(I'm surprised he is so loyal to the company). Kane then spent most of his time either in feuds with mid-carters(most of which were very lame) or in the Tag Team division.
Chris Jericho-After his title reign, he started to get pushed down. He feuded with top stars like HBK and Goldberg, but later started to feud with
mid-carters like Christian(he was never a big star in WWE, which is why he jumped ship to TNA IMO). After being put back in the IC division, Chris Jericho got sick of being depushed and decided to quit. His WWE title feud with Cena was just the WWE's way of setting him off.
Eddie Guerrero-After he lost the title to JBL, he started a big feud with Angle but was eventually lowered to hanging out with a cruserweight(who IMO would not have become champion if it wasn't for Eddie's own death). They then decided to put him in a title feud with Batista. When Batista was injured around Survivor Series of last year, they then decided to give Eddie the title. But we all know why that didn't happen.
That's all I can come up with right now.
I have many problems to this title reign. #1, Kennedy was suppose to be in for a major push in the wwe, if im not mistaken. How does Kennedy gain this push by being squashed by the Undertaker(though he won by dq, he was destroyed afterwards) and then losing his title on smackdown. What this is, quite frankly, is more or less burying Kennedy. I really do hope the WWE has a point to what they are doing, as maybe give Kennedy the title again after chasing it for a while(he never actually chased for the title in the first place). A possible feud with Benoit would be good for Kennedy, but who knows what WWE is thinking. #2 The fact that they ruined Benoit's return. It was a big thing with Benoit returning to SD!(because of their lack of big name draws) and they had him have a match with Regal(though I did quite enjoy it as it was a throwback to old school wrestling). Then they had Benoit go to raw and win there. Now, instead of having Benoit come to SD! and say, get involved with the main title picture(im sorry but Booker has no compatibility in the ring with Batista/Lashley/Finlay) but a Benoit/Booker feud would be good to heat up SD! But no, instead they have Benoit win the US title and bury him there, like there isn't even anyone gunning for the title i guess besides Kennedy, so whats the point(Kennedy/Taker match was a non-title). Benoit doesn't need the US title, he's held it enough and deserves another run with the Heavyweight title, just don't know if the WWE will have that happen...
ok heres the deal guys...
Benoits win- Benoit was given the us title right off the bat in an attempt by creative to show that he can win that title at his will, whenever the hell he wants. Its not downplaying benoit, they just have a feud goin on with the world title hunt, so with three guys trying to get the title already, they allowed benoit the chance to show everyone he can get any other title whenever he wants... eventually hell move back up, nows just not the time.
Kennedys loss- It doesnt kill anything WWE is building up with him. I myself thought the smartest way to get him over well was to give him a longggg reign, like 4 months or so, maybe even like 8 months, but they have diff plans which i feel will work too. Hes feuding with THE UNDERTAKER, i mean, the undertaker!!! the first match ended between them with a dq just to keep the feud going. If this feud is succesful, Kennedy will be way more over than he wouldve been just by having the us title... and u know they arent giving taker the us title, which prolly means taker will win the feud. (not sure who should win) But the fact remains is this will help out kennedys exposure and popularity, he just hasta provide and entertaining storyline, which he probably will.
on a side note... i feel that the best smackdown feud of the yr so far was benoit vs jbl for the US title... it was a rly good feud with some good matches... dont down play the title so much... keep in mind also that benoit only won the world title once, the rest of his career in wwe hes been a US heavyweight guy, hes not much on the mic, and thats something vince usually isnt very fond of... that being said... i still believe he will get another world title run, probably not within the next yr tho seeing as batista is most likely gonna go into Wrestlemania with the title... or hell win it at wrestlemania, and i dont see that feud being with benoit.
Benoits win- Benoit was given the us title right off the bat in an attempt by creative to show that he can win that title at his will, whenever the hell he wants. Its not downplaying benoit, they just have a feud goin on with the world title hunt, so with three guys trying to get the title already, they allowed benoit the chance to show everyone he can get any other title whenever he wants... eventually hell move back up, nows just not the time.
Kennedys loss- It doesnt kill anything WWE is building up with him. I myself thought the smartest way to get him over well was to give him a longggg reign, like 4 months or so, maybe even like 8 months, but they have diff plans which i feel will work too. Hes feuding with THE UNDERTAKER, i mean, the undertaker!!! the first match ended between them with a dq just to keep the feud going. If this feud is succesful, Kennedy will be way more over than he wouldve been just by having the us title... and u know they arent giving taker the us title, which prolly means taker will win the feud. (not sure who should win) But the fact remains is this will help out kennedys exposure and popularity, he just hasta provide and entertaining storyline, which he probably will.
on a side note... i feel that the best smackdown feud of the yr so far was benoit vs jbl for the US title... it was a rly good feud with some good matches... dont down play the title so much... keep in mind also that benoit only won the world title once, the rest of his career in wwe hes been a US heavyweight guy, hes not much on the mic, and thats something vince usually isnt very fond of... that being said... i still believe he will get another world title run, probably not within the next yr tho seeing as batista is most likely gonna go into Wrestlemania with the title... or hell win it at wrestlemania, and i dont see that feud being with benoit.
undertaker69
Pre-Show Stalwart
yea he may not be good on the mike he doesnt need 2 b i mean just look at sabu he barely says anything buts a main eventer
justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
Did you see the same match I saw, Benoit didn't win the title at will, Taker came out and distracted Kennedy, then Benoit took advantage of the distration and won the match.
Am I the only person that thinks the U.S. tilte has been changing hands way to much, since this time last year it has gone from Benoit to Booker back to Benoit then to JBL, JBL then lost it to Lashley who lost it to Finley who lost it in a triple threat to Kennedy, who as we all know lost it to Benoit last Friday. Why not let someone, like an up and commer hold the title for a copule months then have them lose it at a ppv instead of smackdown!. It just seems to me that so many title changes takes take the legitamacy of the title away
Am I the only person that thinks the U.S. tilte has been changing hands way to much, since this time last year it has gone from Benoit to Booker back to Benoit then to JBL, JBL then lost it to Lashley who lost it to Finley who lost it in a triple threat to Kennedy, who as we all know lost it to Benoit last Friday. Why not let someone, like an up and commer hold the title for a copule months then have them lose it at a ppv instead of smackdown!. It just seems to me that so many title changes takes take the legitamacy of the title away
justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
for Benoits return, they should've waited to the main event, then when Finley, Lashley, and Batista are in the ring waiting for the bell, Teddy Long would come out and annouce that theirs still one more person to be enterd in this match, then have Benoits music hit, and hear the fans go nuts!!!
That would have been way better then Benoit comming back and winning the U.S. title from Kennedy
That would have been way better then Benoit comming back and winning the U.S. title from Kennedy
Legendkiller64
Occasional Pre-Show
Its cool benoit won but he should be going for the whc title.
crippler2525
sensei
I think chris has everything to be a world champion,he has the abilities to do so,since his last run as world champion he has been n the midcard for so long and I think its time for him to be a main eventer again
Kasey
Connoiseur of the MILF
The belt has zero prestige and is nothing more than a slight elevator of pops when one guy beats another. Hell I remember when the crowd would go nuts in years past over guys defending the belt. Whether it was Sting, Luger, or a number of other athletes who gave that belt credibility. Now it's nothing more than a party favor because the matches and angles surrounding it are as interesting as watching snails mate.justinsayne said:
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The US title has become a joke and the fact that they have Beniot holding just means that they dont know what to do with him and they are trying to make him look important by being a "champ" They are probably going to make Beniot lose the US title to Chavo and really mess up that title. They should get rid of it cause it hasnt been a title worth talking about since John Cena had it.
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