Anyone else tired of hearing about the Monday Night War?

[James Greiga]

This may just be the point of view of someone who actually lived through it but honestly I am tired of hearing about it. I remember watching the big announcement about the WWE Network and they showed a vignette about an original series dealing with the MNW and all I thought was "Oh god." Don't get me wrong I loved the attitude era but come on. They have put out DVDs over this stuff, they talk about the war in nearly every WWE documentary I have seen (and I've seen quite a bit) and after a while it gets kind of old. Sure nostalgia is one thing but not when you're constantly reminded of it. I have seen that DX invasion thing in so many DVDs it is ridiculous.

In 2004 it was interesting because we had never heard this stuff before and were still fresh off the battle. Now here we are in 2014 and they are still talking about it. I realize it is a portion of the company's history that can't and shouldn't be overlooked but to put it in every single documentary and then to create an "original" series for it? I guarantee in that "new show" (which it can't be that new considering most of the original programming was made about 3 years ago) there will be no new information, no shoots, and nothing controversial. I think constantly bringing this up is just WWE's way of latching on to what it used to be. By constantly reminding us of the MNW we constantly have to remember the Attitude era and that's WWE's way of saying "HEY guys look at that. Remember Austin? Remember Rock? Remember how great we used to be? PLEASE LOVE US LIKE THAT AGAIN!!!" To an extent I think it gets a bit pathetic on WWE's part and while they have criticized many wrestlers for not being able to retire and let their past go, WWE is no different. So I ask you, are you as annoyed by them constantly reminding you of the MNW as I am?

 

[TheOneAndOnlyGOAT]

1998-2000 was the greatest time to be a wrestling fan.

WWE has a lot of young viewers who don't know about the MNW.

I don't see what's the big deal is? If you don't want to watch it, simply don't.

 

[RomanReignsSpear]

No I never will I go back and watch that time period all the time.Hell today,I just watched the final Nitro/Raw is War 3/26/01.So,No never

 

[scomvp316]

It was an era most of us hardcore fans thought we would never see with all of the casual fans jumping on the bandwagon albeit a short period
I think the smart thing for WWE is to do is put out DVD's called the WrestlingWars and compare shows and PPV's of WWE vs WCW which also includes WWF vs JCP
Forgetting this era would be like the NHL not talking about the 80's with Gretzy or the NBA in the 90's with Jordan Just wouldn't make sense
To a certain point yes it has been talked about too much but other than Hogan's era we will never talk too much about the current product compared to the other two booming era's

 

[SD Jones]

If you start complaining about this kind of stuff there's no end to it. It was a fantastic period to be a wrestling fan. Every Monday night was treated like it could be the last, and it could well have been. Nothing was held back. There will never be excitement and energy like it. Personally, I don't think WWE places enough emphasis on its history. Hopefully the network changes that.

 

[EEZY]

Maybe I don't catch them mentioning the MNW as much as you, but I like hearing about it still. I was 9 years of age when Vince bought WCW. I like learning about the MNW because it was just a bit before my time. I like to see what made WCW better than WWE for 86 straight weeks. I like to see what WWE did to make themselves better than WCW. I enjoy watching the absolute crap that WCW put out during the last year or two of its existence. I recently watched Slamboree 2000. I am not sure how I didn't switch to something else. Ralphus? WTF? David Arquette was (again, was) funny and all but F that.

Anyway, I get how it can be annoying to hear about the same old shit over and over, but I like it because I either was too busy being a kid or simply don't remember every single thing about the attitude era and MNW. Its a simple reminder to me to watch what made me a fan of wrestling and why I keep watching it today. I still enjoy WWE today. It isn't a "roll a fatty for this pimp daddy" type of enjoyment, but I like it for what it is.

Its not like they mention the MNW like they did the app and now the network every hr on Raw. I do understand your annoyance, but im not annoyed by it.

 

[mlp420]

Anyone that watched then knows it's justified. Two promotions with equal popularity, star power, and production quality going at each other's throats and putting on the best shows possible every single week. Close to 11 million people watching wrestling every week, between the two companies. WWE knows it was their peak.

 

[rage72]

Anyone that watched then knows it's justified. Two promotions with equal popularity, star power, and production quality going at each other's throats and putting on the best shows possible every single week. Close to 11 million people watching wrestling every week, between the two companies. WWE knows it was their peak.

I agree 1000%. The MNW was huge and not only had some of the top performers in the history of the business (Hogan, Savage, Flair, Sting, HBK, Taker and Piper) but created some of the top stars/future HOFers like Austin, The Rock, HHH, Kurt Angle, Mick Foley and Jericho. It also had 2 of the most popular stables ever with the NWO and DX. It was truly the greatest time to be a fan.

 

[oldschool26]

The reason why they Are hyping it more
Is because there is a loose end and wwe
Are trying to get today's people familiar with that era
Because they have signed the loose end.

His name is sting

Attitude era was awesome sting vs nwo,
Austin vs rock, taker vs mankind and many more.
The storylines were amazing. Fueds were top.
Not to mention, the divas lol wwe struggles these days
and keep ruining pushes. Reminds of all the fuck ups
Wcw did

 

[haydo 434]

How could you get tired of the monday night wars? I mean the unpredictability of every show is something that is not seen anymore.
During the attitude era these performers put their bodies on the line night after night and deserve nothing but respect.
Dont get me wrong the product today is great but it will never be the attitude era.

 

[Trill Co$by]

1998-2000 was the greatest time to be a wrestling fan.

WWE has a lot of young viewers who don't know about the MNW.

I don't see what's the big deal is? If you don't want to watch it, simply don't.

For starters, 1998-2000 wasn't really that great of an era. Take it from a guy who was a kid during that time. Sure, it was neat back then but if you go back and watch the shows week in and week out, you'd see that the Attitude Era was nothing but middle fingers, constant Run-Ins, and women dressing like ****s except for Lita... though even she let her thong show.

Second if you think that's why Vince keeps releasing these DVDs, then you're seriously mistaken. If anything, the constant release of MNW DVDs, shows, and always bringing it up is a constant middle finger to Ted Turner. It's almost as if Vince is a Richard Sherman type deal, but because he's not of another race people aren't really going to go on twitter and say anything about it.

Personally, I agree with the OP of this thread. The MNW were good, when they were going on. And it was awesome when they released the first two or three DVDs that talked about it... But to continuously bring it up almost every six months is getting ridiculous. Not to mention, that if kids today really cared about seeing anything about the Attitude Era, WCW, or anything pre-John Cena then I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be hard for them to go to youtube or WWE Network.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

If you don't want to hear about the Monday Night Wars, the Montreal Screwjob, the WWE Network, WrestleMania or any wrestling topics in general, don't go on wrestling forums. Threads are easily avoidable and if you're sick of small sections of WWE programming in which they briefly talk about previous incidents as a way of advertising, go take a piss break. It's that simple.

 

[Rocky84]

How could you get tired of the monday night wars? I mean the unpredictability of every show is something that is not seen anymore.
During the attitude era these performers put their bodies on the line night after night and deserve nothing but respect.
Dont get me wrong the product today is great but it will never be the attitude era.

Exactly...the OP tends to make a lot of posts complaining about shit for some reason. You have to be crazy to get tired of something we don't even hear all THAT much about compared to a lot of other stuff. Making a thread complaining about hearing the WWE mention once and a while the greatest time period ever to be a wrestling fan...real good way to get negative attention I guess...prob feels it's better than no attention.

 

[Rocky84]

For starters, 1998-2000 wasn't really that great of an era. Take it from a guy who was a kid during that time. Sure, it was neat back then but if you go back and watch the shows week in and week out, you'd see that the Attitude Era was nothing but middle fingers, constant Run-Ins, and women dressing like ****s except for Lita... though even she let her thong show.

How old were you exactly? Maybe you were too much of a kid and couldn't appreciate it. From 1998-2002 I was 13-17...therefore it was reaaaaally appealing to me and everyone I was in school with. At that age seeing naked chicks (half naked on tv and naked when you looked them up on wrestling websites haha) the coolest catchphrases, gimmicks, constant ass kicking, beer drinking, cursing, blood everywhere, violence out the ass, NWO/DX, WCW vs WWF, ECW...fuckin awesome. Oh, backyard wrestling was blowing up lol. The best video games too haha (WCW vs NWO Revenge, WWF No Mercy). The wrestling world was huge in every way. Also, the IWC weren't a bunch of whiny bitches back then either.

I guess all that didn't appeal to you...I guess you prefer PG content, John Cena, Total Divas and complaining threads like this from emo wusses. Whatever floats your boat lol.

 

[WWFan79]

1998-2000 was the greatest time to be a wrestling fan.

96 was good and 97 was also great too.

I see where the OP's coming from. WWE is going the nostalgia route to 'hook' people in, because they know that was the most riveting time in the business.

It's also to get the newer generation, who were too young to fully comprehend what was going on to re-live it, and also hope that the energy from it can be transferred to the 'current product' for the younger and older fans (They've got to stop using corporate words like 'product' or 'universe'.. makes it seems faker than it is)

 

[justinept]

For starters, 1998-2000 wasn't really that great of an era. Take it from a guy who was a kid during that time. Sure, it was neat back then but if you go back and watch the shows week in and week out, you'd see that the Attitude Era was nothing but middle fingers, constant Run-Ins, and women dressing like ****s except for Lita... though even she let her thong show.

You've completely missed the point of what was great during the Monday Night Wars. It wasn't necessarily the TV-14 content. It wasn't the language, the vulgarity or even the half-naked women running around. What was great about the Monday Night Wars was that because the company was fighting for survival, the egos were checked at the door. It didn't matter if a guy did or didn't have 'the look.' It didn't matter if Vince McMahon thought someone could or couldn't be a star. The company simply couldn't afford to ignore the audiences reaction to anything. That's why this era was so great. So many stars came from the era because the WWE couldn't afford to ignore the reaction of anyone.

Someone mentioned on this thread that it was more fun because the IWC wasn't a bunch of "whiny bitches." Well, that's true - but the primary reason for it was because the IWC didn't have a whole lot to bitch about. The WWE was forced to listen to the fans during that era because there was a legitimate second option at that time. If you didn't like what the WWE was doing on TV, then it was a hell of a lot to easier to turn it off in favor of Nitro - nowadays, that really isn't the case. If you turn off Raw, then there isn't a viable second option for a pro wrestling fix.

 

[The Brain]

I think some are missing the point of the op. I don't think he's disputing how good wrestling was during this era. He's just tired of still hearing about it 15 years later. There have been a couple DVDs about it. There has been a Legends of Wrestling roundtable discussion about it. Multiple wrestlers have written about it in their books or talked about it during interviews. We know the story.

Real competition. Live show vs. taped show. Giving away results, Wrestlers jumping ship. Hall and Nash confusing fans. Hogan turns heel and starts the nwo. 83 consecutive weeks. Montreal. Tyson, Attitude. Austin vs. McMahon. DX invades. Goldberg. Bischoff challenges McMahon. Foley wins the title "that will put buts in the seats." Fingerpoke of Doom. The fall of WCW. Arquette. Russo. Vince buys the competition.

It's a good story. It's just one that's been told a million times. What is a new series going to tell us? I hate to say it but it's the same thing with the first WrestleMania. I watch anything mania related but the show on the network a couple weeks ago didn't tell me anything I haven't heard plenty of times before. I'm not really all that bothered by it but I get the op's point.

 

[Rocky84]

I think some are missing the point of the op. I don't think he's disputing how good wrestling was during this era. He's just tired of still hearing about it 15 years later. There have been a couple DVDs about it. There has been a Legends of Wrestling roundtable discussion about it. Multiple wrestlers have written about it in their books or talked about it during interviews. We know the story.

Real competition. Live show vs. taped show. Giving away results, Wrestlers jumping ship. Hall and Nash confusing fans. Hogan turns heel and starts the nwo. 83 consecutive weeks. Montreal. Tyson, Attitude. Austin vs. McMahon. DX invades. Goldberg. Bischoff challenges McMahon. Foley wins the title "that will put buts in the seats." Fingerpoke of Doom. The fall of WCW. Arquette. Russo. Vince buys the competition.

It's a good story. It's just one that's been told a million times. What is a new series going to tell us? I hate to say it but it's the same thing with the first WrestleMania. I watch anything mania related but the show on the network a couple weeks ago didn't tell me anything I haven't heard plenty of times before. I'm not really all that bothered by it but I get the op's point.

Frankly I don't think we hear it enough. As good as it was and compared to now...of course it's going to be praised. A DVD or 2 and 1 round table discussion that I'm sure not many people even saw is hardly what I call beating a dead horse bud.

There's a shit ton of stuff to be told about that era. I STILL am finding more and more things out about it. From articles and interviews with officials at the time to shoot videos with wrestlers from that era. There's so much that went on behind the scenes it's ridiculous.

I'm sure there will be new info revealed because it would be pointless and redundant to repeat the same things as the DVD. But again, aside from 1-2 DVD's and a round table discussion, what else is being done to annoy anyone? Something so once in a lifetime should be treated with more respect in my opinion.

 

[bioshock]

I'm one who watched thought it all too from the first episode of Raw and the first episode of Nitro. It was great, made each company better. But yeah its been done to death over the years. But I missed out on all the WWE on Demand, and WWE24/7 stuff so I'm still looking forward to the MNW stuff. It does at times get annoying when your hearing the same stuff said about it though. Like for example hearing about how Austin 3:16, Austin stunning Vince at MSG, and Foley winning the WWF championship on a taped Raw, hearing about those over and over again does get annoying. But those are the 3 biggest moments that get repeated the most within WWE, and are big subjects on many of the shows and events from Legends of Wrestling, to Rise and Fall of WCW, to the MNW dvd, to Austin dvd, the Bret/HBK dvd and so on.

 

[Cinnamon]

The funny thing is: the 1997-2002 period in WWE (basically the Attitude Era) was a time where WWE not only actively ignored their own history as a company, they routinely minimized it, mocked it, and shit on it. Outside of Wrestlemania video packages, history before 1997 didn't exist. It honestly upset me and worried me, and I feared that legends of the '80s and '90s would be forgotten.

Now, WWE can't stop jerking themselves off to their own history. We hear constantly about the Attitude Era, the Monday Night Wars, Hulkamania, etc. We have stars brought back because they can't build new ones. We have guys like Triple H wistfully talking about a bygone era where "GUYS WENT IN THERE, AND LEFT EVERYTHING IN THAT RING-AH!"

After 2005 (and the rise of Cena/Orton/Batista), WWE seemed to forget how to build new stars and create new history. CM Punk forced his way to the top, and seemed to create at least *something* of a new mindset among WWE brass (can anyone disagree that 2011-2014 has been far more entertaining then 2008-2011?), but even that has had limited success (look how slow they've been to run with Daniel Bryan; look at their missed opportunities to capitalize on guys like Dolph Ziggler, Alberto Del Rio, and Wade Barrett when they had momentum; look at how they still let their midcard titles languish, and how guys like Big E Langston get lost in the shuffle).

As a guy who, during the Attitude Era, worried that history would be forgotten and that legends would never get their proper last "run" or hurrah, I can honestly say: WWE, it's time to move on.