Batista is an overrated hack

[Christian Battlez]

At this point he has become god awful. Back in his Evolution days he was pretty good I enjoyed his work during his Tag Team days with Flair. Even back in 2005 when he was the World Heavyweight champion he may have been his best. But now hes become truly dreadful.

When he works with a good worker like Jericho or Orton he makes them look like shit. He is slow , he is clumsy, he does like three moves a match. I'm not pulling a smark like of he only knows three moves here because I know he knows more than three. He just only uses three signature moves in his matches. He's a poor mans Goldberg. Other than his three signatures he just does clotheslines and beats on you. He doesn't entertain which is the point. When he cuts promos he just angrily yells shit at the world. He lived off Triple H and Ric Flair's coattails for 6 years now. Leave us already I can't wait until he retires. He doesn't even have time to improve he's in his forties and already hit his prime four years ago.

 

[Miko]

Batista to me is a shit Ultimate Warrior, thats no insult from me, I may be a minority but I think Warrior was fantastic.

Anyway, Batista's best days were during his fueds with Edge, Undertaker and John Cena, Evolution Batista was crap to me, the Batista who won the title off HHH was dogshit as well, put on some of the most boring matches of all time and was just totally akward to watch.

I'd say he came into his own during his fued with Eddie Guerrero, from then he improved and he was a crapper version of John Cena, still decent but still second to Cena. Put on some great matches with Undertaker and Edge and was generally quite entertaining.

Now on the other hand, he can still go when he's motivated, sadly he's only really motivated if he's going to beat someone like Cena and win a title. So Batista's still got it in my opinion, when he's not being a lazy prick.

 

[Christian Battlez]

Batista to me is a shit Ultimate Warrior, thats no insult from me, I may be a minority but I think Warrior was fantastic.

Anyway, Batista's best days were during his fueds with Edge, Undertaker and John Cena, Evolution Batista was crap to me, the Batista who won the title off HHH was dogshit as well, put on some of the most boring matches of all time and was just totally akward to watch.

I'd say he came into his own during his fued with Eddie Guerrero, from then he improved and he was a crapper version of John Cena, still decent but still second to Cena. Put on some great matches with Undertaker and Edge and was generally quite entertaining.

Now on the other hand, he can still go when he's motivated, sadly he's only really motivated if he's going to beat someone like Cena and win a title. So Batista's still got it in my opinion, when he's not being a lazy prick.

Warrior was great, and I agree with you his matches with Undertaker and Edge were very good. But remember the fact that Edge and Taker are two of WWE's best workers. His latest surgery is hampering his already limited in-ring skill so he needs to retire soon. Hopefully after he puts Cena over at Mania this year.

 

[HansChristianFrankenstein]

There's nothing wrong with Batista, it's the WWE style that sucks. EVERYBODY in WWE is only allowed to have a few moves in their arsenal. And plus, look at who he's working with. He put on great matches with Taker but now he's stuck working with Orton who sucks the life out of everything he's a part of. You can't blame Batista.

 

[Christian Battlez]

There's nothing wrong with Batista, it's the WWE style that sucks. EVERYBODY in WWE is only allowed to have a few moves in their arsenal. And plus, look at who he's working with. He put on great matches with Taker but now he's stuck working with Orton who sucks the life out of everything he's a part of. You can't blame Batista.

I CAN blame Batista very easily. If its the WWE style thats holding Batista back tell me somewhere else he had some merit then. When did Batista defy crowds in TNA and Mexico with his extreme Lucha Libre style. He is a slow, clumsy hack. Working with Orton is the only thing making him passable. Its making Orton look bad not Batista.

 

[HansChristianFrankenstein]

LOL Yeah, Batista's the problem not Orton. That's why the ratings go down everytime Orton is the focus of the show. It was Batista's fault that the ratings tanked during Orton's fued with HHH. It's Batista's fault that Orton gets no crowd reaction. Batista learned voodoo from Papa Shango.

 

[Miko]

[QUOTE="The Olympic Hero" Christian Battlez;1088016]Warrior was great, and I agree with you his matches with Undertaker and Edge were very good. But remember the fact that Edge and Taker are two of WWE's best workers.[/QUOTE]

Point taken.

His latest surgery is hampering his already limited in-ring skill so he needs to retire soon. Hopefully after he puts Cena over at Mania this year.

Motivated Batista can have a good match with most of the roster, unmotivated and well, he doesnt. I'd watch Big Dave over Randy Orton though, anyday.

Hopefully after he puts Cena over at Mania this year.

I agree, he should never have beaten Cena in the first place.

 

[Christian Battlez]

Point taken.



Motivated Batista can have a good match with most of the roster, unmotivated and well, he doesnt. I'd watch Big Dave over Randy Orton though, anyday.

I fail to see why.

 

[uhdorablexloser]

I agree whole heartedly. Batista is crap. I cannot stand watching any of his matches. People think that just because he's a big guy that he has a shitload of talent when in reality, he's not that great. Kind of like Tony Romo. People think he's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL and expect him to "lead the 'Boys to the superbowl" every damn year. Has he made it there yet? No.

Batista is overrated, period.

 

[BooCocky]

[QUOTE="The Olympic Hero" Christian Battlez;1090253]I fail to see why.[/QUOTE]

Batista doesn't do 35,0000 chinlocks and rest holds in one match. Dave is a very talented professional wrestler. One of the best workers in the business today and honestly, its hard to say he is overrated when he gets a great reaction...

 

[Christian Battlez]

Batista doesn't do 35,0000 chinlocks and rest holds in one match. Dave is a very talented professional wrestler. One of the best workers in the business today and honestly, its hard to say he is overrated when he gets a great reaction...

I have never seen Orton do 35,000 chinlocks or restholds in a match and if you counted them you have no life. How is Dave a very talented professional wrestler? Unless there is another Dave your referring to that isn't Batista? Like maybe David Hart Smith. That must be who your talking about. Who cares if a bunch of little kids give Batista a reaction. It's because he is a good guy not because he is a great wrestler.

 

[HansChristianFrankenstein]

[QUOTE="The Olympic Hero" Christian Battlez;1090537]I have never seen Orton do 35,000 chinlocks or restholds in a match and if you counted them you have no life.[/QUOTE]

Yeah...he was exaggerating. The point is that Orton is boring on the mic and boring in the ring. I wouldn't be surprised if he puts HIMSELF to sleep one of these days.

 

[Christian Battlez]

Yeah...he was exaggerating. The point is that Orton is boring on the mic and boring in the ring. I wouldn't be surprised if he puts HIMSELF to sleep one of these days.

So was ...I. The point is Batista is even more boring than Orton on the mic if you call Orton boring. and Batista is dreadful in the ring. I'm sorry Orton bores you. But here is the deal. Orton's slow sadistic voice, his methodically paced matches are all part of his character. If the only argument you can come up with is the guy does alot of chinlocks im sorry you've lost. Have you ever thought maybe he does those chinlocks to slow down the pace of his matches as part of a more methodical approach? The way he stomps at his opponents appendages. Every strike is measured its all part of the deal. He is a viper who stalks his opponents. Batista moves awkwardly, his matches have no fluidity. The opponent has to work harder to sell slow dave's moves. He is clumsy and just an awful hack to watch. I guarantee you they will bill the match at Extreme Rules that Orton has no chance being locked with a caged animal then Orton will narrowly escape. Batista needs to go away. Im glad he is seriously considering retirement.

 

[Miko]

[QUOTE="The Olympic Hero" Christian Battlez;1090253]I fail to see why.[/QUOTE]

Unlike Orton he's interesting, he's intense, he is at least not dull

[QUOTE="The Olympic Hero" Christian Battlez;1090537]How is Dave a very talented professional wrestler?[/QUOTE]

People care about him, his matches dont bore and I think I was mistaken when I called him unmotivated earlier.

Unless there is another Dave your referring to that isn't Batista? Like maybe David Hart Smith. That must be who your talking about.

David Hart Smith? Nobody cared about him, he's fucking bland. At least now he's in a tag team that has a chance at success.

Who cares if a bunch of little kids give Batista a reaction. It's because he is a good guy not because he is a great wrestler.

If Batista were a heel he'd get booed out of the building, Batista gets cheered because he is good at what he does, otherwise every good guy would get the pops he does.

[QUOTE="The Olympic Hero" Christian Battlez;1090632]So was ...I. The point is Batista is even more boring than Orton on the mic if you call Orton boring.[/QUOTE]

Batista isnt given 20 minutes of mic time on every RAW, he takes the mic, says "I am gonna kick your ass" and proceeds to do it. Basically Batista's promo's have more substance than Orton's and he usually only says about 10 words.

and Batista is dreadful in the ring. I'm sorry Orton bores you. But here is the deal. Orton's slow sadistic voice, his methodically paced matches are all part of his character. If the only argument you can come up with is the guy does alot of chinlocks im sorry you've lost. Have you ever thought maybe he does those chinlocks to slow down the pace of his matches as part of a more methodical approach? The way he stomps at his opponents appendages. Every strike is measured its all part of the deal. He is a viper who stalks his opponents.

Never questioned his ring skills, just his characters effectiveness, if I cant get behind or against a character I'll never give a shit about what he can do in the ring. But as far as ring skills go, he's not bad.

Batista moves awkwardly,

Injuries, and he doesnt move that bad

his matches have no fluidity.

No fluidity? Better than most of HBK's work

The opponent has to work harder to sell slow dave's moves. He is clumsy and just an awful hack to watch. I guarantee you they will bill the match at Extreme Rules that Orton has no chance being locked with a caged animal then Orton will narrowly escape. Batista needs to go away. Im glad he is seriously considering retirement.

How is he clumsy? Batista of 2005 who had just won the title was clumsy, now he doesnt botch at all. His opponents work harder to sell his moves because he is a powerhouse, what good is a powerhouse who is no sold by his opponents?

Good call on the cage match, I wouldnt doubt that outcome.

 

[BooCocky]

[QUOTE="The Olympic Hero" Christian Battlez;1090537]I have never seen Orton do 35,000 chinlocks or restholds in a match and if you counted them you have no life. How is Dave a very talented professional wrestler? Unless there is another Dave your referring to that isn't Batista? Like maybe David Hart Smith. That must be who your talking about. Who cares if a bunch of little kids give Batista a reaction. It's because he is a good guy not because he is a great wrestler.[/QUOTE]

you're a freaking twat, it is Dave's job to get the fans to care. And he does that exceptionally well. You can call the guy average but he's had some good matches with Edge Taker Cena and some more.

You can call him boring on the mic, but I disagree, at least with Dave they don't give him 10+ plus minutes, they make him get right to the point. There is a reason why Dave was in the main event of a PPV for like 9 months straight.

 

[Christian Battlez]

you're a freaking twat, it is Dave's job to get the fans to care. And he does that exceptionally well. You can call the guy average but he's had some good matches with Edge Taker Cena and some more.

You can call him boring on the mic, but I disagree, at least with Dave they don't give him 10+ plus minutes, they make him get right to the point. There is a reason why Dave was in the main event of a PPV for like 9 months straight.

Edge,Cena,and Taker are three of WWE's best workers. Having good matches with them is neccessary. Orton has had plenty of great matches with those guys.

They don't give him ten minutes because ten minutes of mic time for Batista is like legal human torture. Thats why he gets to the point. So we don't have to listen to him. The reason why Dave was in nine straight ppv main events is because Vince has a fettish for roided up big men.

 

[Shocky]

Because he's buddies with the Boss's Son in Law?

 

[HansChristianFrankenstein]

[QUOTE="The Olympic Hero" Christian Battlez;1090632]So was ...I. The point is Batista is even more boring than Orton on the mic if you call Orton boring. and Batista is dreadful in the ring. I'm sorry Orton bores you. But here is the deal. Orton's slow sadistic voice, his methodically paced matches are all part of his character. If the only argument you can come up with is the guy does alot of chinlocks im sorry you've lost. Have you ever thought maybe he does those chinlocks to slow down the pace of his matches as part of a more methodical approach? The way he stomps at his opponents appendages. Every strike is measured its all part of the deal. He is a viper who stalks his opponents. Batista moves awkwardly, his matches have no fluidity. The opponent has to work harder to sell slow dave's moves. He is clumsy and just an awful hack to watch. I guarantee you they will bill the match at Extreme Rules that Orton has no chance being locked with a caged animal then Orton will narrowly escape. Batista needs to go away. Im glad he is seriously considering retirement.[/QUOTE]

Well all I can say is, your opinion doesn't seem to be shared by most. Most people consider Batista to be much more entertaining than Orton. Batista's intensity in the ring always get the crowd going, no matter if he's a heel or face. Then there's Orton who has crickets chirping during his "methodical approach". Batista's short and sweet promos also always get a big pop while Orton's "methodical promos" are so dull they usually don't even have the crowd lights on so you don't see people sleeping. Batista has also always drawn better ratings than Orton and that's a FACT, not an opinion like whos better in the ring.

 

[Takerfan9393]

Yes.